Do 6 Week Strains Exist ?

Dr Gruber said:

First time i ran it i took some at 28, 35,and 45. I liked the 35 day version the best. For me the F35 is as done as dinner at 35 days.

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well if this don't sound like you harvesting at these times I don't know usually people don't harvest a few buds every few days on a plant when I take a plant its done not 17-10-0 days till done makes no sense but obviously I was confused cause you took some at 28 days some what buds? plants? sounds like plants cause not many people harvest just a few buds makes no sense maybe up in Canada but it's so cold up their nothing makes sense. lol

bluntmassa1 said:

well if this don't sound like you harvesting at these times I don't know usually people don't harvest a few buds every few days on a plant when I take a plant its done not 17-10-0 days till done makes no sense but obviously I was confused cause you took some at 28 days some what buds? plants? sounds like plants cause not many people harvest just a few buds makes no sense maybe up in Canada but it's so cold up their nothing makes sense. lol

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Damn bluntmassa! Not sure why you are dogging on Dr. Grubber. There was a reason he took early buds, to sample and see how it matures over time. I know other growers who have done just that, also growers who simply can't wait for whatever reason. Nonetheless Dr. Grubber does pretty thorough journals on many different sites. Better than most to be honest with you. While I got an issues with shelling out $100 for a bean, if you actually read the journals on many different sites, the plants can be rather stunning. I question some of Doc's reasons for such expensive beans and some of the genetics he offers, primarily making almost everything an s 1 or femmed, having sampled some of his wears from exchanges, I must say there is some fire in some of those beans.

Seems like your picking a fight for no reason, you are better than that.

TexasHank said:

I'm glad to hear you say that.. I've been preaching that for years.. I've gotten a WHOLE lot of shit for it too..

You told me once a while ago that you noticed more medicinal benefits with extra weeks of flower.. I tried it out and I have to agree 100% with you.. I'm not growing these days, but near the end there I was letting a plant or two run long for a nice medicinal stash.. that was one of many great pieces of advice I have nabbed from you in the past.

Good to see you around Gruber. I've always loved watching your grows and have much respect for both you and the Doc! Thanks for sharing your work with us all.

I LOVE the nod to the TPB with the F35 name... cracks me up!

When I jump back in the game.. Doc Greenthumb has me sold on at least 2 packs before I go anywhere else.. Sour Diesel and Chem #4.. I gotta try those before I even look anywhere else.

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bluntmassa1 said:

Well the other cannabinoids are almost non existent sure flavor is a big part but AK-47 tastes damn good and stronger Medicine Man (widow x afghan) had some great flavors didn't test it but we all know Widow can hit 20% Critical Mass will out yield most potency is at least what your freedom 35 and some good tasting ones and all 3 will take 1.5 weeks longer for any grower their is a better line whether cash, potency or flavor as doc says caramel not too intriguing imo. speed you may have if its actually finished I mean I can pull a Critical 10-11 days early and nobody will complain it will be dank I've pulled lower buds 1-2 weeks early and they still end up better then a lot of the commercial indoor.

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on a similar thought....

We pulled a few plants when amber trichs just started to show (like maybe 5%)...I'd almost swear the plants with just a few amber trichs were the strongest buds...we did this over several grows....
Anymore I'm not so confident that the conventional wisdom mandating 10%-25% amber is all that optimal....
also....we made hash outta lower buds that were almost 100% clear; it was pretty potent...so anymore I'm kinda confused on exactly whether its true "clear" trichs can't get someone high
Disclaimer: I've said the above with a lot of trepidation as nothing was done scientifically

JohnnySocko said:

on a similar thought....

We pulled a few plants when amber trichs just started to show (like maybe 5%)...I'd almost swear the plants with just a few amber trichs were the strongest buds...we did this over several grows....
Anymore I'm not so confident that the conventional wisdom mandating 10%-25% amber is all that optimal....
also....we made hash outta lower buds that were almost 100% clear; it was pretty potent...so anymore I'm kinda confused on exactly whether its true "clear" trichs can't get someone high
Disclaimer: I've said the above with a lot of trepidation as nothing was done scientifically

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I avoid amber as well. I find 20/80 clear/cloudy to be perfect

they contain the same ratio of cannabinoids for the most part through veg and flower, they produce until it clouds then it starts to degrade..clear trichs are filled with cannabinoids and make the most pristine hash

TonightYou said:

Damn bluntmassa! Not sure why you are dogging on Dr. Grubber. There was a reason he took early buds, to sample and see how it matures over time. I know other growers who have done just that, also growers who simply can't wait for whatever reason. Nonetheless Dr. Grubber does pretty thorough journals on many different sites. Better than most to be honest with you. While I got an issues with shelling out $100 for a bean, if you actually read the journals on many different sites, the plants can be rather stunning. I question some of Doc's reasons for such expensive beans and some of the genetics he offers, primarily making almost everything an s 1 or femmed, having sampled some of his wears from exchanges, I must say there is some fire in some of those beans.

Seems like your picking a fight for no reason, you are better than that.

