Do Not Vote For Legalization Or You Are Stupid

MORD

Active Member
to be perfectly honest the real reason I didn't want it to be legal was so that I could make money on it... but I've given up that aspiration and really just want it to be CHEAPER!!! I'm still undecided... My Mexican gangster buddies certainly aren't for it. lol
 

klmmicro

Well-Known Member
I want it legal all the way around. I am a medical user, but see no reason for it to be in the state that it is. As long as the cartels can make money off of it, the crime will continue to be an issue. Once it is legal, the market will no longer be there for the folks that have taken over the back woods and parks in our country. I can understand the argument of the small time grower not making a living off it any longer. Sorry that the business will dwindle, but the positives outweigh the profit argument.
 

dewbie

Member
If cannabis was legal, more and more folks would grow their own- If you want the highest quality at rock bottom prices.
 

dankalotta

Member
hey man not only will it hurt some of us it will destroy the communitys because remember in elementry how easy it was to get ciggerettes imagine them all getting joints not that it was that much harder but still if kids dont think its illegal theyl all do it plus all the lames that dont do it that are older will be like oh what its legal now lets try it and get stuck on it and start wasting all there money on it insted of all the other stuff they used to so itl bring down business for all other types except for its own and it will make money for the government yea but it has too many negative effects it should be like how it is now medicine but for all states it should be perscribed like it is now not for everyone... its not made for everyone.
 

The Potologist

Active Member
hey man not only will it hurt some of us it will destroy the communitys because remember in elementry how easy it was to get ciggerettes imagine them all getting joints not that it was that much harder but still if kids dont think its illegal theyl all do it plus all the lames that dont do it that are older will be like oh what its legal now lets try it and get stuck on it and start wasting all there money on it insted of all the other stuff they used to so itl bring down business for all other types except for its own and it will make money for the government yea but it has too many negative effects it should be like how it is now medicine but for all states it should be perscribed like it is now not for everyone... its not made for everyone.
To compare the destruction of cigarettes to the make believe destruction of a legal cannabis is unfair and equally shallow. Its relevance is far shot in trying to compare elementary kids desire of cigarettes to their new found glory of cannabis. Moreso, to say that legalizing it will destroy communities is extremely shallow. There is no evidence of any such disaster. We have had every sort of epidemic in this country. Cannabis does not cause that sort of destruction while BEING LEGAL. Sure PROHIBITION DOES, But not regulation and legalization does not. That is all heresay based. A Hyper-Logical uninformed guess at what to come is a opinion...not something to spread, please. Information needs to be accurate, not overshot with ill advised unformulated hypothesis.

With cannabis being the Number one cash crop, there is money to be made by everyone. Our Governments need to make money, and they sure will with cannabis being legalized. However, citizens alike will make more off of it being legal than the Governments. IF it does bring down companies ( like pharamacuticals and such) it will be a far shot. Especially in pharamacuticals. Sure it may hurts sales of certian industries, but it wont bring them down. I dont think a one can be accurately described as to how its down fall can be linked to cannabis legalization. That is really far fetched. The pros vs. cons measure of Prop 19 is fairly simple to view. Sure there are to be negatives expected. But we ALREADY KNOW the sure shot PROS of Legalization. The Pro's of legalization can never be overwhelmed by the "assumed negatives". Cannabis was legal before...there have never been any recorded negatives while legal...so only time will tell. If its a "huge disaster" I am sure we will be quick to amend Prop 19 into some form of de facto illegalization.

Peace, Love, and Happiness
 

T0key

Active Member
If they were to legilize marijuana in the US ( that is were im talking about) The government would be creating a new REGULATED market. This means that you would be able to go to the gas station, or coffea shop or whatever and buy pot like beer. WHO CAN COMPETE WITH PERFECTLY ROLLD UP DOOBYS OF THE BEST SHIT???? CAN YOU???...... didnt thiknk so.....anyways back on track.

Right now about 80% of the cash earned by businesses in the US from retail sales comes from money that came from marijuana in one way or another. legilize it and about 90% of that money would dissapear meaning stores would close down, go out of business, people would go into debt, CHAOS.

Marijuana creates one of the biggest unregulated markets in the country with some 55MILLION people involved including people liek me and you. In a sense marijuana feuls america everyday. what do marijuana dealers do with the money they make???? THEY BUY SHIT, RANDOM SHIT CARS, BOATS, HOUSES, STOCKS, INVESTMENT, AND EVERYDAY THINGS FOOD, CLOTHS, GAS, HEALTH CARE PRODUCTS!! take this money, or market away from america and I think 60% of businesses would SIVEARLY suffer or all together shutdown. Alot of people would go crazy.

Decriminalization is a drastically different approach. If it were ever to happen, then think about it "all the users of your site could continue what they do everyday" the US continues to flourish like it does today except on average 185,000 people every year would be spared from jail, and we would save enough money from not having to house, feed, and jail these "criminals" (pot smokers, sellers) to bring our country out of this recession. Not to mention the millions we would save every year going after "weed criminals"

There would be millions and billions of dollars to spair for our coutry to use for valuable resources such as healthcare, military, and police for the REAL DRUGS cocaine, heroin, ect.

SO VOTE FOR DECRIMINALIZATION
I believe in freedom.

