Do not smoke marijuana in excess, It can cause cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome

I've suffered with stomach problems for years. I use to wake up at 5am in the morning and guzzle ant-acid bottles but even that didn't help. It came and went in cycles and one time i went from about 80kg to 70kg. I had an endoscopy and tried medications but no one could ever cure it effectively or diagnose what I had.
I noticed the connection though between having a smokers cough and feeling sick in the morning.

Then I got a digital volcano. I bought it so I could have guilt free smoking (no lung damage or tar, carbon monoxide, etc) and didn't have a single thought that it would help my morning sickness- but it has. I've gone 100% over to vapor for something like a year now and just as my lungs feel much better I also don't get morning sick anymore.

I use to wake up in the morning and cough like I had a flu but now I breath clearly and never wake up feeling sick. I do get a little bit of heart burn feeling once in a while, but so does my dad and he never smokes weed. My conclusion about my own experience is that the tar and other effects of burning and inhaling cannabis inflamed my G.O.R.D condition.

I can't speak for everyone but when people are talking about 'cannabis causes morning sickness'- they may be talking about smoking cannabis is making them sick, not the chemical compounds which can be vaped or swallowed.

i suppose chronic use could have side effects in certain people, it just seems your a bit too adament about this, you said youve never been diagnosed yet and shoot everything else down. seems that you just came on here to say weed has negative side effects...but thats why there are 2 threads like this with the same responses. btw chlorophyl irritates the intestines and causes nausea

You're right that I was never officially diagnosed. But I think that has to do with the relatively new discovery of the disorder. Hell, these medical studies admit that they don't know exactly what causes the vomiting. You could be right about chlorophyll being the culprit. I really don't know. All I know is that since I've stopped smoking, I've gotten better. I've been tested for everything known to man, I've changed my diet, and I cut out everything like caffeine that would even remotely seen to be the cause, but none of it worked. I'm adamant because I'm certain that smoking pot was the way I did was causing my problems.

You can bet your bottom dollar that I haven't smoked my last bud. I'll try vaping in the future, but I'll also smoke a lot less. For now, I'm gonna give myself a few months to totally clean everything out. After that, though, it's game on. I think I just need to take it easy on the stuff. If the vomiting comes back though, I'll just have to cut it out entirely. I hope to the gods that ain't the case.

Also, there are two threads like this with similar responses because I started one of my own and am replying to an old one as well. And you are right to some degree: I'm on here because of CHS, not to talk about growing or smoking. But I'm not here to naysay the devil's weed or anything. I just want to talk to other people who might have my problem, and I want to let others know what might be the cause of their own problems as well.

I would never rail against marijuana. Even if I'm screwed and can't smoke or vape or even eat it at all without getting sick, I'd still adamantly fight for legalization the way I have for years. If the worst pot can do is cause CHS, it's still a helluva lot safer and better for you than alcohol or any number of legal pharmaceuticals available today. And, obviously, overconsumption of pot doesn't cause CHS in everyone the way that overconsumption of alcohol does in causing sclerosis of the liver.

Don't worry. I'm not here to be an anti-pot message. I'm only here to learn more about my own problem and to share my knowledge with others.

I don't think anyone is calling you out on your issues or problems. The issue as I see it is your doctor opinion and all these articles posted are all pretty much propaganda and that's it. I could site quite a few articles "muddying the waters" on many subjects. How old are you? The only real negative results from the use of cannabis comes when the human brain has not fully developed or younger adults and children. Listen to your body and take a grain of salt with any advice given.

26. Didn't start smoking til college.

I really wouldn't refer to a medical journal as propaganda. Especially not when the same results have been noted and published across the world. None of those articles even suggest cannabis use is a bad thing. Their conclusions all state that when you can't figure out the source of the symptoms, ask the patient if they're a long-term cannabis user. That seems to be the common denominator.

I mean, if you think this is propaganda, tell me why? Especially the article from 2004 that first 'discovered' the disorder? What purpose would a group of doctors from Australia (from the Adelaide Hills no less, where marijuana has been decriminalized for decades and use is common and accepted) have for making this up?

I could understand if these were news articles or something. But these are scholarly works from around the world. If they were created as propaganda, the anti-pot crusaders would be trumpeting this info from on high. Besides, what good would this do their cause anyway if only a small number of people have had this reaction?

As things are, no one outside of small circles in the medical field seems to know about it.

On a different note, from everything I've read here and elsewhere, the problem could be smoking raw marijuana as opposed to vaping it. When buds are vaped, you're really only inhaling THC and a few Cannabinoids. When you smoke it, you're smoking everything, including the burning vegetation.

Maybe that's what's building up over time and causing adverse reactions. I'm definitely more keen to try vaping later on.

one thing i will say, in all the heavy smokers i know (heavy being 1 or more ozs per day) all have mild photophobia. if its bright outside especially things like looking towards the sky to play catch or at the pool with water reflecting. sunglasses are a must and usually still have one eye closed and squinting.. i havent been able to find anything about this but i do believe it to be a an actual side effect since it effects everyone ive met

CHS? said:

It's time to face the music: chronic, frequent marijuana use can have negative consequences (aside from the obvious lung problems).

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chronic, frequent use of anything can have negative consequences. is this not apparent..?

qwizoking said:

one thing i will say, in all the heavy smokers i know (heavy being 1 or more ozs per day) all have mild photophobia. if its bright outside especially things like looking towards the sky to play catch or at the pool with water reflecting. sunglasses are a must and usually still have one eye closed and squinting.. i havent been able to find anything about this but i do believe it to be a an actual side effect since it effects everyone ive met

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i think your friends need better weed..

lol you assume cause i like to smoke weed all day its bad weed? maybe its just that good haha but no i understand me and my circle of friends have a pretty strong (mental) addiction to weed

Overuse of ANYTHING can cause problems. Hell even drinking too much water too quickly can cause problems.

