DIY Passive cooling with PIN Heatsinks SST120 and SST140

JorgeGonzales

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It almost sounds like you could introduce hot steam and get a thicker oxide layer before installing the COBs. I wonder though about the contact of the steel COB holder with the aluminum and with the presence of grow room humidity could cause galvanic corrosion? Seems like anodizing could be an extra precaution against this? Northern Grow Lights and others selling the pin heatsinks must be anodizing them for a reason... right?
They are anodizing for a very good reason, it increases the emissivity of the heat sink, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissivity#Emissivities_of_common_surfaces

Compare aluminum foil to anodized aluminum in that chart. It improves the cooling performance of passive heat sinks, and somebody who isn't me could tell you by how much. Anyway, it's a good thing.
 

PDX Joe

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They are anodizing for a very good reason, it increases the emissivity of the heat sink, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissivity#Emissivities_of_common_surfaces

Compare aluminum foil to anodized aluminum in that chart. It improves the cooling performance of passive heat sinks, and somebody who isn't me could tell you by how much. Anyway, it's a good thing.
Very interesting, thanks for the link. I found this short summary of anodized finishes. It appears that anodized aluminum has large emissivity benefits for passive cooling. But, with active cooling fans there is only a 4-8% gain in cooling effect by adding an anodized finish.

http://www.aavid.com/product-group/extrusions-na/anodize
 

Abiqua

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They are anodizing for a very good reason, it increases the emissivity of the heat sink, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissivity#Emissivities_of_common_surfaces

Compare aluminum foil to anodized aluminum in that chart. It improves the cooling performance of passive heat sinks, and somebody who isn't me could tell you by how much. Anyway, it's a good thing.
unfortunately I think the emmissivity increase is very minimal...however interesting...

Somebody {supra? sds? } has a few posts on this in the vault between 24-36 months ago :) ...

The emissivity part is correct and ALL thermal design should strive for as close to a blackbody correlation imho, unless someone wants to expand on that theory.......
 

JorgeGonzales

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unfortunately I think the emmissivity increase is very minimal...however interesting...

Somebody {supra? sds? } has a few posts on this in the vault between 24-36 months ago :) ...

The emissivity part is correct and ALL thermal design should strive for as close to a blackbody correlation imho, unless someone wants to expand on that theory.......
Like I said, I'm no expert but look at table 3 here: http://www.heatsinkcalculator.com/blog/the-importance-of-radiation-in-heat-sink-design/

That shows a ~20% difference in temperature from 141 to 168 degrees between the bare aluminum and anodized heat sinks.

"It is evident that the role of radiation for a heat sink cooled via natural convection is extremely important. Significant decreases in temperature can be achieved by simply modifying the heat sink surface by anodizing or painting to increase the value of the surface emissivity."
 

robincnn

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@The Dawg
My 140mm heatsink has thick pins so the extra 10mm height of pins helps a lot. Compared the old 140mm and the new 140mm, new 140mm was 2C cooler than the old 140mm.
Does not increase weight much and there is a good performance gain. The extra pin height helps the new 140mm run better at 2.1 amps.

Those Khatods on the new 140 is a great combo. Following your thread.
 

The Dawg

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@The Dawg
My 140mm heatsink has thick pins so the extra 10mm height of pins helps a lot. Compared the old 140mm and the new 140mm, new 140mm was 2C cooler than the old 140mm.
Does not increase weight much and there is a good performance gain. The extra pin height helps the new 140mm run better at 2.1 amps.

Those Khatods on the new 140 is a great combo. Following your thread.
 

Airwalker16

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Only black. Will take 6 weeks.
Alright.
It's just these PCBs I wanna mount I to pin sinks are 3"x4" or so and would be better on a sq I think. I don't know the diagonal length across them is though. 5" according to pythagoereum theorum. Would they fit on a 120 or 140mm round sink? They'll be 50watts.
I guess it'd be pretty close. Only leaves about a 1/4" on each corner to the edge of the circle.ChilLED-LED-Grow-Light-Engine-PCB-detail-1.jpg
 
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robincnn

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3x4 in will fit on 140mm.
With 120mm , 3.5mm of board will be out in corners. 3x4 is 5 diagonal and 5in is 127mm diameter
So 120 is good enough

Alright.
It's just these PCBs I wanna mount I to pin sinks are 3"x4" or so and would be better on a sq I think. I don't know the diagonal length across them is though. 5" according to pythagoereum theorum. Would they fit on a 120 or 140mm round sink? They'll be 50watts.
I guess it's be pretty close. Only leaves about a 1/4" on each corner to the edge of the circle.View attachment 3731652
 
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BST

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Test results at 750ma:
120mm 36C @1.2 lbs
140mm 34.2C @1.8 lbs
Profile 1 35C @2.8 lbs
Profile 2 41C @2.1 lbs

Free stuff for your next DIY
I have got some of these to give away free. USA shipping free, international $45 to $60 shipping
Do not get Free heatsinks and throw them in the corner. You will need to share pics of your DIY build.
REPLY in this thread or message me on RIU.

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1 or 2 set of Square Pin Heatsink
No drilling or tapping. You must drill and tap on your own
Good for upto 1750ma. Tell me how many you need. Please do not ask for more than 4.

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1 set of SST120 Heatsink for 3590 and Vero 29
Drilled and tapped for CREE 3590 and Vero 29
Good for upto 1400ma. Tell me how many you need. Please do not ask for more than 4.

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1 set of SST120 Heatsink for 3070
Drilled and tapped for CREE 3070
Good for upto 1400ma. Tell me how many you need. Please do not ask for more than 4.

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Also a pair of this profile i used in testing. Non Anodized Profile 2 Similar to 5.886" Heatsink USA but Serrated Heatsink 8" long 2.1 lbs

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Some Junction boxes
Junction box with only 4xPG9 cable glands and 4-5PG7 cable glands
Use your own driver, power wire, wagos and potentiometer.
Any more of those free sinks?
 

alesh

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Very interesting, thanks for the link. I found this short summary of anodized finishes. It appears that anodized aluminum has large emissivity benefits for passive cooling. But, with active cooling fans there is only a 4-8% gain in cooling effect by adding an anodized finish.

http://www.aavid.com/product-group/extrusions-na/anodize
It's very dependable on how thick the anodized layer is. A thick layer may perform worse than bare extruded alu when cooled actively.
 

RuRu.The.Half.Elf

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Hey @robincnn , I can't find a post about it so sorry if it has been asked.. But..

Which 100mm glass optic that matches the sst120? I found a few different sizes on the 'bay. Is it a 120mm base plate? 108mm? I could wait till they get here and use the digi-calipers but I am itching to spend some cash.
 

robincnn

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Hey @robincnn , I can't find a post about it so sorry if it has been asked.. But..

Which 100mm glass optic that matches the sst120? I found a few different sizes on the 'bay. Is it a 120mm base plate? 108mm? I could wait till they get here and use the digi-calipers but I am itching to spend some cash.
For 120mm heatsink the base plate is 120mm diameter.
112mm is the diagonal distance for mounting points on the 120mm heatsink.
Just updated this on website.
  • SST 120 is Pre drilled 100mm Glass lens and LEDiL Angelina Reflectors.
  • KB-HB100-80 100mm glass lens is compatible with all holders.
  • KB-HB100-120 degree glass lens is not compatible with most COB holders unless a spacer is added.
  • Glass Lens from different suppliers may not be same. Verify that the diagonal mounting positions are 112mm before buying the lens.
 
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