Do bloom boosters make your bud taste like shit?

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jonnynobody

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i only used a bloom booster (koolbloom) on one grow. I had huge colas that produced my largest harvest ever. The buds all tasted like total shit. When a bowl was smoked it crackled, popped, and burned to a hard charcoal like ash that scorched the lungs. I truly hated smoking it. I also failed to perform any flush.

Are bloom boosters just a bad idea in general when it comes to flavor? I don't care if I get more weight if all I'm smoking is buds full of phosphorous and potassium that taste like shit and scorch my lungs.

I'm at week 5 of flower and am considering adding a bloom booster in moderation and completing a 10 day flush. I'm also considering not adding a bloom booster at all.
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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jonnynobody said:
i only used a bloom booster (koolbloom) on one grow. I had huge colas that produced my largest harvest ever. The buds all tasted like total shit. When a bowl was smoked it crackled, popped, and burned to a hard charcoal like ash that scorched the lungs. I truly hated smoking it. I also failed to perform any flush.

Are bloom boosters just a bad idea in general when it comes to flavor? I don't care if I get more weight if all I'm smoking is buds full of phosphorous and potassium that taste like shit and scorch my lungs.

I'm at week 5 of flower and am considering adding a bloom booster in moderation and completing a 10 day flush. I'm also considering not adding a bloom booster at all.
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Bloom booster is probably a waste now. You don’t have to flush but plain water with a little molasses for the beneficial microbes the last 10 days helps reduce the harshness and burn characteristics you describe. Personally I think the boosters are a waste of money. Better to pour on the light during the entire flowering phase.
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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The best bloom booster is mycchoriza in the medium. Buy Great White or Mykos. Use as directed from the start. Supplement as necessary. Mycchoriza is the main transport system for phosphorus from your medium into the roots. Investigate using beneficial microbes instead of chemical salts. You will have great roots and that’s key to good plant health and quality bud.
 
ANC

ANC

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Molasses and crushed biochar will round up the last nitrates and potassium.
You need to check your bloombooster's website for instructions.
Some will specify they need to be run in conjunction with something like Clear...
 
Hydrotech364

Hydrotech364

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If your using the product right then it enhances and increases taste/effect. I use GH Ripening and I get monsters. Beneficial bacteria only effect root health, not flavour.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Hydrotech364 said:
If your using the product right then it enhances and increases taste/effect. I use GH Ripening and I get monsters. Beneficial bacteria only effect root health, not flavour.
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COMPLETELY DISAGREE!

Grow with any synthetic and then grow with an organic soil and in a pure organic way......NO synthetic user will ever beat the taste and smells from any quality organic run.....That's all bio's at work in relation to the plant.
Organic's is a symbiotic relationship twixt the plant and the living soil....

I get monsters with NO "boosting"... Simply the proper nutrient changes at the proper times...... I do supplement with 2 sulfate compounds to increase terps and trichs (In small amounts of synthetic run plants).

This link will show a pure organic run GG#4......Water only soil, simple bio tea - once every 3 weeks......That's it! NO BOOSTERS!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/flip-day-for-the-gorilla-glue-4.988798/#post-14876363
 
Observe & Report

Observe & Report

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Dr. Who said:
Grow with any synthetic and then grow with an organic soil and in a pure organic way......NO synthetic user will ever beat the taste and smells from any quality organic run.....That's all bio's at work in relation to the plant.
Organic's is a symbiotic relationship twixt the plant and the living soil....
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I say synthetic produces better tasting and smelling Cannabis than organic.

How do we go about figuring out who is right?
 
Johnny Lawrence

Johnny Lawrence

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hotrodharley said:
The best bloom booster is mycchoriza in the medium. Buy Great White or Mykos. Use as directed from the start. Supplement as necessary. Mycchoriza is the main transport system for phosphorus from your medium into the roots. Investigate using beneficial microbes instead of chemical salts. You will have great roots and that’s key to good plant health and quality bud.
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Oh, ffs . . .
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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vertnugs said:
How is one "right" about an "opinion" though?
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I've disproven the whole flush thing so many times with people I know it's laughable.

We've done three blind test on the subject. It was very simple. Two of us did three plants each. Each plant was a different strain, but we grew the same ones. We each grew one White Widow, one AK47 and one Girl Scout Cookies. One of us flushed one plant at the end and secretly recorded which one it was, the other didn't flush anything at all.

So in the end we had 2 sets each of 3 different plants grown by 2 different people and only one of them was flushed. (It was my Girl Scout Cookies plant for the record.)

We then took two months to test them. Each person (there were 7) would smoke one bowl of a given plant each day and write a critique and state whether or not they feel it had been flushed.

Now here comes the funny part: over 90% of the reports stated that the sample they smoked was smooth, nice and had been flushed.

The reality was that only one person had been given one sample of the plant that was actually flushed...and he stated that it wasn't.

It's all bullshit. In blind tests, nobody can tell a damn thing. It's like most things on the internet: pure garbage.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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The biggest issue I see with bloom boosters is people using too many and too much. The more is better mentality ends up screwing up plenty of grows. The Marijuana Plant Problems section is full of people with all sorts of issues, burnt up leaves, stunted plants, etc... Usually they have a full lineup of twelve bottles. Then they focus on runoff pH and everything but the real problem which is dumping too much crap on their plants.
 
