Do fresh cut clones always wilt over to the side on you guys?

Hello all,

Every time I take a cutting, after about an hour, it wilts over to the side and the leaves wilt too. After a few days, it does start to come back, and within a week to ten days my clones are standing strong. My question is this: Does this happen to all of you? I have a friend who says his clones NEVER wilt. They always stand strong and look exactly the same as when they came off the plant.

In the end, my clones always live, but I just wonder if I am doing something different than some one else... I've NEVER had one stay standing straight up after I've taken the cutting. They always wilt, and then eventually grow toward the light and then root and then grow in to plants for me....

I'd like to hear what some of you have to say on the subject, so please reply. +rep to anyone with good ideas or thoughts as to why mine always wilt first...

Thanks all,
your friend and fellow DWC grower,
-S

not always, but a lot of times they do wilt on me as well.

Hey snutter- is that avatar dimebag D? Very nice man, best guitarist that ever lived. As far as the clones yes it happens, usually when humidity is too low or the medium dries out

superdave5 said:

Hey snutter- is that avatar dimebag D? Very nice man, best guitarist that ever lived. As far as the clones yes it happens, usually when humidity is too low or the medium dries out

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Hi superdave. Yeah, brother, that's dimebag. and i agree greatest metal guitar player that ever lived!! I met him once, and he was the nicest musician i've ever met. so down to earth, and very humble and super funny and fun to hang out with. we drank whiskey (black tooth's of course) and a bunch of beer at a bar together one night...the greatest night of my and my brother's lives (my brother was there too).

thanks for the replies!!!

Just started my 5th generation a few days ago. Out of 18 clones, there were 3-4 that wilted like that. Mine always survive too, but I'd like to know if there's something i could do different to stop them from doing that. I was guessing that some clones are just more vigorous than others, whether to to age(more mature branches), etc.....but that's only an uneducated guess, because sometimes the smaller ones are fine, and it's the bigger ones that wilt. Hmm....

Anybody know the real reason for the wilting? I'd like to prevent it completely if I knew what was causing it.

jawbrodt said:

Just started my 5th generation a few days ago. Out of 18 clones, there were 3-4 that wilted like that. Mine always survive too, but I'd like to know if there's something i could do different to stop them from doing that. I was guessing that some clones are just more vigorous than others, whether to to age(more mature branches), etc.....but that's only an uneducated guess, because sometimes the smaller ones are fine, and it's the bigger ones that wilt. Hmm....

Anybody know the real reason for the wilting? I'd like to prevent it completely if I knew what was causing it.

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The only time I get wilting is when I leave the lid off the old clone dome. For some reason when the humidity drops the plants wilt. I think because the plants dont have any roots yet they are absorbing moister through the leaves but as soon as the moister/humidity drys up they start to wilt just as a plant without water does (Im sure everyone here has seen a plant with out water start to lay over on its side). Thats my Educated guess! Hope everthing works out for you bro!

Are you cloning in dwc/aero if not why not?

Clones always do the looping at some point but the clones will bounce back.Get hold of a propagator and put the clones in for about the first week i keep the lid on and mist the clones and the inside of the lid with the vents closed.Sometimes the clones look like there a goner but that is why i like to do them in rockwool so i can see the roots.Once a clone has roots it will soon have new growth.Try not to over mist the plants though twice a day morning and night for the first week then keep the r~cube nice and damp not too wet.Then after the first week i like to just mist the inside of the lid the plants pull this moisture in any how.After about 12/14 days the clones should have a root system starting some will be doing alot better then others so take a few extra and take out the front runners and throw or give the others to friends.

Mine used to. Then I started giving them 5 hours of darkness right after cutting.

Now none of them wilt at all.


Giving the new cuttings 5 hours of dark helps protect them from shock.

Mine never do anymore but i dont take that many clones at once, maybe its because i take bigger clones now? Ive started using just a cup of coco and its 40% RH where i clone, clones wont wilt unless the coco dries completely. I go from 24hr veg to 24hr clone.

Xare said:

Mine used to. Then I started giving them 5 hours of darkness right after cutting.

Now none of them wilt at all.


Giving the new cuttings 5 hours of dark helps protect them from shock.

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Dude, that's so random that you said that. I hoped some one would say something like this. The first time I took clones i checked on them an hour later, and they were wilted over. so I said to hell with them, they're dead and turned off the light. I went back in about 4 hours later and they were all standing up straight as could be. I didn't understand why. I turned the light on and they did fine. They're veg'ing now in fact. Maybe I will try this again. I was a little worried about getting hermies from the darkness, but it sounds like that's not a problem. Thanks for replying dude!!!

