DJ Short Blueberry

Mcoocoo said:

which breeder? I just grew out a Seedsman Blueberry Fem and it was temper mental about too much light intesity and didn't like to be over fed. Yours in the pic there is beautiful, nice job on her. What kind of lights are you running on her? which nutrients?

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I breed that bad girl. This run is in fox farm ocean forest soil and under 315w cmh with 3000k bulb.

I ran seedmans blueberry, hso sour blueberry, a few packs of dutch passions blueberry over the years and this cut has been better than any of those for bb terps.

I got crosses I made with this sato available, if interest send me a pm.

Mcoocoo said:

which breeder? I just grew out a Seedsman Blueberry Fem and it was temper mental about too much light intesity and didn't like to be over fed. Yours in the pic there is beautiful, nice job on her. What kind of lights are you running on her? which nutrients?

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Ive got one of those blueberry fem from seedsman too, and its gotta be the pickiest plant when it comes to nute/light intesity compared to anything else ive grown.....

Yes, I like that.

Mike Meier said:

How many weeks to flower DJ Short Blueberry. I am in six weeks since I flipped the switch to 12/12. I see mostly clear trichomes and some cloudy trichomes. It is supposed to finish in 8 weeks but I doubt that. I do want to flush for a week or ten days.

Please r espond ....peeps...

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Mine was 9 wks. Under hps. Miss that gal.

If there's ever a doubt, just go to 70 days 12/12. I would say after 30+ years of growing, that seems to be the magic number for 85% of the 100+ strains I've grown. Some were earlier, some were later- but that's my average.

City17 said:

Ive got one of those blueberry fem from seedsman too, and its gotta be the pickiest plant when it comes to nute/light intesity compared to anything else ive grown.....

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Yep, I was very frustrated growing that one, although the end product was spot on with quality. I actually had to lessen the light intensity and cut back on nutrients in mid bloom to get her to grow at a decent rate.

SSHZ said:

If there's ever a doubt, just go to 70 days 12/12. I would say after 30+ years of growing, that seems to be the magic number for 85% of the 100+ strains I've grown. Some were earlier, some were later- but that's my average.

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@SSHZ
This last harvest was at 70 days, and could have gone a bit longer on the G13 Haze but it will be ok with more clear than cloudy and should be an uplifting high.

9 weeks. Was one I had for about 4 yrs. & was a favorite to me & many others.
They say medium Yielder but you can easily get a # a plant off them with a decent pheno, 1.5-2 mo. Veg. / 600w SE, HPS. each.
I miss this strain & look for nice crosses these days.

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Mcoocoo said:

I have found that most breeders estimated flowering times are short by 2 weeks, I have yet to grow a strain that has not taken at least 10 weeks to flower and ripen properly

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Maybe its your lights or are you counting from day one of flip?

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Thundercat said:

Step one! FLOWERING TIME BEGINS WHEN THE PLANT STARTS FORMING FLOWERS!!! NOT when you switch to 12/12!

Plants don't instantly begin to flower when you switch the lights. It takes time for the plants to "transition" from veg to flower. This is a known biological fact. It can take anywhere from 5-7 days up to over 3 weeks, all depending on the grow environment, and the genetics and maturity of the plants.

If you actually count from when the plant starts to form flowers, then usually the breeder times are much closer. Sometimes you still have to wait an extra couple weeks, but that is because all plants/grows are different even from the same genetics.

I stopped counting time years ago. The plant will be finished when they are finished, not when anyone says they will be.

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Disagree.
The first day you hit that switch, the plant begins changes. Only once does it take to snap over to flower mode.
Its a total chemical balance switch.

hybridway2 said:

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Disagree.
The first day you hit that switch, the plant begins changes. Only once does it take to snap over to flower mode.
Its a total chemical balance switch.

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Udonno bro - how do clones go three days in the mail in total darkness and go right back into vegetative mode when given a veg lighting cycle without missing a beat or even throwing a pistil or funny growth?

OneHitDone said:

Udonno bro - how do clones go three days in the mail in total darkness and go right back into vegetative mode when given a veg lighting cycle without missing a beat or even throwing a pistil or funny growth?

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To be honest i never had any issues with this when ordering clones from Austria even when it had been a little colder outside. Everything worked out fine. Having those strains for years now.

For example a Blueberry too(Not sure if it´s a Dj Short though). Not the easiest one to grow but the taste is like the sweetest blueberries.
Just got a Dj Short Blueberry too.

OneHitDone said:

Udonno bro - how do clones go three days in the mail in total darkness and go right back into vegetative mode when given a veg lighting cycle without missing a beat or even throwing a pistil or funny growth?

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Good question. Thought fir sure it would've seized growth for 10-14 days while transitioning back. Plus it didnt start pre-flowering on you? Hu! Was a fresh clone, that may explain it.?
If i were to take clones 3 days into flower or even 2, they MonsterCrop on me.
Not saying that strain, she's fairly new, but my others.
Weird.

hybridway2 said:

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Disagree.
The first day you hit that switch, the plant begins changes. Only once does it take to snap over to flower mode.
Its a total chemical balance switch.

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Dude I’ve had plants stay in the dark for 3-4 days because of various issues over the years and then go back into veg no problem. Just like OHD said never skipping a beat.

