Nutty sKunK
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Must be all the flushed weed.
Do bloom boosters make your bud taste like shit?
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Renfro
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washing the roots for a week isn't ever gonna make those minerals that are already in the plant go away.
kingromano
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people dont like to hear truth
you act like a troll laughing at others opinion
i dont speak about articles
just facts i noticed by doing side by side
and i consider myself very finicky smoker
do you grow organic or hydro ?
kingromano
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yes it will
because plant will finish the remaining nutrients in the medium ..
if you go too far in the "flushing" yes you will starve the plant
Renfro
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Starving the plant doesn't make it shit out all the nutrients it has already taken in.
kingromano
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who talked about starving the plant ?
your plant must be lushy green when you harvest it no starved in any way
Nutty sKunK
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‘Must’ is a strong statement. It’s well known in the chilli community to stress them for better fruits.
I dare say some strains would react this way while others will hate it. Just like humans.
Put humans in a poor situation. Some will thrive others will die.
Stressing the plant within reason at the end of its cycle could be beneficial. Only way to know is to try it yourself.
Information and knowledge are two different things.
Information is gathered from others where as knowledge comes from experience.
kingromano
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yes man youre right
i use crop steering on my plants with great success
watering stress, light stress.. are tools is use with balance to steer my crop to generative* stage
however only difference between pot and vegetables is that the product is smoked thats why as a thin mouth i found giving water for some days at the end of cycle give a better finished product ...
and yes its another stress that force the plant to stress and produce as much terpenoids as fast as possible
but plant must never be starved
peace
i use crop steering on my plants with great success
watering stress, light stress.. are tools is use with balance to steer my crop to generative* stage
however only difference between pot and vegetables is that the product is smoked thats why as a thin mouth i found giving water for some days at the end of cycle give a better finished product ...
and yes its another stress that force the plant to stress and produce as much terpenoids as fast as possible
but plant must never be starved
peace
dangledo
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The same reason they tell you that you need boosters, simulators and apparently pgr's(extra
) that only a dumbass would fall forNice melt down btw
Par for the course
I see why you need to correct your fuck up so badly
those poor plants are straight nuked.
Pgr's.....smh...... Sad
Hook line sinker for the nutrient co
Thundercat
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You really aren't as well educated as you think you are.
So you flush the medium which doesn't remove ANYTHING from the plant. Then the plant finishes any trace nutrients from the medium and uses them to grow more buds. If you removed too much from the medium then the plant starts feeding off itself, and removes any leftover nutrients from old leaves and once again moves them to the buds to finish growing.
Please explain to me when/how flushing eliminates anything from being in the buds after you harvest them?
You seem to fail to understand that the plant isn't going to ever move Immobile elements back out of itself, and that the buds are the focus of the plants growth, so any nutrients its using will be directed towards bud growth.
Really I don't know why I bother to try to help you new guys. You've spent to much time reading cannabis grow books, and not enough time reading actual botany literature.
If your buds taste like shit, and burn like shit, then you grew them wrong or dried them wrong, it has nothing to do with not flushing.
kingromano
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yes you're right stay autosatisfied of yourself you are perfect never change anything
like on every forum there is the dude that grow 5 plants in his closet with the same tricks since 10 years and hate when people suggest things he do not do
thats why he insults everyone calling them ineducated and stupid
Thundercat
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Lmao dude, you've got me pegged all wrong. I'm always learning new things, and have grown well over a thousand plants in the last 13years. I've ran plenty of experiments and side by sides with identical plants in the same environment. I've had people blind taste my results. I'm not sure exactly how you can insult my growing when you've never smoked my weed? People rave about the taste and smell, and it all burns to a nice clean ash.
I don't hate people suggesting new things or ideas, new ideas are how we advance and learn.
I do however get tired of the same bro-science that has no basis in actual botany getting spread. You can obviously grow however you want dude, but there is a difference between your personal experience and actual botanical facts.
I don't claim to be an expert botanist, but I have done enough research to understand things like mobile vs immobile nutrients.