-S

yeeea snutter your a lucky man. Damn dime darrell was the shit for sure. Seen a vid of him when he was like 16 the other day and he still ripped a guitar. Pantera is legend though. Anyways good luck with the clones. Keep that humidity up, mist those leaves, and keep your medium (rockwool or whatever) moist not wet

Oh as far as the darkness thing, you can mist the inside of a dixie cup and then cover the wilted clone, within hours it will be standing back up. Also its good to put your clones under the same light as the mother. For example if the mother was grown under floros then put your clones under floros. If it was grown under MH then put your clones under MH. By switching to different lights it can at times stunt your clones

superdave5 said:

yeeea snutter your a lucky man. Damn dime darrell was the shit for sure. Seen a vid of him when he was like 16 the other day and he still ripped a guitar. Pantera is legend though. Anyways good luck with the clones. Keep that humidity up, mist those leaves, and keep your medium (rockwool or whatever) moist not wet

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Yeah man, thanks for the advice. Like I said, my clones always live....I was just wondering what other people had to say about theirs wilting... I don't have a humidty meter inside my little cloner that I made, but I'd guess it to be 85% to 90% in there. Basically what I did was take the lid off of an Igloo Cooler and found a peice of glass that would fit over the top of it. It's just big enough to fit 3 clones at a time.

I fill the cooler with about 3 inches of lightly nuted and pH'd water (5.8 ). I use rooting gel, and I place my clones in rock wool, and put them in there on little stands that keep them outta the water, but will also allow the roots to reach the water once they break through. I usually let my roots grow out 4 to 7 inches before I transplant.

The cooler works pretty well actually. The inside of it is a very nice reflective white and once the glass is on top almost no air can get in or out. I place a 60W full spectrum light above it, and I'm good to go. The glass always has a bunch of water droplets clinging to it (that even drip on to the plants sometimes), so I can tell that it is very humid inside there. I mist the plants once, maybe twice a day, and re-wet the rock wool once, maybe twice at the most over the course of 10 to 14 days while they are rooting. The humidity keeps the rockwool at just the right moisture for the most part....Not too wet and not too dry.

That's all. One day I'll buy something better that is designed for cloning. But this works just fine for now. Like I said, my clones live and that's all that matters.

By the way, the 3 clones I took last night only wilted for about 3 hours and then started standing up. Today they are standing straight up and are loving life. That's the fastest I've seen yet. Awesome!! hehehe.

-S

superdave5 said:

Oh as far as the darkness thing, you can mist the inside of a dixie cup and then cover the wilted clone, within hours it will be standing back up. Also its good to put your clones under the same light as the mother. For example if the mother was grown under floros then put your clones under floros. If it was grown under MH then put your clones under MH. By switching to different lights it can at times stunt your clones

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That's interesting...I've never heard that before. Well, I veg under MH, and bloom under HPS. but, my clones always go under the 60W full spectrum bulb. I use this because it gets nice and warm. I keep my clones out of the veg room and in a different room for easy access. I haven't seen any stunting as of yet. My clones are usually ready to go in to a DWC reservoir within 10 to 14 days... Does that seem like a reasonable amount of time for rooting??? It does to me, but maybe it's faster for other people. I never gave it much thought.. Here's a pic of my most recent transplant. This one took 12 or 13 days to develop the roots that you can see in the picture...

-S
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i added a couple more pics for fun. and that isn't tin foil on top, it's a mylar tape. If you look close, in the last pic you can see my little igloo cooler with a clone in it that's ready for transplant. It already has long roots, so the glass is no longer needed on top to hold in humidity. Also, there's a MH light in this room that you can't see. Those lights that you can see are temporary...

10-12 days is fine. If you got roots no reason why they arent ready to rock. I do the same as well as far as growing from MH then onto HPS during flower. But I still get clones from a dispensary from time to time and they root em under floros so when I bring them back from the club and put them under my MH some will wilt even under the humidity dome. After having this same discussion with the guys at the dispensary and many grow shops most have said its due to the change in light. A plant is used to a certain spectrum and when you change that spectrum the plant has to adjust. Could be false but seems accurate. Just food for thought. Have a good day man and pics are lookin good

snutter said:

Hello all,

Every time I take a cutting, after about an hour, it wilts over to the side and the leaves wilt too. After a few days, it does start to come back, and within a week to ten days my clones are standing strong. My question is this: Does this happen to all of you? I have a friend who says his clones NEVER wilt. They always stand strong and look exactly the same as when they came off the plant.

In the end, my clones always live, but I just wonder if I am doing something different than some one else... I've NEVER had one stay standing straight up after I've taken the cutting. They always wilt, and then eventually grow toward the light and then root and then grow in to plants for me....

I'd like to hear what some of you have to say on the subject, so please reply. +rep to anyone with good ideas or thoughts as to why mine always wilt first...

Thanks all,
your friend and fellow DWC grower,
-S

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Took my first clones ever yesterday...they wilted and still are lol

Helltownhero said:

Took my first clones ever yesterday...they wilted and still are lol

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You can do it! Hope this helps.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/best-method-cloning.990583/

I just did a few clones, I place them right in a solo cup w/potting soil and keep them well watered for about 7 days, then they seem to take off and grow. I've only done 12 so far, but they all took. I did have 1 that drooped before, I just propped it up with a wooden skewer and it turned out fine. I take them after I water the plant, trim the large leaves in half, slice the bottom of the stem with a razor, dunk in water, then right in soil. I water everyday but make sure the bottom of the cups have plenty of drainage holes, I feel i'm over watering them but they seem to want it.

i took a bunch of clones today,some were wilting slightly,an hour after i had them under light with the dome on they were standing strong