I used to eat prilosec like candy (before that pepcid, before that prescription antacids) found out I was diabetic. Once I started eating properly, all that morning nausea and crap went away. I smoke weed and take insulin shots, no other medication at all.

It is unbelievable how much food we eat on a daily basis that should be banned from human consumption. White bread is one of the biggest culprits, enriched flour is a killer. Don't fall for the "wheat bread" crap either. It is just white bread dyed yellow most of the time.
Whole grain bread is what you want.

Silicity said:

Idk, I feel nauseous when I wake up, I hold it back most of the time, I get random abdominal pains that hurt like hell, yes a shower does help lol, idk it might be my gallbladder also

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hi, im sorry i didnt really go thru this thread all the way but i will after tihs post, but iwanted to ask, you wake up in the morning with stomach ache? feeling sick? do you smoke everyday and have been for years? is it like this. wake up. feelalright but not great, as you start moving you feel sick like your going to throw up, but then as soon as u smoke a few bowls or whatever your stomach is fine and eventually you get hungry etc?...it used to be like thsi for me, for awhile if ididnt have marijuana i literally could NOT eat..it sucked. but as soon as i smoked, i was fine, hungry as hell. but without it, i was irratated and moody. you know pretty much like any mind altering substance, theres always some type of withdrawal albeit minor, its still your body telling you it needs to clean your ass up and you need to clean your ass up to lol. i love MJ and im not saying its bad or a drug or anything, and no its not physically addicting like heroin or benzos, BUT....it will cause minor W/D symptoms without it after your body has been taking it every day for a long time...thats the way the body is with anything really, even non drug related things.


back when istopped smoking mj and was smoking the synthetic thc shit like JWH-018 and AM-2201 i would smoke it and be fine, but if i ran out i would get really really sick, like puking sick almost as bad as opiate w/d...it only lasted about two days though but it was pretty shitty and it was def. w/d symptoms...and synthetic and natural thc is almost identical other than potency (synthetic thc is ALOT more potent, ALOT) which prob. explains why i was sickc but who the hell knows. good luck with your stomach problems tho dude.

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back when istopped smoking mj and was smoking the synthetic thc shit like JWH-018 and AM-2201 i would smoke it and be fine, but if i ran out i would get really really sick, like puking sick almost as bad as opiate w/d...it only lasted about two days though but it was pretty shitty and it was def. w/d symptoms...and synthetic and natural thc is almost identical other than potency (synthetic thc is ALOT more potent, ALOT) which prob. explains why i was sickc but who the hell knows. good luck with your stomach problems tho dude.

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the synthetic cannabanoids do have with drawls thats a fact its not just in your head
they dont know which receptor there hitting half the time and alot of molecules with the key like attachment hanging off of it are addictive
which is why it's amazing that weed has almost no addiction
i made and sold spice locally while it was still grey jwh-18 and 250 make a nice little mix
but found that stuff is really dirty and to easy to O.D. on i smoked thresh hold doses vaped that a 1/4 of which i know a few people that fell dead over

and i wouldnt call it identical
the synthetics are attached to a napthalene molecule
here's the msds on napthalene
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927671
thought it was a miracle until i did some research
now i think its a miracle that im not a vegetable or worse

aknight3:

Yes. Those are the symptoms exactly. At least, that's how it was for a few years until the real problems started. Even when I'd smoke, I'd puke non-stop for days on end.

I know it's a long thread, especially after my long-winded ass started posting, but if you have these issues it's worth the read.

But yeah, the only way I could eat was by getting supremely high and letting the munchies take over. If I wasn't high, I couldn't even smell food cooking without feeling sick.

CHS? said:

aknight3:

Yes. Those are the symptoms exactly. At least, that's how it was for a few years until the real problems started. Even when I'd smoke, I'd puke non-stop for days on end.

I know it's a long thread, especially after my long-winded ass started posting, but if you have these issues it's worth the read.

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i had this same problem for many years, the only thing that cured it was to stop smoking weed for some time....i am a regular smoker again and i love it, but for my entire life i will always take breaks from marijuana or any drug just because the longer your body is on the stuff for a 24 hour cycle, it can really fuck your body up good, I wish i had better advice but i dont, i had the same problems, if i couldnt smoke i couldnt eat, but after i stopped and started again, its not like that, i mean i eat more when im high but if im sober i still eat...good luck




and tekdc, yea i realized the chemical structure is actually quite different between syn and thc, i thought it was the other way around, i will haev do to more research

i cant function with out coffee
i get extremely bad headaches
i smell coffee and it will go away
i guess caffine is addictive too
totally off subject but i think if we dig hard enough most of are problems could be based on a withdrawl from something if we look hard enough just sayin

aknight3 said:

i had this same problem for many years, the only thing that cured it was to stop smoking weed for some time....i am a regular smoker again and i love it, but for my entire life i will always take breaks from marijuana or any drug just because the longer your body is on the stuff for a 24 hour cycle, it can really fuck your body up good, I wish i had better advice but i dont, i had the same problems, if i couldnt smoke i couldnt eat, but after i stopped and started again, its not like that, i mean i eat more when im high but if im sober i still eat...good luck




and tekdc, yea i realized the chemical structure is actually quite different between syn and thc, i thought it was the other way around, i will haev do to more research

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ya the only thing is the tail which is on thc if a molecule has that tail it hits a cannabanoid receptor
alot of opiates have it too

jwh-018

jwh 250


the legs hanging off the sides also affect other receptors