Do You Still Need A Final Flush When Organic?

SHOOT2KILL66

SHOOT2KILL66

The Gardener
Hi

When growing with organic nutes is the final flush still needed or can you feed right untill the end for flowering im just using batgauno and this organic nute called biosevia it says it makes the final taste of your buds much better so i was thinking i could feed untill the end ive been flushing as i went anyhow im just looking to know what way it works
 
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Brittney

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SHOOT2KILL66 said:
Hi

When growing with organic nutes is the final flush still needed or can you feed right untill the end for flowering im just using batgauno and this organic nute called biosevia it says it makes the final taste of your buds much better so i was thinking i could feed untill the end ive been flushing as i went anyhow im just looking to know what way it works
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did you ever figure if the final flush is required?
im growin organic too and curious about this
 
SHOOT2KILL66

SHOOT2KILL66

The Gardener
I just flush out as normal through out then about a week u can go a bit closer to harvest if u like becouse its organic but a week i would do it just incase then 2 days after do it again

Im still no wiser if its really needed thou lol some say it is and some say its not
I think it is my self just not as much as when using chemicals and u can feed closer to harvest
But with the fish mix and the bat shit and what ever a wash out would sound ok 2 me

Do many girls get called brittney in ireland
 
MIKE JONES

MIKE JONES

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i stop nutes a week and a half before harvest, they get just water, then i let them go anotha 3 or 4 days,i find it helps on drying and reison amounts if you harvest dry plants, thats just me tho
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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If you are organic you don't need to flush as there are no build up of salts and chems. Feed to the end or switch to water and sucanat or molasses for the last 10 days.

I always have harvested my plants at the end of the dark period. When in dark mode the plant sends most of the liquid in the plant to the roots so you have less water and food content in the leaves. Thats why the leaves droop at night.

There is more research out that says leaving your plants in 36 hours of dark will increase the resin production. I tried this on last crop and would do it again for sure.

Peace
 
TheDude0007

TheDude0007

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woodsmaneh! said:
There is more research out that says leaving your plants in 36 hours of dark will increase the resin production. I tried this on last crop and would do it again for sure.

Peace
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Thats very interesting and makes sense. I am harvesting in a few weeks and I am going to try that. So I just switch the lights of for 36 hours and then cut the girls, or should I pull them root and all?

BTW I agree need for flush is less with organic. I have not flushed and had no bad taste or any other related nute problem in the final product.
 
Smokedogg76

Smokedogg76

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I have been doing organic nutes for years now and I still flush. If you do a side by side comparison the flushed weed tasted and burned better. You have to get out the excess nutes and salts. I mix some carbs with my water and I flush for at least 24 to 48 hours in complete darkness. That will give you resin filled buds and smoother smoke. Hope this helps.
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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what salts in organic?

Salts are used in chemicals dude not OMRI organic.

The whole purpose of organic is to let them take what they need vs force feeding them with chemicals. Do you see people who grow outside flushing their crops.

If you use organic methods you don't need to flush.

If growing in pots and you want to flush well its up to you.

Flushing comes from the hydro mind set and they need to do it we don't.

Peace
 
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madodah

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woodsmaneh! said:
what salts in organic?

Salts are used in chemicals dude not OMRI organic.

The whole purpose of organic is to let them take what they need vs force feeding them with chemicals. Do you see people who grow outside flushing their crops.

If you use organic methods you don't need to flush.

If growing in pots and you want to flush well its up to you.

Flushing comes from the hydro mind set and they need to do it we don't.

Peace
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+1. Why flush an organic grow medium that's delivering only what plants require?
 
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madodah

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stonedmetalhead1 said:
Why are people using liquid organic supplements? Why not just build up your soil? I build my soil and use plain water throughout the entire grow. It's way less hassle than dealing with fertilizers and no need to flush because the plant only uses what it needs.
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Because they've been hooked by aggressive marketing that applies to chemical growers.
 
shannonball

shannonball

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if you are 100% organic in all the ferts and add-ins then you don't need to flush. just stop using them around 10-14 days b-4 harvest. there aren't any salts in true organic growing to build up on the root structure. we just use warm non-chlorinated or distilled water and molasses.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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you have to flush even with organics. there are salts all through, calcium carbonate, magnesium carbonate, phosphate, in potassium and sodium which have similar salts. fish meal, bone meal, sea kelp, sulfur, zinc......etc..... you can carbon disulfide liquid will dissolve the mineral and not the salt. Filter to remove the salt. You then evaporate carbon disulfide liquid to recover the mineral.
 
