do my leaves look ok ?

Nah he's not in UK he in EU he said scandanavia(cant spell). And wanted to ask u Doc u said sumptin bout juicing leaves, watcha mean by that like a wheat grass juice kinda thing? Or am I being a tard?

you really seem like your on the right track slipon. Keep On Keepin On Brother

dvs1038 said:

Nah he's not in UK he in EU he said scandanavia(cant spell). And wanted to ask u Doc u said sumptin bout juicing leaves, watcha mean by that like a wheat grass juice kinda thing? Or am I being a tard?

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Oh thanks man. And nope you're right on with the wheat grass juicer. I'm still using a power juicer and not getting as much of the juice as I should be.

kool .. I might look for a sipper like that .. velcro I just have some .. was thinking of just makeing it seald to the wall so I only have one entrance ..

actually I'm a lot father in my grow room design now ..

tryd to boil it down and make it easy .. and what I cam up with is 1 wall .. thats all ..

if I fit it in the corner I allready use ..
thats give me 3 seald walls and a entrence of 3 feet wher I need to use some kind of cover and sipper/velcro ..

the wall I will make will be made by stuff I can get for free at work

it will be a frame of 2x2" wood .. 6x8 feet and I cover it with a 3mm masonite on the out side .. will seal it all inside with silicone and cover it up .. either with maylor or some withe plastic ..

bottom fare coner I will make a intake ..
add a 3x1 foot perforatet plate with a net (200my) on the back side (all stanlesssteal)
so it will be hundrets of 3mm holes with fine net behind ..

outtake .. my local grow shop have a Axial Fan 125 mm. 185m3 and a Wilco Carbon filter 125mm for around 80$

damn it .. why cant I post pictures now ? "uploade" botton dont show ?


and no not in the UK .. scandinavia .. but I often buy stuff from the UK and Germany ..

been buzy to day


tok all measurement last night .. and stay late at work to day and cut it all (did only take like 20 minuts with the tools we got)




so Im ready to build my 3th wall and seal it up .. then go for a vent. next week when I get my pay check .. found another one .. full kit for less then 200$ might be that one ? lemesee if I can find some picturs of it ..

here is a pic. of the vent I have lookd at





may I add that all the stuff for the wall cost me ... 0$

will most likely build the wall/room doing this weekend .. Ill post up some pics when Im done ..

NICE MAN!!! That's what I'm talking about over here lol. Everything looks great, all the ideas sound great. I can't wait to see it finished.

That's pretty much what my veg room is, it's 4.5'x4.5'x7' and I've got a 4' black flood tray that all the plants sit on so that I can over water if I need to and drain it. And then I just framed in the opening with 2x2s, framed in a 4x4" square at the top left corner to hold my inline fan in place to exhaust the tent, and covered it with black/white poly with a zipper on both sides.

yea will need some plastic cover with zipper .. but things look good .. startet on the build yesterday ..

acctualy changes it a bit .. Im sure it will rock .. did cut it all at work .. but changes wont be that diffrent .. nothing I cant handel at home with a saw aso.

moved it to my bedroom .. now that I will have a good vent. and Im going to all the "trouble" I might as well do it right ..

as I only use my bedroom to sleep in, I wont realy loose any sq. feet so to speak .. and I can have visitors who dont know anything .. also since the room is kooler doing the day (only get morning sun) a lot of pluses ..

did just take the last 1m (3 feet) of the room, the wall will cover 3/4 .. entrance will be last 2-3 foot .. so room will be like 9x3 feet and like 7-8 in hight .. as I said .. might aswell do it right .. and now with all that "trouble" I might aswell go for a room to fit 4-6 plants with out any problems ..


will cover it all in the end with a huge wall to wall blanket ..

so you have to know its ther or have to enter my bedroom and look realy close to discover it ..
will be like secret room .. only thing you might notice will be the vent out .. tho I guess I allways could hang sumthing on the wall .. like a bookshell .. to cover that if I realy want it 99% hidden .. in take will be low .. behind my bed ..

well Ill post some pictures in time .. they will explain it much better ..

guess this thread have become my leave problems/fist grow/grow room build thread ..
but kind a funn .. and nice with some good advice .. safed me a lot of trouble ...