Switching to 12/12 doesn’t just flip a switch in the plant to instantly create flowers. It is a progressive build up of hormone which causes the plant to finally begin to start flowering. That hormone builds during lights out and must build to a “tipping point” before the plant begins physically changing to flower production.

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Dude I’ve had plants stay in the dark for 3-4 days because of various issues over the years and then go back into veg no problem. Just like OHD said never skipping a beat.

Switching to 12/12 doesn’t just flip a switch in the plant to instantly create flowers. It is a progressive build up of hormone which causes the plant to finally begin to start flowering. That hormone builds during lights out and must build to a “tipping point” before the plant begins physically changing to flower production.

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Stretch starts on day one & 2. That is when the chemical ballance in that woman changes.
Being in dark for a few days, has happened to me NO PROB as well during light outages or i blew my house amps. Right back to vegging like you say. Mostly.
Reason is they need the first day or 2 in 12/12 to active fully. Just the dark backbto veg is nothing.
Go 3 days of flowering take clones, then lmk how you make out.
Its not gradual in a indoor enviornment with a solid 12/12.

hybridway2 said:

Stretch starts on day one & 2. That is when the chemical ballance in that woman changes.
Being in dark for a few days, has happened to me NO PROB as well during light outages or i blew my house amps. Right back to vegging like you say. Mostly.
Reason is they need the first day or 2 in 12/12 to active fully. Just the dark backbto veg is nothing.
Go 3 days of flowering take clones, then lmk how you make out.
Its not gradual in a indoor enviornment with a solid 12/12.

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Maybe from an older cut, but not even from cuts that are a couple yrs and definitely not seed plants. Onehit ^^ mentioned cuts that are shipped. Based on your theory, most cuts would start flowering from being shipped. That's not the case. And you can't monster crop from 3 day flip either brah, lol. It is a gradual build up of hormones. And it works the same to revert a plant back to veg as well, takes time.

macsnax said:

Maybe from an older cut, but not even from cuts that are a couple yrs and definitely not seed plants. Onehit ^^ mentioned cuts that are shipped. Based on your theory, most cuts would start flowering from being shipped. That's not the case. And you can't monster crop from 3 day flip either brah, lol. It is a gradual build up of hormones. And it works the same to revert a plant back to veg as well, takes time.

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Takes time to revert back & often at the high chance of a Monstered plant. Same happens with clones. Take forever to root, start flowering in cloner & grow slow ,awkward growth. Thats what i see 3 days in taking a clone.
Flower hormones are switched in the girl the first time the plant sees 12/12. Meaning our day 2 is the plants official day 1.
Remember i said 12 on / 12 off. Not a few days of darkness. Doing That though, will give one a nice jump start to flower.
Id imagine a few days of darkness would only slow growth for a Few days & would maintain its veggitive state.

Thundercat said:

Step one! FLOWERING TIME BEGINS WHEN THE PLANT STARTS FORMING FLOWERS!!! NOT when you switch to 12/12!

Plants don't instantly begin to flower when you switch the lights. It takes time for the plants to "transition" from veg to flower. This is a known biological fact. It can take anywhere from 5-7 days up to over 3 weeks, all depending on the grow environment, and the genetics and maturity of the plants.

If you actually count from when the plant starts to form flowers, then usually the breeder times are much closer. Sometimes you still have to wait an extra couple weeks, but that is because all plants/grows are different even from the same genetics.

I stopped counting time years ago. The plant will be finished when they are finished, not when anyone says they will be.

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Incorrect.
The standard is to start counting flower days from day of switch to 12/12.

pretty common knowledge really.

sure, lots of donkeys are saying otherwise, but just because someone says the sky is green doesnt make it right.

Craigson said:

Incorrect.
The standard is to start counting flower days from day of switch to 12/12.

pretty common knowledge really.

sure, lots of donkeys are saying otherwise, but just because someone says the sky is green doesnt make it right.

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Dude you can do you how ever you want. The standard that some stoners use is not based on biology. It’s only based on stoners being lazy and wanting one single day to count flower from.

Look into some botany. The “preflower” or “transition” period is very commonly understood. Some botanists lump it with veg some lump it with flower.

However flowering still doesn’t happen until the plant reaches the point where it begins to form flowers. If you actually pay attention to the details you will notice the consistency to the process. I’ve grow well past the 1000+ plant range over the last 14 years. I’ve grown seeds and clones I’ve tested genetics for seed companies and myself. I’ve seen how mature and immature plants respond to things.

Like I said you do you.

hybridway2 said:

Stretch starts on day one & 2. That is when the chemical ballance in that woman changes.
Being in dark for a few days, has happened to me NO PROB as well during light outages or i blew my house amps. Right back to vegging like you say. Mostly.
Reason is they need the first day or 2 in 12/12 to active fully. Just the dark backbto veg is nothing.
Go 3 days of flowering take clones, then lmk how you make out.
Its not gradual in a indoor enviornment with a solid 12/12.

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I’ve ran a solid 12/12 in my flower room for years man. My last room I was growing in for 6 years. Ive had plants go in and back out of the 12/12 room plenty of times. Unless the plant is physically showing signs of flower production then I’ve always had perfect success with them not trying to reveg or act weird. I’ve also taken clones off of seedlings that went into 12/12 3-4 days earlier to sex. The clones always root and veg just fine even with the seedling showing gender under 12/12.

I have some blackberry kush x DJ short blueberry going right now