Do breeders straight up bullshit us about harvest time or they just harvest under PERFECT conditions?

Eugenios

Eugenios

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Hey guys, I'm close to harvesting two autos in my 2x2. It's my second indoor grow and I've harvested 5 plants indoors so far. I'm still learning as I grow like most of us and my enviroment is not always perfect. For example, my humidity was never above 50% during seedling stage and my temps got as low as 16.6°C.

Barney's Farm claims that the strains I'm growing take 75 days from seed to harvest. One plant is 86days old and most hairs are still white and the other is 75days old and has ways to go until chop. It also happened in my 4x4 tent, where I harvested 4 autos around days 93-97.

Plants always take longer than breeder's estimations, even when grown from very experienced growers here, though. I sincerely believe that many of you have perfect conditions because I've spoken to you and know you but plants still take longer.

Opinions?

Thank you for your time.
 
Beehive

Beehive

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My current strain, 'planet hulk' can be harvested on day 54. That's if it wasn't stunted. Full throttle from seed. Any minor issue. Like the seed membrane sticking an extra two days. Translates in a plant that's a week behind the other.

As for seed slinger estimates. I guess they estimate it on their fastest growing pheno. Weight? They guess that off the best pheno too.

Then they list the best of the best numbers on the seed advertisement.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Most “ breeders “ will hype quick times as marketing crap or they have worked that strain “ in house “ under controlled conditions.

It is pretty much fact , that seeds run by you and another will differ - your grow environment / skill / medium , etc.
Always take a projected harvest time with a grain of salt .... they will take as long as it takes. Plants never really follow a growers weekly calendar .
 
Eugenios

Eugenios

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Beehive said:
My current strain, 'planet hulk' can be harvested on day 54. That's if it wasn't stunted. Full throttle from seed. Any minor issue. Like the seed membrane sticking an extra two days. Translates in a plant that's a week behind the other.

As for seed slinger estimates. I guess they estimate it on their fastest growing pheno. Weight? They guess that off the best pheno too.

Then they list the best of the best numbers on the seed advertisement.
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Good luck on your grow brother. That's super lame that they do that. It's so annoying.
 
Eugenios

Eugenios

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Budzbuddha said:
Most “ breeders “ will hype quick times as marketing crap or they have worked that strain “ in house “ under controlled conditions.

It is pretty much fact , that seeds run by you and another will differ - your grow environment / skill / medium , etc.
Always take a projected harvest time with a grain of salt .... they will take as long as it takes. Plants never really follow a growers weekly calendar .
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Agreed 100%. It's total bullshit. Spreading misinformation and lies.
 
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PizzaMan5000

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I think a lot is BS. Also I think some strains are ok to chop down early if you need to smoke... I also pushed a Kush for like 90 days, and kept chopping nugs off until it threw nanners. Just gave the lower popcorn time to get big after chopping the colas off. Probably doubled my yield, and I had nothing else to be pollinated by it, so it was fine if I was chucking pollen everywhere.

^^ Having the kush in my car would attract bees. They would sting my floor mats to death lol

I grow a little shaman, which is fast as hell. 45-49 day flower advertised. It's pretty mild. I cut down a tiny one when I was running dry, at day 37.... It felt twice as potent as the last three harvests at day 45-50. It had one seed per node too.
totally threw me off guard.
 
Eugenios

Eugenios

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PizzaMan5000 said:
I think a lot is BS. Also I think some strains are ok to chop down early if you need to smoke... I also pushed a Kush for like 90 days, and kept chopping nugs off until it threw nanners. Just gave the lower popcorn time to get big after chopping the colas off. Probably doubled my yield, and I had nothing else to be pollinated by it, so it was fine if I was chucking pollen everywhere.

^^ Having the kush in my car would attract bees. They would sting my floor mats to death lol

I grow a little shaman, which is fast as hell. 45-49 day flower advertised. It's pretty mild. I cut down a tiny one when I was running dry, at day 37.... It felt twice as potent as the last three harvests at day 45-50. It had one seed per node too.
totally threw me off guard.
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7 week flower? That's crazy!
 
spliffendz

spliffendz

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I think this is the reason that if you find a fast finishing pheno that gets you high, then it is important to clone and share. I still see people here saying that c99 finishes in 50/55 days from seed, (from seed I mean not a clone, not flowering time from seed)
 
Eugenios

Eugenios

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spliffendz said:
I think this is the reason that if you find a fast finishing pheno that gets you high, then it is important to clone and share. I still see people here saying that c99 finishes in 50/55 days from seed
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I'm going to grow photos for the first time after this 2x2 grow and c99 is one of the strains I will grow. C99, malawi, durban poison and panama. Since I've grown only autos, I really need to keep meditating to "improve" my patience because those 4 plants will take for ever lol.
 
Beehive

Beehive

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I never run out of weed. When a grow is harvested. I have a minimum of 5 jars from the previous grow. That gives enough time to where the next batch has cured over a month. With three being my personal go time to start using it.

I don't care a bunch about how long a plant takes to flower. I'd rather have a slower, higher weight strain. Verses a fast and light strain.

But it seems 'Speed' rules the advertising market when it comes to indica hybrids...or Autos. Rush, rush, rush...
 
xtsho

xtsho

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There are strains that do flower quite fast. In fact I have a cross I've been working with for a couple+ years that is extremely fast flowering at 7 - 8 weeks from flipping to 12/12.
 
Eugenios

Eugenios

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Beehive said:
I never run out of weed. When a grow is harvested. I have a minimum of 5 jars from the previous grow. That gives enough time to where the next batch has cured over a month. With three being my personal go time to start using it.

I don't care a bunch about how long a plant takes to flower. I'd rather have a slower, higher weight strain. Verses a fast and light strain.

But it seems 'Speed' rules the advertising market when it comes to indica hybrids...or Autos. Rush, rush, rush...
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I understand what you're saying. I don't even smoke that much. I will wait if I have to wait and I have never chopped early, never will. But growing an auto that's supposedly can be chopped around day 75 but in reality takes 100 fucking days, that's just ridiculous.
 
Eugenios

Eugenios

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xtsho said:
There are strains that do flower quite fast. In fact I have a cross I've been working with for a couple+ years that is extremely fast flowering at 7 - 8 weeks from flipping to 12/12.
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That's very fast. Congrats! Again, not in a hurry so I just have to be patient when I will grow my first photos.
 
HydroKid239

HydroKid239

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Eugenios said:
Hey guys, I'm close to harvesting two autos in my 2x2. It's my second indoor grow and I've harvested 5 plants indoors so far. I'm still learning as I grow like most of us and my enviroment is not always perfect. For example, my humidity was never above 50% during seedling stage and my temps got as low as 16.6°C.

Barney's Farm claims that the strains I'm growing take 75 days from seed to harvest. One plant is 86days old and most hairs are still white and the other is 75days old and has ways to go until chop. It also happened in my 4x4 tent, where I harvested 4 autos around days 93-97.

Plants always take longer than breeder's estimations, even when grown from very experienced growers here, though. I sincerely believe that many of you have perfect conditions because I've spoken to you and know you but plants still take longer.

Opinions?

Thank you for your time.
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I think a lot of ppl don't account for all the stress the plant gets hit with. We don't know everything about every strain, so it could be pinching leaves, or topping, even environmental conditions can not be optimal for the specific strain.. so growth slows, and an 8 weeker turns into a 10 weeker.

Other than that.. I also believe chop time is all preference. Breeder may label the flowering time to their personal standards for all we know.
 
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