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Ah, your bedroom is much better idea as far as being inconspicuous. So you're going to have a 6x3 ft growing area basically? That's an awesome size are for a personal grow. You'll have enough to smoke, bake, eat, drink, hash, oil...whatever the hell you want lol. You'll be good.

So you're gonna use that light mover in there right? You could cover that whole 6x3 area with the 600w light. I put 12 plants in a 9x3, so you could get 8 in there real nice. With 8 plants in there and a 600w on a light mover, you'll get over a lb even if you don't kick ass on the first grow. And if you kick ass...up to 2 lbs easy. You could do that every 10 weeks if you veg somewhere else, or every 14 weeks or so if you veg in the same room.

I can't wait to see it done man, might even give me some ideas.

yea me either .. sitting here on the couch right now and want to continue/finish the build

but thers Denmark VS Brazil (soccer) on the telli ..

so have to wait till later .. will nomather what finish to day or tomorrow .. Ill post some pics ..



and it will be fairly big (tho one wall is 45' so sealing hight is like 4 foot in half the room and like 8 in the rest)

but I still think it will be atlest 15-18F3) floor space will be like 1x3 meters (3-9 feet) with give me like 1x2 meters (3x6 feet) for pots/plants ..

I reccon 4-8 for my 600W HPS ..

but that is`t a light mover .. Im sorry to say ..

its the ballast .. older one .. but high quality german one from a green house ..
got in reconditioned with brand new philips 92K lum 2100K bulb and new wireing aso.

got it for like 100-120$ or so I belive .. so coundt say no ..

but still .. 600W will give me enough for 4 larges plants or 6-8 smaller once Im sure ..

was also thinking of a veg room .. but maby to much .. tho I reccon a small 2" 2 tube t5 to atlest start them out on a table ..
just like 2 weeks or so before haverst .. so I have nice seedlings ready to go in and grow big ..

ok soccer match starts .. laters

hmmm .. Brazil 1 .. Denmark 0 .. might go and build soon

ok 2-0 thats it !!!!

ok done ..

well .. atlest as done as I can be .. missing a littel pice of masonite .. have to get a pice more at work on tuesday ..

and also still need to mount the pice of plywood (20 inchs down) at the top of the opening ..

boath for ventilation and to fit a cover/door or some kind ..

maybe use the rail I have now with the tick black cover ..
can make it like 90% air tight and then maybe have a plastic cover with a zipper behind .. taped to the walls to make it 100% air/light tight ..

but have to wait a bit since I dont have the vent yet (will get it in like a week or less)
and I dont want to mount it before I have the vent as I still need to drill a hole in the plywood for the outtake .. and Im also still useing the rail and cover at my curent grow "room" so have to wait a week or so ..

but now it is atlest 90% done ..

also need to siliconate it from the inside to make it air tight and then fit some white cover for reflexion ..
and of course fit the HPS in the ceiling and all them small things ..

but give me like a week or 10 days and Im sure Im ready .. and so will my plants going in to week 7 of Veg

here is some pictures:



note the pice missing down at the fare left coner .. will fit some more masonite tuesday ..





thinking about fill it and cover it with wallpaper ..
maybe even buy one of them chep white bookshells .. like 6 feet tall and wide enough to cover my entrance and a bit ..

then maybe make some hangers to mount on the wall or a rail of some kind .. so it works as a door ..

fit the intake so it use top shell and "plant" some fake books and stuff (glue em on

maybe even make it like in the movie if possible some how ? so you use a book to open it with .. just for the laugh of it ..




the plywood I will use in the top of the entrance to fit the intake and rail for the cover ..





a look in to the room ..




the entrance wher the plywood will be mountet in the top of it ..






air intake .. 3mm holes (3 feet wide 4 inchs high) will fit the 200 my net I have on the inside when I also silicone it all and cover it in white plastic ..


well I guess thats all ..