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Its winter why not fuck with gruber? He's so easy and is either Doc or is madly in love with the Doc cause he enjoys swinging from doc's nuts and you say anything bad about his lover he will go to the end of the earth too honor his love but doc aint special you can get some fire from Nirvana.

Not to mention that crap he pulled with Rimmeo the guy had 3 ghost accounts selling seed for nevil I wanted pictures of the seed I got none was told the list was not nevil's work suggested it was a scam gruber and scarhole came to rimmeo's aid long story short scarhole came out with " You were right me and a few friends got ripped off" classic, so gruber tried to get me ripped off said Rimmeo was stand up fucking bum.

SCARHOLE said:

Hello Mr Blunt mamaster


you were right about Rimmeo
I vouched for him, an he burned me an about 10 friends the other day for a RKS line @tsd.
I for a few yrs I recieved every time, i thought we were friends?
an then he burns me & my guys.
WTF


I apologize man
Anyway you were right and I was wrong.


The only true knowlege is knowing you know nothing sometimes...

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Well I'm not familiar with that second allegation.

look I'm a bodhi fan, I'm not swinging from his nuts as you so eloquently put it I'd be thrilled to and hopefully one day will test his gear and be honest with the outcomes as I've seen dr. Grubber complete runs showing runts on occasion.

Like I said, I question green thumb genetics and methods used, and the price per bean is fucking stupid but it's his business. Yet I think Dr. Grubber has been positive in this community, something we should build up and not tear down.

i did laugh out loud at the winter comment.

eta someone needs to fix that early 2000 website he runs, and he could use a dose of humble pie as he can come off as a knob head at times with his flippant attitude with some I've seen on the boards. For Fucks sake, he's trying to sell beans, yet acts adversarial to doubters/those who question him

bluntmassa1 said:

well if this don't sound like you harvesting at these times I don't know usually people don't harvest a few buds every few days on a plant when I take a plant its done not 17-10-0 days till done makes no sense but obviously I was confused cause you took some at 28 days some what buds? plants? sounds like plants cause not many people harvest just a few buds makes no sense maybe up in Canada but it's so cold up their nothing makes sense. lol

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Plants never finish all at once. If you really wanted to harvest all mature buds, you would stagger (just like Tomatoes).

Anyway, totally unrelated to the F35 line, but a friend of mine has a plant that is completely finished @ 35 days. It's an Afghani Hybrid and he's a private breeder who has been working his genetics for quite some time. Is it amazing? Not really, but it is finished.

A fast budding plant is the last on my list of requirements.
Potency/Tolerance(build up)/Flavor/Smell/Bag Appeal/Yield/Flowering Time.

Everyone has different priorities, cash croppers would love 6 week strains.

And that's what it boils down to King. My buddy isn't a cash cropper, he has the cut around, but he doesn't run it. He has others that are better and only take an extra week or two.

I've seen some amazingly ugly bud (was a landrace sativa) that many would overlook for bag appeal at their loss.

I'm a potency guy through and through. I desire pain killing properties first and foremost. Everything else is a bonus.

I'm always reminded of the old saying: good things come to those who wait.

And of course another great one: The waiting is the hardest part

I too have had sativas that looked awful and were 10x better than pretty much anything you can find on the open market easily.

flowered a few different strain from clones years back and chops some in week 6, 7, 8 in flower (12/12)
there was such a different in yield and strength, could not believe it was from the same mother plant, just based on the average yield I pulled from chopping some at week 6, I gained 25% more yield on the plants I chopped at week 8 and the buds where a lot stronger

this was with skunk 1, critical mass and northern lights

all quick flowering strain but really needed the extra two weeks in flower

OGEvilgenius said:

I too have had sativas that looked awful and were 10x better than pretty much anything you can find on the open market easily.

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i dream of having, well one day I will but my Lil tent can't do a pure sativa justice (plus 16-20 weeks!?!?!?! I'd have two harvests in with my 10 weekers), a room in which I can grow some of Aces sativa and others.

Agreed on if ya can find it. The few I knew who fucked with them would have huge price tags, almost deserving, which broke it out with company. Fantastic mind fuck stuff, absolutely devoid of indica characteristics.

Hang your bulbs vertically. You can do a real sativa.

OGEvilgenius said:

Hang your bulbs vertically. You can do a real sativa.

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I really think heat will be an issue. growing in a tent inside of a closet is a tad challenging now in the summer. at a point I will need to run central air (luckily I have day during night so I'm home, and have a space to vent outside my room). With my new 600, I know it will be worse this year regardless of how hot and shitty summer gets. Plus I have a 6 foot clearance.

bluntmassa1 said:

Its winter why not fuck with gruber? He's so easy and is either Doc or is madly in love with the Doc cause he enjoys swinging from doc's nuts and you say anything bad about his lover he will go to the end of the earth too honor his love but doc aint special you can get some fire from Nirvana.

