Do normal people use the term "monkey it up"?

MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Herb & Suds said:
Simple solution go to a grow site you like and are liked BYE BYE
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I like it here and get along with everyone but a few hysterical extremists.

They don’t matter.

If I get banned from the whole site for making these jerks upset in here I have plenty of friends elsewhere too.

I liked you in the Grow threads. But look at you now. Can’t even keep your politics where they belong.

Politics would never be on a weed site that can make it without an agenda filled sponsor.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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gwheels said:
Throw a monkey wrench into the plans

Monkey it up

These are all just words. It is a saying. It is stupid to think this was a racial slur.

But hey why let common sense get in the way of good rant. You might throw a monkey wrench into it...or monkey it up. If you are not the creature they reference then why would it bother you to rise above it.

Stupid or what.
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You are monkeying up their attack plan. :-)
 
Fogdog

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gwheels said:
Throw a monkey wrench into the plans

Monkey it up

These are all just words. It is a saying. It is stupid to think this was a racial slur.

But hey why let common sense get in the way of good rant. You might throw a monkey wrench into it...or monkey it up. If you are not the creature they reference then why would it bother you to rise above it.

Stupid or what.
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Context matters. It's obvious in his speech that he was race baiting. For starters, a Florida white right wing politician using the term in a speech against his black opponent. I don't think race baiting is going to win the election for him but it will lock in a significant share of Florida's voters.
 
Buddha2525

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Fogdog said:
Nope our differences are huge.

You are a racist tool of the alt.right

I am not.
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You think some people's subjective experience to the same stimulus, like that of a black man and a white man are more traumatic on one than the other,. stemming from race alone on this lefty myth called systematic racism and a boogey man you call white privilege. That's very unscientific delusional theory called Solipsism based upon the feelings you get from perceived wrongs everyone goes through but you think only happen to you and those like you, not anyone else.

I say that's not true, we're all humans. To me your racial politics makes you the racist. And it's worse than what the actual white supremacists do because they admit they consider themselves superior. While you have a messiah complex the racist garbage you spew makes the world a better place. If that were the case people would realize the truth of your religion and flock to it, but Trump becoming president proves your theory wrong.

Here's the straight fact, you're both wrong, the white supremacists and your fellow racial justice warriors.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Buddha2525 said:
You think some people's subjective experience to the same stimulus, like that of a black man and a white man are more traumatic on one than the other,. stemming from race alone on this lefty myth called systematic racism and a boogey man you call white privilege. That's very unscientific delusional theory called Solipsism based upon the feelings you get from perceived wrongs everyone goes through but you think only happen to you and those like you, not anyone else.

I say that's not true, we're all humans. To me your racial politics makes you the racist. And it's worse than what the actual white supremacists do because they admit they consider themselves superior. While you have a messiah complex the racist garbage you spew makes the world a better place. If that were the case people would realize the truth of your religion and flock to it, but Trump becoming president proves your theory wrong.

Here's the straight fact, you're both wrong, the white supremacists and your fellow racial justice warriors.
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Again, you fall back on logical fallacies more commonly known as a bad argument. This time, it's the one called the strawman argument.

Straw man fallacies are a cheap and easy way to make one’s position look stronger than it is. Using this fallacy, opposing views are characterized as “non-starters,” lifeless, truthless, and wholly unreliable. By comparison, one’s own position will look better for it. You can imagine how straw man fallacies and ad hominems can occur together, demonizing opponents and discrediting their views.

Your post begins with a claim that you know what I think. You do not. The one truth we can all hang on to is that it is impossible to know what somebody else is thinking. We can know what they do or what they say but cannot know what a person thinks. Though some new age religions might say so, reading minds is impossible. After that, the rest of your post, which hinges on you "knowing what I think" is nonsense.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Fogdog said:
Again, you fall back on logical fallacies more commonly known as a bad argument. This time, it's the one called the strawman argument.

Straw man fallacies are a cheap and easy way to make one’s position look stronger than it is. Using this fallacy, opposing views are characterized as “non-starters,” lifeless, truthless, and wholly unreliable. By comparison, one’s own position will look better for it. You can imagine how straw man fallacies and ad hominems can occur together, demonizing opponents and discrediting their views.

Your post begins with a claim that you know what I think. You do not. The one truth we can all hang on to is that it is impossible to know what somebody else is thinking. We can know what they do or what they say but cannot know what a person thinks. Though some new age religions might say so, reading minds is impossible. After that, the rest of your post, which hinges on you "knowing what I think" is nonsense.
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You prove yourself to be a bigger hypocrite every post.
 
Buddha2525

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Fogdog said:
Again, you fall back on logical fallacies more commonly known as a bad argument. This time, it's the one called the strawman argument.