I'm less of a pragmatist
 

The Potologist

Active Member
I think sometimes, those who wish to be negative and shoot down Prop 19 tend to let there own personal selfish agenda's and illogical assumptions blind them from the Need and FACTS that their BELOVED HERB has a RIGHT and a NEED to be FREE :) I have found that when you bring to light the hypocracies of voting against cannabis and prop 19 to those who consume it see a great nexus of hypocracies. They then rationalize that in voting against it you are efffectively voting yourself into being a hypocrite. All at the continued expense of innocent bloodshed and a nations outcry for regulation, taxionation, and legalization! DONT BE SELFISHLY HYPOCRITICAL...DO THE RIGHT THING...VOTE YES FOR PROP 19 IN NOVEMBER!!!

Peace, Love, and Happiness
 

The Potologist

Active Member
If you want a decent education on both sides of the argument, the legalization and decriminalization, check out the suggested above. It's a great source to really make the decision on your own with reliable information.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1039647/
Thanks for the Link. The movie " The Union: The business behind getting high" is a great film in my opinion. Gotta love those hypocrites who grow cannabis illegally yet dont want it legal for their own selfish agenda. Its obvious it has never dawned on them that the plant has a right to be free. That plant you are extorting is due to its status within political civilizations. Craziness

Peace, Love, and Happiness
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the Link. The movie " The Union: The business behind getting high" is a great film in my opinion. Gotta love those hypocrites who grow cannabis illegally yet dont want it legal for their own selfish agenda. Its obvious it has never dawned on them that the plant has a right to be free. That plant you are extorting is due to its status within political civilizations. Craziness

Peace, Love, and Happiness
For some reason if people want to make a profit off cannabis legally are considered evil greedy bastards. But those who oppose prop 19 because they want to continue to profit off of prohibition are ok. lol

twisted logic
 

RavenMochi

Well-Known Member
you can get mad at dealers all you want to, but why is it once you have a criminal record its hard to get a job at all...then such business ventures become the only alternative, but feel free to villainize them if it helps you sleep better. Anyways, all they're doing is attempting to manipulate the system that manipulates them...
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
"i hate people that grow and sell pot. so i will vote in a bill that supports people who grow and sell pot."


makes perfect sense to me.

:neutral:
 

chef*bob

Member
practically the entire medical marijuana community is opposed to this bill, and in this day & age in california almost anyone who smokes is a patient.
im done debating this issue on forums, im just gonna start threads rubbing it in about how the bills not passing.
ill even make a bet that ill eat a shit sandwich and stop growing if prop19 passes. which it wont.
 

The Potologist

Active Member
If that is the case, I just hope all marijuana users alike are ready for the hills of laughter the Government is going to get out of this. " Who else to fuck up its chance other than stoners"...wonderful messages to the Government. To show the POT STATE not wanting to "regulate and legalize" through Prop 19 must mean that they agree with the US Government that
this plant has no right to be free. I am firm on saying that the Government is not going to see this as a failure of Prop 19. Who else other than stoner to fuck this up....Crazy people, crazy.

Once we can get past our own selfish thought that we all have the right political views, and our own selfish agendas, only then will this plant have ANY chance at being free...I am totally disgusted at the fact that cannabis users can't get around a glass wall and save this plant when we have the chance. In my opinion, Prop 19 is NOT about regulation, or taxation, or decriminalization ...but about a plants call to humans to be free. To have the social restraints lifted off of the plant....BUT if it makes you free smarter, or more american...or like a political genius....do what you need and vote no.....:spew:
 

The Potologist

Active Member
A THREE RING CIRCUS OF FREAKSHOWS

"Freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA, THE ONLY WAY, to fix it is to flush it all away, ANY FUCKING TIME, ANY FUCKING DAY"[video=youtube;uCEeAn6_QJo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCEeAn6_QJo[/video]
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
practically the entire medical marijuana community is opposed to this bill, and in this day & age in california almost anyone who smokes is a patient.
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If that was true then the polling data wouldn't be so close. It's actually a very small vocal minority in the medical cannabis community.
 

The Potologist

Active Member
According to more recent polls, its a very close race with those in FAVOR for Prop 19 leading the way. Its flucated from a high of 56% for to 44%(low point) for it....I just googled Prop 19 and thats where you can check credentials. As of yesterday we stay at 54% IN FAVOR. I also notice that the margin of error is greater for the NO votes than the yes. There is also a factor of undecided to inhear into this equation. Personally, I think Survey, USA is the most accurate. They claim higher rates of 70% on their website ...so :) Time will tell, :)

Peace, Love, and Happiness

I AM THE POTOLOGIST, AND I APPROVE OF PROP.19 ...VOTE YES IN NOVEMBER :)
 

Katatawnic

Well-Known Member
practically the entire medical marijuana community is opposed to this bill, and in this day & age in california almost anyone who smokes is a patient.
That's a very interesting claim. In the 11 yrs. I've been a legally sanctioned MMJ patient, I've personally known a whopping two others that were also legally using MMJ in CA... and I know a lot of pot smokers. That said, though I can't speak for the "medical community" as I've only known two others like myself, I certainly can speak for the myriad pot smokers I know, none of whom are opposed to this bill.
 
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