DJ SHORT BLUEBERRY FROM SEED, FIRST TIME GROW!! (updated daily)

maxivenezuela

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I would recomend to prevent fungus and insect problems in very natural ways...
Search google for everything you find about watering plants with garlic and onion solutions, spray on plants with garlic and onion solutions, or even grow some garlic with your plants. All this will not alter the taste of your buds, just the smell in the closet.

For shure there are lots of other and some more common ways to prevent or fight insects and fungus, but I'm really excitet how garlic and onion solutions are working for me, I dind't get what I wanted here in Venezuela, so I've tried with this and I don't have problems at all, and it's really cheap and 100% natural...
If you prefer others buy blue and yellow insect traps, buy "neem oil" and stuff like this... don't use anything chemical!

Another thing you should do is try to keep the air humidity very low the last 4 weeks flowering to prevent mo and other fungus.
Plants need humidity to root and grow nice and healthy but when they have buds allready rather keep the air in the closet dry!
 

yoyoyojoe

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Mothers are looking really healthy and I have the clone dome going on right now. Worried a little bit about the nutrient burn, but just some curling leaves. Going to try to run 1/4 nutrient solution instead of 1/2
 

yoyoyojoe

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Mothers are looking real good right now.

I went ahead and cut 12 more clones, now I will have 20 of them hopefully rooting by january 1st. They should root earlier but it should be ok to leave them in there till around the 1st which would be about 25-30 days right?

Right now I have 8 in one dome and 12 in another dome. Would it be ok to put all of them in the same dome or should I not mix them considering I cut them at different times? Also I had to put one of the domes under my 600W , about 3 feet from the light, humiity between 85-95 and a temperature of 80. The new clones I took went under the flourecsents I have. Would love a suggestion if you think it is ok to leave one of the domes 3 feet from the 600 W?

I am planning on just going for a fat ass 20 pot SOG green with the ones that I have rooting now. I am going to make this my first flowering challenge, should be interesting.
 

maxivenezuela

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20 Plants sounds good to me a few more would still not be a problem but for the first time I guess it's just perfect you will learn to handle this nice.

I don't think you should mix different age clones^^

It's not a good idea to wait too long before potting clones in soil, specially not if you are rooting them in rockwool, they might start to get any deficiancy quite fast, and even more if they have pretty much light like from 600w hps couse they will start to grow even 3 feet away and just in the rockwool cubes.

Usually you pot clones into soil, and start to veg them, the moment when they have enough roots, not too eary and not too late.
 

yoyoyojoe

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20 Plants sounds good to me a few more would still not be a problem but for the first time I guess it's just perfect you will learn to handle this nice.

I don't think you should mix different age clones^^

It's not a good idea to wait too long before potting clones in soil, specially not if you are rooting them in rockwool, they might start to get any deficiancy quite fast, and even more if they have pretty much light like from 600w hps couse they will start to grow even 3 feet away and just in the rockwool cubes.

Usually you pot clones into soil, and start to veg them, the moment when they have enough roots, not too eary and not too late.

Nice Max, I have them under a flourescent actually, do you think they will be ok under there and not grow to much?

I am having some problmes with a few cutting and hopefully I have figured it out so I dont loose anymore. I do not plan to have different aged clones.

Do you think if I keep them in the dome from now till about the 4th of January they will be ok, and they will also be ready to go, or should I veg them for a couple of weeks before I grow them SOG? I just dont want them to get to bushy but after two weeks of vegging out of the dome they should still be fine right?
 

maxivenezuela

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I dont think its a good Idea to let them stay in the Dome that much time, not even under the flo's.
I would veg them at least 2 weeks rather more, you have enough light and room for this with 20 clones, and if they get a little bit more bushy you will harvest more, that's a good thing I guess^^
 

yoyoyojoe

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I dont think its a good Idea to let them stay in the Dome that much time, not even under the flo's.
I would veg them at least 2 weeks rather more, you have enough light and room for this with 20 clones, and if they get a little bit more bushy you will harvest more, that's a good thing I guess^^
What pot size should I use, cause if i veg them for 2 weeks can I still use the 6" pots I was going to use? or should I use 1 gallon pots
 

maxivenezuela

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Man don't use too small pots. Better too big than too small, if you are growing on soil, it works like a buffer for PH, Nuts, and Water, so as more soil than better.

1 Gallon for flowering is usually enough with just 2 weeks veging, but use the space you have in your closet and the light of your HPS, with just 1 gallon pots I would use 30-40 clones in square 1 gallon pots and veg them even less then 2 weeks...

How you are going to use about 20 clones for flowering at the same time, here are my recomendations for the best use of your closet and the 600W HPS:

After rooting the clones, you should veg them in minimum 1/2 a gallon pots, better a little bit bigger, for 2.5-3 weeks under a HPS or MH.