Also, I didn't call you uneducated or stupid, I said you weren't as well educated as you thought. There is a significant difference. Obviously, the confirmation bias is strong with you
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Renfro
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Now I know you are full of shit. In late flower you want to see some nitrogen deficiency IMO. Just a little and only late. That means the plant isn't getting too much nitrogen which makes for dark green bud that burns harsh.
kingromano
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ah man
its a good thing that you speak about that
during years i made my plants yellow at the end to have that nice autumn fade. i was sure that chlorophylle ( nitrogen, the green of leaves) was a bad thing
i was wrong i recently discovered that the best buds always comes from the less yellow plants
because the green in your leaves, when you hang your plant in the dark after harvest, will continue to work and plant will tranform it into sugar
i may be wrong in the precision of the processus, but its a fact
color of the ash has nothing to do with color of the plant
in fact you will even notice that the greener plants will produce the thinest and whitest ashes
because the chemistry would be respected
the culprit for dark shinny ashes are p and k, found in bloom nutrients or boosters
if there is some remaining in the medium at harvest, you will have it in your weed
nobody can feed perfectly especially in soil with organics, so its necessary to let the plant consume the remaining phosphorous and potassium before chop ..
kingromano
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next time take a plant in your garden and feed it with only tap water (ph'd if your in hydro) for the last week or 2 ( in soil)
your plant must have enough nitrogen stocked to stay green during that period, but will finish the nutes traces in your medium
and youll see my friend
your plant must have enough nitrogen stocked to stay green during that period, but will finish the nutes traces in your medium
and youll see my friend
kingromanoMember
lol kids using words like science and insults to prove to themselves they gro dank buds
and in reality they dont know anything about agronomy
make me laugh
QUOTEQUOTE="kingromano, post: 15044004, member: 981301"]you act like a troll laughing at others opinion[/QUOTE]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4027336/
Just because you choose to smoke this particular plant doesn't change the plants metabolism.
lol kids using words like science and insults to prove to themselves they gro dank buds
and in reality they dont know anything about agronomy
make me laugh
QUOTEQUOTE="kingromano, post: 15044004, member: 981301"]you act like a troll laughing at others opinion[/QUOTE]
You're right, its everybody else thats an ineducated troll.
Again heres some more facts about terpene and essential oil content for you to ignore.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4027336/
Just because you choose to smoke this particular plant doesn't change the plants metabolism.
kingromano
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You're right, its everybody else thats an ineducated troll.
Again heres some more facts about terpene and essential oil content for you to ignore.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4027336/
Just because you choose to smoke this particular plant doesn't change the plants metabolism.[/QUOTE]
not sure to understand what that study about other plants prove ? can you elaborate please
and im curious of what medium do you use to grow your buds?
Budzbuddha
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Simple answer ...
Budzbuddha
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I REALLY WASN’T going to jump into this bonfire but ....
You are clouded about some things .... late flowering doesn’t need as much Nitrogen since it is NOT ADDING new branches or foliage. The “ stored “ nitrogen in plant ( leaf ) are the “ RESERVES “ and will be consumed as plant ages. Older leaves will begin to fade and shed. The lower nitrogen will sustain the plants photosynthesis but does not to need to be overfed with it.
ONLY EXCEPTION : If you plan to reveg a plant .
ACTUALLY a high nitrogen excess in flower will make smaller buds as a symptom of N tox.
The whole god damn reason when harvesting is to completely ween the “ leftover chlorophyll “ to easily be burped off as bacteria consumes it during cure. Why hyperload a plant at harvest ?
I find a controlled wind down of feed and plain water gives me good smoke .
No fucking flush ... sugar loads ... root boils or other bullshit. When you “ flush “ you do nothing BUT LEACH THE MEDIUM ... not the plant. Even when you are watering to “ runoff “ you are actually leaching medium. Which sometimes adds to the plant problems since medium is now further diluted.
PK boosters are just fluff in most situations.... good genetics NEED NO HELP.
Maybe you like sparkly , popping bud ... not me.
mauricem00
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I use miracle bloom booster until the last 2 weeks of flowering and have seen an increase in yield with it and no bad taste.proper lighting is also important. I use tomato tone during veg and feed the soil molasses so I have beneficial microbes as well