Straw man fallacies are a cheap and easy way to make one’s position look stronger than it is. Using this fallacy, opposing views are characterized as “non-starters,” lifeless, truthless, and wholly unreliable. By comparison, one’s own position will look better for it. You can imagine how straw man fallacies and ad hominems can occur together, demonizing opponents and discrediting their views.

Your post begins with a claim that you know what I think. You do not. The one truth we can all hang on to is that it is impossible to know what somebody else is thinking. We can know what they do or what they say but cannot know what a person thinks. Though some new age religions might say so, reading minds is impossible. After that, the rest of your post, which hinges on you "knowing what I think" is nonsense.
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I do know how you think. You said white privilege is real. But that's a lie. It's a racist alt-left conspiracy where white people won(or did they lose because they're the white devil, and who wants to be the devil?) some sort of genetic oppressor lottery and should feel horrible for something they were born with not in their control. You can't change your race. Or do you concede no such magical white opressor gene exists?
 
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relaxinginUSA

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Fogdog said:
mmm No

Not even close to the same context or meaning.

That Florida Republicans have so quickly gone to race baiting in the governor's race just shows how desperate they are. I thought Gillum was going to lose on policy. By reaching for the race card as soon as they could, Republicans are showing that they are afraid of facing Gillum on real issues. Their actions are making me have second thoughts on the potential of Gillum winning so long as he runs on policy and not race. Round one goes to Gillum.
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Well, nobody has to take your word for it, fortunately. Where are the guidelines as to when a politician, or anyone for that matter can say "monkey it up", "monkeyed around", or similar language incorporating the word monkey? If Gillum happened to be white would it no longer be racist? Seems like the general usage of it refers to messing around with something, goofing something up, doing something not very bright, etc. But that's cool you can read the minds of everyone who uses it in the manner it was intended . . . and determine whether this generally accepted term is racist. That's helpful.
 
Fogdog

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relaxinginUSA said:
Well, nobody has to take your word for it, fortunately. Where are the guidelines as to when a politician, or anyone for that matter can say "monkey it up", "monkeyed around", or similar language incorporating the word monkey? If Gillum happened to be white would it no longer be racist? Seems like the general usage of it refers to messing around with something, goofing something up, doing something not very bright, etc. But that's cool you can read the minds of everyone who uses it in the manner it was intended . . . and determine whether this generally accepted term is racist. That's helpful.
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Yes, I can see why right wingers want to deny that the statement by DeSantis was race baiting. It was though. Nobody in Florida is saying it was not.
 
Fogdog

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Buddha2525 said:
I do know how you think. You said white privilege is real. But that's a lie. It's a racist alt-left conspiracy where white people won(or did they lose because they're the white devil, and who wants to be the devil?) some sort of genetic oppressor lottery and should feel horrible for something they were born with not in their control. You can't change your race. Or do you concede no such magical white opressor gene exists?
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Yes, white privilege in the US exists. It is true that about 60% of white people deny it. The vast majority of people most affected by it don't.

One of the best monologues on the subject is here:


If you can't stand to laugh at ridiculous things Republcians say on the subject, skip to 8 minutes. I don't submit this as proof but Jon explains why you are an ass quite well.
 
UncleBuck

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relaxinginUSA said:
Well, nobody has to take your word for it, fortunately. Where are the guidelines as to when a politician, or anyone for that matter can say "monkey it up", "monkeyed around", or similar language incorporating the word monkey? If Gillum happened to be white would it no longer be racist? Seems like the general usage of it refers to messing around with something, goofing something up, doing something not very bright, etc. But that's cool you can read the minds of everyone who uses it in the manner it was intended . . . and determine whether this generally accepted term is racist. That's helpful.
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No one likes you
 
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relaxinginUSA

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Fogdog said:
Yes, I can see why right wingers want to deny that the statement by DeSantis was race baiting. It was though. Nobody in Florida is saying it was not.
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No it wasn't. You talked to everyone in Florida? Got a citation for "Nobody in Florida is saying it was not"? Thanks. Care to provide a response to my questions? That's the topic of the thread. Fortunately, you're not a mind reader and don't get to judge whether it was racist.
 
UncleBuck

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relaxinginUSA said:
No it wasn't. You talked to everyone in Florida? Got a citation for "Nobody in Florida is saying it was not"? Thanks. Care to provide a response to my questions? That's the topic of the thread. Fortunately, you're not a mind reader and don't get to judge whether it was racist.
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It was clearly racist
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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relaxinginUSA said:
No it wasn't. You talked to everyone in Florida? Got a citation for "Nobody in Florida is saying it was not"? Thanks. Care to provide a response to my questions? That's the topic of the thread. Fortunately, you're not a mind reader and don't get to judge whether it was racist.
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LOL

Google race history in Florida

Context matters derp
 
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