"First, It is used commercially as a PH down, it is also sold as a fish PH down. If it really did all those horrible things, then the fish would die. This negates your premise."
let me educate you; commercial ph down contains buffers. it doesnt do horrible things because it was manufactured in a lab by chemists before being mass produced, youv negated nothing. it is diluted if you could calculate the percentage and lethal dose of the substance youd have an argument but you cannot and you dont.
2nd: "blizzard of blarney comparing the lethal doses of Inhalation, mouse: LC50 = 5620 ppm/1H. Oral, rat: LD50 = 3310 mg/kg. Skin,
rabbit: LD50 = 1060 mg/kg."
this is irrelevant information your comparing the lethal oral dose of a rat! lets scale it for people since copy and pasting is all you seem to be able to do: 1kg rat lethal dose is 3310mg/kg, average human weight 68 kg or 150 lbs. 68 x 3310mg= 225000 mg orally consumed is the fatal dose for a human weighing 150lbs. really? that was your ace in the hole? id do the other calculations but i think you get the point. not to mention that was at concentration of 100% acetic acid.
now lets compare sulfuric acid which was at only 98% concentrate: Toxicological Data on Ingredients: Sulfuric acid: ORAL (LD50): Acute: 2140 mg/kg [Rat.]. VAPOR (LC50): Acute: 510 mg/m
2 hours [Rat]. 320 mg/m 2 hours [Mouse]
what this tells us is sulfuric acid at only 98% is 36% more lethal than acetic acid is at 100% concentrate.
sulfuric acid at 98% lethal dose= 2140mg/kg
acetic acid at 100% lethal dose = 3310 mg/kg
3rd "having used them both vinegar sucks, it adds things to the res that shouldnt be there" hmmm ya dont say? things like aerobic bacteria? trace minerals and nutrients?
"comparing sulfuric acid to vinegar is like comparing a RC car to a Porsche. They just aren't in the same league."
wow just wow i dont know where to start. oh wait actually i do know where to start. im going with things that dont belong in your res such as: an acid that reacts heavily with organic materials and metals as well:
Conditions of Instability:
Conditions to Avoid: Incompatible materials, excess heat, combustible material materials, organic materials, exposure to moist
air or water, oxidizers, amines, bases. Always add the acid to water, never the reverse.
Incompatibility with various substances:
Reactive with oxidizing agents, reducing agents, combustible materials, organic materials, metals, acids, alkalis, moisture.
Special Remarks on Reactivity:
Hygroscopic. Strong oxidizer. Reacts violently with water and alcohol especially when water is added to the product.
Incompatible (can react explosively or dangerously) with the following: ACETIC ACID, ACRYLIC ACID, AMMONIUM
HYDROXIDE, CRESOL, CUMENE, DICHLOROETHYL ETHER, ETHYLENE CYANOHYDRIN, ETHYLENEIMINE, NITRIC
ACID, 2-NITROPROPANE, PROPYLENE OXIDE, SULFOLANE, VINYLIDENE CHLORIDE, DIETHYLENE GLYCOL
MONOMETHYL ETHER, ETHYL ACETATE, ETHYLENE CYANOHYDRIN, ETHYLENE GLYCOL MONOETHYL ETHER
ACETATE, GLYOXAL, METHYL ETHYL KETONE, dehydrating agents, organic materials, moisture (water), Acetic anhydride,
Acetone, cyanohydrin, Acetone+nitric acid, Acetone + potassium dichromate, Acetonitrile, Acrolein, Acrylonitrile, Acrylonitrile
+water, Alcohols + hydrogen peroxide, ally compounds such as Allyl alcohol, and Allyl Chloride, 2-Aminoethanol, Ammonium
hydroxide, Ammonium triperchromate, Aniline, Bromate + metals, Bromine pentafluoride, n-Butyraldehyde, Carbides, Cesium
acetylene carbide, Chlorates, Cyclopentanone oxime, chlorinates, Chlorates + metals, Chlorine trifluoride, Chlorosulfonic
acid, 2-cyano-4-nitrobenzenediazonium hydrogen sulfate, Cuprous nitride, p-chloronitrobenzene, 1,5-Dinitronaphthlene +
sulfur, Diisobutylene, p-dimethylaminobenzaldehyde, 1,3-Diazidobenzene, Dimethylbenzylcarbinol + hydrogen peroxide,
Epichlorohydrin, Ethyl alcohol + hydrogen peroxide, Ethylene diamine, Ethylene glycol and other glycols, , Ethylenimine,
Fulminates, hydrogen peroxide, Hydrochloric acid, Hydrofluoric acid, Iodine heptafluoride, Indane + nitric acid, Iron, Isoprene,
Lithium silicide, Mercuric nitride, Mesityl oxide, Mercury nitride, Metals (powdered), Nitromethane, Nitric acid + glycerides,
p-Nitrotoluene, Pentasilver trihydroxydiaminophosphate, Perchlorates, Perchloric acid, Permanganates + benzene, 1-
Phenyl-2-methylpropyl alcohol + hydrogen peroxide, Phosphorus, Phosphorus isocyanate, Picrates, Potassium tert-butoxide,
Potassium chlorate, Potassium Permanganate and other permanganates, halogens, amines, Potassium Permanganate +
Potassium chloride, Potassium Permanganate + water, Propiolactone (beta)-, Pyridine, Rubidium aceteylene carbide, Silver
permanganate, Sodium, Sodium carbonate, sodium hydroxide, Steel, styrene monomer, toluene + nitric acid, Vinyl acetate,
Thalium (I) azidodithiocarbonate, Zinc chlorate, Zinc Iodide, azides, carbonates, cyanides, sulfides, sulfites, alkali hydrides,
carboxylic acid anhydrides, nitriles, olefinic organics, aqueous acids, cyclopentadiene, cyano-alcohols, metal acetylides,
Hydrogen gas is generated by the action of the acid on most metals (i.e. lead, copper, tin, zinc, aluminum, etc.). Concentrated
sulfuric acid oxidizes, dehydrates, or sulfonates most organic compounds.
not only that it is a known carcinogen in humans:
Chronic Effects on Humans:
CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: Classified 1 (Proven for human.) by IARC, + (Proven.) by OSHA.
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