I know it is`t art .. well actualy it might be the right word for it
but it will do the job even tho it is`t 110% strait/in line (maybe its just me tho ? at work I'm used to measure in tenth of a millimeter) so I guess I do to much out of it when it comes to wood work ..

Ill post more when I have sumthing to update

just a few pics from to day ..







the FIM plant is really looking good .. leaves is pointing upwards .. especially in the morning .. also have a nice green color and is growing fast (all 12 shots) have to raise the fixture like every second day ..








the one I LST (note: just repot it agin yesterday so it is a bit droppy and I also untied it .. will let it root a bit before I begin to tie it up agin)




so now I have em boath in ther end pots (26 liters ... I belive sumthing like 7-8 gallon)
and is up to ½-1 strenges in nutrients .. room will be finish in a week or so ..

considering if I schould flower them in like 10 days or so (then they would be 48 days old from seed) or maybe FIM/Top/supercrop em and let em Veg for anoother 3 weeks or so ... so they go in to flowering at week 9

since I will have a big enough room for them 2 plants and the 600W HPS and a nice ventilation ..

hmmm .. what do "you" think ?

I think you already know what I think lol. I think if you can get those girls to branch out more and grow wider with more colas GO FOR IT! Lol. But you dont' want them to get more than 18" tall before you flower or they'll be around 3' after 2 weeks of 12/12.

They look good too, I'd go full strength at least.

I wouldn't FIM them again this late, but you could probably super-crop and get some of those lower branches to cut up and be colas as well.

The room is looking pretty sweet. I left a long post last night but it didn't stick apparently lol. You won't even know you're growing. I like it.

lol .. yea I know the feeling ..

made a long post with some pictures aso. the other day ..
but I did`t post it somehow ?? tho I found it as this pages do safe it wile you type (thanks God) so I could uploade it agin ..


and yea reason why I ask is that I wouldnt like to top em now .. and Im not sure about supercroping (never done it and look cruel )

but them side shots are realy growing up .. LSTing like hell .. but hard to keep it down ..

but I guess it is`t that importent once they are in the new room under a 600W HPS with plenty of space ..


and yea the room is close to how I want it .. just need them last few things to finish it, and then either a wall blanket or wall paper on ..

and I still need to find a zipper (seems like them you have is sumthing special for the US ??) cant find em here in EU it seems ?

so maybe I have to go with a dust cover door

sumthing like this



cost less then 10$ but also need some work as it is clear plastic .. but I guess I can handle it .. as long as it is air tight I can tape on some of the white/black plastic and I think I still want my tick black cotton cover on the rail up .. atlest untill I get a wall to wall blanket that can cover it all ..

lets see ..minor finishs ..

There's a good super-cropping thread in the newb section if you haven't seen it. I normally top right before flowering, but just recently tried out super-cropping because my colas haven't really been packing buds the way I want them too when I top right before flower. Here's a pic of my Wonder Woman right after I hooked her up. I think it's probably better to bend them closer to the top bud, but they had stretched out farther than I had wanted already and it actually worked to help the lower branched catch up, although I had to bend them a little the next day as well because I didn't do a good enough job.


In fact, I guess if you think about it, bending them is more like a tough love compare to cutting off the tops of the branches lol.

Search "tarp zip" or tarp zipper, that's what they're called in the US.

I've been super busy the last couple weeks but I'm gonna be harvesting some Blue Dream this week, and some OG Kush and Strawberry cough next week, I'll get some pics up. The Blue dream looks awesome. Or as awesome as it can considering I didn't even stake them lol.

I think I read somewhere that you should do what ever it is you want to do with em (topping/FIM/supercrop aso) atlest a week .. maybe 2 weeks before putting them in to flowering ..