It's not good to veg plants in the same pots you will use for flowering later on, better transplant them before flowering, transplanting has lots of benefits for your plants and is just low stress.

Then you should transplant them for flowering into buckets like those:
http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=COGCS07HD&eq=&Tp=

This size from the link should be just fine. The Pots should have at least 1.5gallon more is good, less sounds too small for me and may result more easy in deficiancys or nut burns, and under- or overwatering issues.

I'm shure you can fit easily 20 or 25 pots of those in your closet and your reflector will give all the plants enough light.

Round pots are not good for a see of green, tall and square pots is what you need.
Round pots are fine for veging if you have enough space, for mothers if the pots are big enough, or for just a few plants flowering, but not if you are going for more and if you want the best use of your 600W and the space in your closet.
 

yoyoyojoe

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Man don't use too small pots. Better too big than too small, if you are growing on soil, it works like a buffer for PH, Nuts, and Water, so as more soil than better.

1 Gallon for flowering is usually enough with just 2 weeks veging, but use the space you have in your closet and the light of your HPS, with just 1 gallon pots I would use 30-40 clones in square 1 gallon pots and veg them even less then 2 weeks...

How you are going to use about 20 clones for flowering at the same time, here are my recomendations for the best use of your closet and the 600W HPS:

After rooting the clones, you should veg them in minimum 1/2 a gallon pots, better a little bit bigger, for 2.5-3 weeks under a HPS or MH.

It's not good to veg plants in the same pots you will use for flowering later on, better transplant them before flowering, transplanting has lots of benefits for your plants and is just low stress.

Then you should transplant them for flowering into buckets like those:
http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=COGCS07HD&eq=&Tp=

This size from the link should be just fine. The Pots should have at least 1.5gallon more is good, less sounds too small for me and may result more easy in deficiancys or nut burns, and under- or overwatering issues.

I'm shure you can fit easily 20 or 25 pots of those in your closet and your reflector will give all the plants enough light.

Round pots are not good for a see of green, tall and square pots is what you need.
Round pots are fine for veging if you have enough space, for mothers if the pots are big enough, or for just a few plants flowering, but not if you are going for more and if you want the best use of your 600W and the space in your closet.

Nice I will go ahead and use though square pots that you suggested. If I put them that close together are they going to grow as one big straight plant or are they going to bush out, because I wanted them just to be one big stem.
 

maxivenezuela

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Thats what a see of green is all about, lots of plants but just concetrating on the cola and a few extra nuggets from the high branches.

The branches close to the bottom you should just cut them off, they would not get enough light and they can bring you fungus and insect issues.
 

yoyoyojoe

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Thats what a see of green is all about, lots of plants but just concetrating on the cola and a few extra nuggets from the high branches.

The branches close to the bottom you should just cut them off, they would not get enough light and they can bring you fungus and insect issues.
It is the bottom 1/3 of the plant that I am supposed to cut off right?
And I dont have to do anything special to just have 1 cola correct?
 

maxivenezuela

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Yes about 1/3 from the bottom, the the upper branches will get enough light for some extra nuggets and will not 'couse any trouble...

For just one cola there's nothing to do, just let them grow^^
 

smokeygun

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yoyoyojoe

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Took 16 clones out of the dome and planted them in 2 gallons of Ocean Forest soil. Gave the about 1 liter each with some superthrive added. Next step is to jut hope that they continue to grow and root.

I am a little worried because they look a little droopy but I think that it has to do with the fact that they just got transplanted.

Going to leave the light on for 24 hours soo how it does..
 

yoyoyojoe

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Bad News,
I planted the clones a little bit to early and it looks like some of them are dying, this is a test grow before my big one so I will just flower as many as I can get going. Lookgs like about 10 are surviving but we shall wait and see.
 

maxivenezuela

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Just for you I took a look to the Foxfarm Website.

Maybe it was not to early, I guess you should still not have used this "Ocean Mix" this soil.
It is one of the bests options for later on, but akaif it is not made for recently rooted clones so it can nuteburn some of them.

The next time, better use small 0.5L-0,75L pots with a soil mix made for seedings(like Foxfarm Light Warrior® Agro-Ponic® Grow Medium) or just any soil for cactus before planting in medium size pots for veging with Ocean Mix and an later the big ones fot flowering, to avoid nute burn.

Anyway rockwool for rooting is very good for hydroponics, but not the best option if you are going to plant in soil, rather use Jiffy or go directly for this "Light Warrior® Agro-Ponic® Grow Medium" for rooting, clones will like it and if you have enough space in your dome to give them 0,5L pots with soil like this for rooting, you can transplant them in your pots for veging without any danger as soon as they have build enough roots.
 
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