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Dr.D81

Dr.D81

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OK I am dabbed out and might have some pain killers left in me too I took after the dentist visit today . That has me in bed at 9 giving me a chance to finally respond to the fem vs reg debate. First thank you all for your input and I will keep working some reg crosses for the guys looking for males.

Now like I said I will keep making fems because I have asked to repeatedly by multiple people. I think to say fems are inferior is a bit harsh @shorelineOG since I bet more than one of your clone onlys came from them. I know I have a ton that did and a ton with male fathers. You do have to accept them for what they are and yes @Smidge34 is right they do have a higher rate of herms in my experience and S1 lines will be even higher. For the folks who said that the only reason the fems sold out was because they were gg4 and cherry pie s1 that is not really accurate as that was what had not sold out and made it to OES for you guys to see them sale out. Plus the only two reasons I made s1s was by request of Garilla seed bank who then backed out of all our deals, and for a couple breeding experiments I am doing. I will not making them for that much longer as I would like to move to a busyness model more like Ocean grown seeds and not be using any cuts I didn't pheno hunt my self. I have 20 dog kush s1 going now selected from 60 based on vigour. I will pull a cut to s2 and those would be the first I would release past the few of these I let go off @eastcoasttress . I do believe I will be replacing gg4 with Cpg but then again here is the rub. Cpg is a great cross and much better than the glue IMO so far so I would like to keep making them but then that goes against the whole only using my cuts part. I will be popping a big batch of gg4 s1s to pull a better glue to breed with also. Fuck I think I got off topic some where but I am a bit lit right now:)
 
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chronicals77

chronicals77

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I know this is off topic but I just have a quick question. Has anyone ever grown a mutant tri leaf to full term? This is the first time in 22-23 years ive ever seen one. Are they worth 2.5-3 months of time and $20 worth of nutrients? I was told by the breeder of the seed (Femaleseeds.nl) that they are very rare and if they do well the can produce huge narley mutant buds. Can anyone give any validity to this statement? I don't know to keep it, or sell/trade it to a grower buddy. I can only grow one plant at a time and this is the reason I am so picky about each and every seed I recieve. I cannot afford to be 4-5 weeks or longer into a grow and end up with a tiny yielding plant or males/hermies. Good clones are rare to come by where I am. This is why my expectations are so high when it comes to paying good money for fem seeds.
 
SmokyLungs

SmokyLungs

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chronicals77 said:
I know this is off topic but I just have a quick question. Has anyone ever grown a mutant tri leaf to full term? This is the first time in 22-23 years ive ever seen one. Are they worth 2.5-3 months of time and $20 worth of nutrients? I was told by the breeder of the seed (Femaleseeds.nl) that they are very rare and if they do well the can produce huge narley mutant buds. Can anyone give any validity to this statement? I don't know to keep it, or sell/trade it to a grower buddy. I can only grow one plant at a time and this is the reason I am so picky about each and every seed I recieve. I cannot afford to be 4-5 weeks or longer into a grow and end up with a tiny yielding plant or males/hermies. Good clones are rare to come by where I am. This is why my expectations are so high when it comes to paying good money for fem seeds.
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Post a pic why don't ya my purple animal kush by in-house grew 3 finger leaves if thats what u mean and smoke was great
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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Larry {the} Gardener said:
I'm way behind, but thought I would give my thoughts on the birds and the bees. People, dogs and dope plants all draw on huge gene pools. I look just like my 2nd cousin on my Daddy's side of the family. I also have very many of his mannerisms. Do I think Mamma was stepping out? Or was it just one of those quirks that will happen in breeding? One vote for quirk.

Plants do the same thing. The genes you get may be from 2 or 3 generations back. That is why you pop lots of seeds.
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This post right here is a great one for people to understand why s1 seeds don't reproduce exact offspring of mom plant. S1 seeds opens up the recessive gene pool so that's why there's so many phenos in them. Some will be bad, some ok, some really good and a few that could be considered elite it's just the way it is.

I personally don't think fem seeds are bad cus as it has been stated lots of elites come from s1 bag seeds and herm crosses. Hell I believe lots of the OG phenos that are considered elite cuts ones not known about till the early 2000s are s1 beans made by orgnkid but who knows. But I don't think fem diminishes the gene pool if it does its cus people are using shit stuff to start with. But it's all a preference thing IMHO and I like both. Grow more regs than fems but I like fems cus it gives you the chance to grow a cross of clone only cuts that you won't get to ever grow regs cus of no male. Regs gives us the chance to preserve a cross truly if it's good and keep the elites around in seed form even tho it's not pure
 
Larry {the} Gardener

Larry {the} Gardener

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akhiymjames said:
This post right here is a great one for people to understand why s1 seeds don't reproduce exact offspring of mom plant. S1 seeds opens up the recessive gene pool so that's why there's so many phenos in them. Some will be bad, some ok, some really good and a few that could be considered elite it's just the way it is.
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Last year I ran some F1 seeds from a cross my BIL made in 1988. I got seeds off of 11 of the 12 girls. This year I'm growing out a bunch of them, looking for that golden bean. I see a lot more difference in this year's plants.
 
chronicals77

chronicals77

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Its called a tri-leaf. It grows 3 leaves at every node instead of two. Three feeder leaves, three single finger leaves, three three finger leaves and so on. Apparently they are rare. If they do well there supposed produce big weird mutant buds. They supposedly dont get as bushy as a normal Indica or Indica dominate.
 

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chronicals77 said:
Its called a tri-leaf. It grows 3 leaves at every node instead of two. Three feeder leaves, three single finger leaves, three three finger leaves and so on. Apparently they are rare. If they do well there supposed produce big weird mutant buds. They supposedly dont get as bushy as a normal Indica or Indica dominate.
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I dont think they are really rare. Triploids. I had 1/2 dozen of them last year in 40 plants. All different strains
 
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