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jonnynobody

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hotrodharley said:
Bloom booster is probably a waste now. You don’t have to flush but plain water with a little molasses for the beneficial microbes the last 10 days helps reduce the harshness and burn characteristics you describe. Personally I think the boosters are a waste of money. Better to pour on the light during the entire flowering phase.
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I'm only at day 39. Plenty of time for a P & K boost. I've still got nearly 4 weeks.

hotrodharley said:
The best bloom booster is mycchoriza in the medium. Buy Great White or Mykos. Use as directed from the start. Supplement as necessary. Mycchoriza is the main transport system for phosphorus from your medium into the roots. Investigate using beneficial microbes instead of chemical salts. You will have great roots and that’s key to good plant health and quality bud.
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No doubt mycorrhizae rocks, but this is a passive hydroponic water to waste system not soil. P and K promote blooming regardless of medium.

Lucky Luke said:
Just wondering what shit takes like?
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Mostly chlorophyll, phosphorous, and potassium.

PhatNuggz said:
Once you get past the smell you've got it licked
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Nah, it was still very harsh.

Hydrotech364 said:
If your using the product right then it enhances and increases taste/effect. I use GH Ripening and I get monsters. Beneficial bacteria only effect root health, not flavour.
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I used GH Koolbloom and my buds tasted like shit and burned to a smoldering hard charcoal ash. I dried too quickly though by mistake and I think I locked a lot of chlorophyll into the bud causing harsh smoke. The crackling and popping I would attribute to an excess of P & K in the plant tissue.
Dr. Who said:
COMPLETELY DISAGREE!

Grow with any synthetic and then grow with an organic soil and in a pure organic way......NO synthetic user will ever beat the taste and smells from any quality organic run.....That's all bio's at work in relation to the plant.
Organic's is a symbiotic relationship twixt the plant and the living soil....

I get monsters with NO "boosting"... Simply the proper nutrient changes at the proper times...... I do supplement with 2 sulfate compounds to increase terps and trichs (In small amounts of synthetic run plants).

This link will show a pure organic run GG#4......Water only soil, simple bio tea - once every 3 weeks......That's it! NO BOOSTERS!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/flip-day-for-the-gorilla-glue-4.988798/#post-14876363
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Interesting. The best pot I've ever grown was in Fox Farm Ocean Forest with GH's Flora Trio and floralicous plus on a water, water, feed, water, water, feed regimen. The flavor and potency was incredible and it burned to a clean gray ash on all 5 grow cycles I used that regimen on. I think you're speaking from atop a soap box rather than a science based perspective. Also, organic growers add high P and K amendments to their compost teas routinely to boost P and K during flower to promote healthy blooms. You can call it a nutrient change at the proper time or you can call it a P and K boost - whatever floats your boat. The practice is utilized in both organic and non organic gardens.

Observe & Report said:
I say synthetic produces better tasting and smelling Cannabis than organic.

How do we go about figuring out who is right?
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Good growing practices are good growing practices. It doesn't matter whether it's an organic garden or not. There are plenty of shitty organic gardeners out there producing shitty organic bud. And there are plenty of shitty synthetic gardeners out there producing plenty of shitty synthetic bud. If you're using sound gardening practices you should produce a good product regardless of whether or not it's organic.

Johnny Lawrence said:
Bro, you're smoking phosphorous and potassium. Cause that's how plant biology works and stuff. You need to flush for 3 weeks next time. With Brawndo.
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Most likely. I've read from multiple credible sources that too much P and K can result in poor burning and tasting bud due to those elements remaining in the plant tissue after drying. Seems logical to me. Although I've never heard of anybody not giving nutrients for 3 weeks prior to harvest. 10 days seems reasonable to me to leech excess nutrients from the plant tissue.
 
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jonnynobody

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TacoMac said:
I've disproven the whole flush thing so many times with people I know it's laughable.

We've done three blind test on the subject. It was very simple. Two of us did three plants each. Each plant was a different strain, but we grew the same ones. We each grew one White Widow, one AK47 and one Girl Scout Cookies. One of us flushed one plant at the end and secretly recorded which one it was, the other didn't flush anything at all.

So in the end we had 2 sets each of 3 different plants grown by 2 different people and only one of them was flushed. (It was my Girl Scout Cookies plant for the record.)

We then took two months to test them. Each person (there were 7) would smoke one bowl of a given plant each day and write a critique and state whether or not they feel it had been flushed.

Now here comes the funny part: over 90% of the reports stated that the sample they smoked was smooth, nice and had been flushed.

The reality was that only one person had been given one sample of the plant that was actually flushed...and he stated that it wasn't.

It's all bullshit. In blind tests, nobody can tell a damn thing. It's like most things on the internet: pure garbage.
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Growing in soil with organic amendments and fertilizers is very different from growing in an inert medium with synthetic salt based fertilizers. Did you and your friend both grow in soil or hydro? We are discussing hydro here, not soil. They are very different mediums and require different approaches.


xtsho said:
The biggest issue I see with bloom boosters is people using too many and too much. The more is better mentality ends up screwing up plenty of grows. The Marijuana Plant Problems section is full of people with all sorts of issues, burnt up leaves, stunted plants, etc... Usually they have a full lineup of twelve bottles. Then they focus on runoff pH and everything but the real problem which is dumping too much crap on their plants.
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Agreed. It's the industry taking advantage of ignorant growers with more cash than knowledge. Every time I hear somebody praise Advanced Nutrients as the best I feel a small part of my soul die.
 
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