Not to mention that crap he pulled with Rimmeo the guy had 3 ghost accounts selling seed for nevil I wanted pictures of the seed I got none was told the list was not nevil's work suggested it was a scam gruber and scarhole came to rimmeo's aid long story short scarhole came out with " You were right me and a few friends got ripped off" classic, so gruber tried to get me ripped off said Rimmeo was stand up fucking bum.

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First of all, your attack was on me. I don't think anyone would stand for it so if that makes me "easy" then I guess i am.
But, can you stop lying for just a minute? Didnt think so......

Another example of your outright lies.
Go back and read the thread and stop putting words in my mouth. I said Rimmeo has seemed to be a stand up guy...."seemed". As in he was cool with me when i bought his seeds. I don't personally know him, i can just say that i received my beans and they seemed fine to me.
I will give you that in light of the recent evidence from Scarhole, you may have been somewhat correct about him. It seems he burned a few people in the end. But, it wasn't fake seeds as you suggested, it was just an outright money grab. Even a blind dart player will hit the bullseye sometimes.. but you only got close.

And so, you seem to know Doc isn't special...can you list the strains you've grown from him? Notice that was a question?...if you dont answer it then we can all draw our own conclusions.
Take a hint from Scarhole and just admit you were wrong....we all make mistakes but using lies to achieve your goals..well, it takes a special person to do that.
You will also notice in that thread that i really wanted to hear the truth but all you did was accuse without any evidence, and then go on the attack against me...sound familiar?.
If it wasn't for Scarhole the truth would not be known....

So, lets see.
You've been cought in a lie. When i put up evidence you attack the form and ignore the substance. And, you can never answer a question that will show you for what you are......
Please people...see this guy for what he is.

Gruber, first off thank you for saying that i appreciate it and i also appreciate you standing up for the genetics of the doc. i did ask you and so far everything you said would happen has nothing nonfactual or crazy ever came out of your mouth and i will be the one to say that u havent steered me wrong and have been very helpful in my grow. so no matter wat these idiots opinion of u is idc because in my book ur a helpful stand up guy that states the facts. i feel this way about my self as well and am completely honest about my grows and how they go. and for the the fact that me and u seem to have gone down similar roads with f35 i would have to say it cant be a coincidence so for someone to say we are lying or that we are the doc, well not my problem.
And as for bluntmassa1, go fuck your self. ur argument is a pointless ramble of bullshit if u dont like the plant or the doc go read a different grow journal. maybe ur jealous cause u dont seem to have any idk just my thoughts? until u grow them out ur self just shut the fuck up and stop making comments behind ur computer u annoying little fuck. how immature are u that u need to bring other peoples grow down because u dont like it. this is a site for GROWERS not no it all jackass's that need to keep there 2 cents to them selves. no one asked ur fucking opinion nor does anyone want to hear it.

Freedom35 said:

Gruber, first off thank you for saying that i appreciate it and i also appreciate you standing up for the genetics of the doc. i did ask you and so far everything you said would happen has nothing nonfactual or crazy ever came out of your mouth and i will be the one to say that u havent steered me wrong and have been very helpful in my grow. so no matter wat these idiots opinion of u is idc because in my book ur a helpful stand up guy that states the facts. i feel this way about my self as well and am completely honest about my grows and how they go. and for the the fact that me and u seem to have gone down similar roads with f35 i would have to say it cant be a coincidence so for someone to say we are lying or that we are the doc, well not my problem.
And as for bluntmassa1, go fuck your self. ur argument is a pointless ramble of bullshit if u dont like the plant or the doc go read a different grow journal. maybe ur jealous cause u dont seem to have any idk just my thoughts? until u grow them out ur self just shut the fuck up and stop making comments behind ur computer u annoying little fuck. how immature are u that u need to bring other peoples grow down because u dont like it. this is a site for GROWERS not no it all jackass's that need to keep there 2 cents to them selves. no one asked ur fucking opinion nor does anyone want to hear it.

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Now where is that "like" button when you need it?

TexasHank said:

I'm glad to hear you say that.. I've been preaching that for years.. I've gotten a WHOLE lot of shit for it too..

You told me once a while ago that you noticed more medicinal benefits with extra weeks of flower.. I tried it out and I have to agree 100% with you.. I'm not growing these days, but near the end there I was letting a plant or two run long for a nice medicinal stash.. that was one of many great pieces of advice I have nabbed from you in the past.

Good to see you around Gruber. I've always loved watching your grows and have much respect for both you and the Doc! Thanks for sharing your work with us all.

I LOVE the nod to the TPB with the F35 name... cracks me up!

When I jump back in the game.. Doc Greenthumb has me sold on at least 2 packs before I go anywhere else.. Sour Diesel and Chem #4.. I gotta try those before I even look anywhere else.

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Thanks!
Its strange how it works and i certainly dont have the answers, but it sure seems like a longer grow window increases the medical quality on a lot of strains. Or, at least it increases the the things i need in a strain.....but i cant say its 100% because on some it seems just the opposite.
Im starting to think that it might be that i like a shorter time frame for recreational and longer for pain relief.????

Anyway...i do appreciate your support and am glad i could be of some help to you.