I think the idea is to give em enough time to recover and get back to growing before you put em in to flowering ?

dunno ? just what I read some wher ..


I might try super croping then (on the FIM plant as it need it most )

will try to read that/some threads about it to day and get a better picture of it and see if it is sumthing for me ..

tho I was planing to "use" them 2 plants to try out diffrent stuff and find out what I like .. so why not ..



question: the FIM plant have 12 shoots .. 6 of them is all about same hight (at the top) other 6 is growing up and are close ..
schould I super crop (bend) all 12 ? or just the 6 witch is the highest once ?


question 2: as they are small in hight and is FIM/LST and to start with is indica they are .. hmmm how to explain it .. looking for the english word ..

(Ooh yea and let me use this to apologize for my english .. it is only my second languages and it is a long time since I was in school just ask if ther is sumthing I need to explain and thanks for all the help so fare)

well they are getting full of leaves so to speak if you know what I mean ..


let me post a pic.





not much light is getting down to the bottom leaves/shoots ..

schould I thin them out (remove some leaves) or just let it be ?

read somewher that the plant is useing its leaves for sun/food aso. so removeing them is`t the best idea ..

and some say it need air flow and the bottom shoots dont grow in to anything usefull anyway so might aswell remove em to give the top shoots all the effort ?

dunno ??



about the tarp zipper .. this is like crazy .. never tryd anything like this ... must be a American invention and must be like copyrightet ?

since I cant find it in any stores here in Europe ?? nothing .. zip .. zero .. nothing even close ??

when I search/google it I get a lot of hits .. but after going through 3-4 pages with like 20-30 suggestions (all amarican/canadian shops)

I have`t found anything ? tho I found out you can get em from between 8 and 12 $

so might just try and order it .. also since I think to remember sumthing about a minor limit for taxes ?
dunno just know that I had to pay tax and it did take a long time .. once I orderd a special excust for my 500 ccm bike ..


lets see ..


and let me know how the Blue Dream turns out (picturs would be kool) I have been thinking of trying them out in the future/next grow .. look/sounds awsome ..

just a littel update from to day:






used a littel cardbord to cover it all up untill I get the last pice of masonite ..
did also fit the playwood just not fixd it yet as I have to drill a 4" hole for the vent. once I get it next week ..
will also fit the cover under the playwood on a rail and on the back side Ill seal it with plastic ..






did fit the 200 my net on the intake .. so no bugs can get in .. I hope ..







drill 4 holes and mounted the HPS in there as well as 2 holes for the vent./filter .










desided just to continue to LST them insted of super crop em ..
as the small side shoots on the shoots have begon to grow up .. acctualy to day I swear they grew like ½ a inch ..
so I just LST them realy well to give them space and light to grow up them small once ..

and some more in case anybody still watching ?


did finish it to day .. more or less .. only need the ventilation (get it in 2 days)



finish the out take and rail for the cover so its ready for the ventilation and cover ..



made a intake "box" to shild the plants from out side light ..



only open in the fare end .. so light cant leake and so the intake air will go through the room passed the plants ..




did also fit some white/black plastic .. got some from work .. but a small role ..

and damn it !!!
you would think them who designed it was taking the piss of you .. realy .. made so it dont stick at all to anything but it self !!!!

pretty anoying when you try to put it up







not pretty .. but pretty happy with it

did also use silicone inside and white silicone rubber outside (2 of each ) so it schould be 110% air/light tight


Ooh yea and plants from to day ..

the FIM is so sick now .. so many shoots



can hardly fit it under the 6 T5 tubes so cant wait to get it in under my 600W HPS

and do smell a lot more now .. so Im glad I did take your advice Doctor .. in 3 days or so they will be in the room ..

the LST is also comming on fine .. but not as many shoots .. but I guess its ok since it still have its main shoot ..



ps.

exatly day 40 to day from seed came up the ground