shannonball

shannonball

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no u don't. Also, you must be pretty baked cuz your comment basically makes no sense. we've been doing grows since 1976 and have used both chemical and organic ferts and for the last 10 years only organic and compared flushed versus non-flushed harvests from the same grow. there is no difference in taste, effect or buzz. so if you want to flush your organic grow go ahead. the last two-three weeks we only use warm chlorine free water and molasses.

Chemical fertilizers are usually derived from petroleum or rocks. Organic fertilizer comes from manure, bloodmeal, fish, chicken feathers and compost. While chemical fertilizers are processed so that they are purely nutrients and immediately available to the plant, organic fertilizers take time to break down into nutrient form. Chemical fertilizers generally contain the main three nutrients plants need -- nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium -- while organic fertilizers contain a range of nutrients, including calcium and magnesium, but in much lower concentrations.

Organic fertilizers more accurately mimic the breakdowns that occur in nature. Since organic fertilizers do not contain the high salt content that chemical fertilizers do, they do not dehydrate plants or cause salt deposits to build up. They release nutrients slowly, which can do less damage to the plant and won't burn the plants leaves. Over time, proper use of organic fertilizers can improve the health of the soil.
 
shannonball

shannonball

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exactly. most of the people on here really have very little clue about true organic gardening and what it means. when i read all the shit people are using on their plants and all then flushing...it just creates so much more to manage and worry about. we are 100% organic and will put our harvest up against anyone's for both taste, yield and buzz. Also alot of these folks really fail to do adequate research. once you build up your medium with the right nutrients why would you ever flush them away. makes no sense!
 
NLNo5

NLNo5

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You may not need to flush but there is defo non-beneficial salts in your pots at the end of the grow. I like to flush with some molasses. YOU may not need to, but I like to do it anyway. Doesn't hurt to flush on the last week.
 
shannonball

shannonball

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we don't flush the roots to remove any salt buildup. we just use warm water and molasses the last couple of weeks.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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NLNo5 said:
You may not need to flush but there is defo non-beneficial salts in your pots at the end of the grow. I like to flush with some molasses. YOU may not need to, but I like to do it anyway. Doesn't hurt to flush on the last week.
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ive never flushed with molasses, i hear people do it. i dont for the fact that it has nutes in it, potassium, magnesium, iron, calcium, and sodium (salt)
 
hyroot

hyroot

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shannonball said:
no u don't. Also, you must be pretty baked cuz your comment basically makes no sense. we've been doing grows since 1976 and have used both chemical and organic ferts and for the last 10 years only organic and compared flushed versus non-flushed harvests from the same grow. there is no difference in taste, effect or buzz. so if you want to flush your organic grow go ahead. the last two-three weeks we only use warm chlorine free water and molasses.

Chemical fertilizers are usually derived from petroleum or rocks. Organic fertilizer comes from manure, bloodmeal, fish, chicken feathers and compost. While chemical fertilizers are processed so that they are purely nutrients and immediately available to the plant, organic fertilizers take time to break down into nutrient form. Chemical fertilizers generally contain the main three nutrients plants need -- nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium -- while organic fertilizers contain a range of nutrients, including calcium and magnesium, but in much lower concentrations.

Organic fertilizers more accurately mimic the breakdowns that occur in nature. Since organic fertilizers do not contain the high salt content that chemical fertilizers do, they do not dehydrate plants or cause salt deposits to build up. They release nutrients slowly, which can do less damage to the plant and won't burn the plants leaves. Over time, proper use of organic fertilizers can improve the health of the soil.
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how does that not make sense i named all the minerals or what not thats found in organic material. they all have saaaaaalts.. your saying there is no salt in fish or manure, blood meal. c'mon now....... almost every living thing has salt in it..... the point is to leech out salts and nutes so that its clean. soma , jorge cervantes, marc emery, ed rosenthal, dj short, etc.... all recommened flushing and they do it themselves too. they all make their own organic mixes. do what ever. more power to you
 
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