DoeEyed's Perpetual Grow Log

DenseBuds said:

Hey DE, you said you order seeds from Attitude right? How long do they usually take once dispatched? Mine were just sent out today. Trying to figure out when I need to go check my mailbox.

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It can vary, but usually I get mine about eight days after I order - just recieved my latest order today though, and it was 13 days this time. So I would say start keeping an eye out, after a week - within two weeks you should have 'em.

So! My seeds came today! lol Soaking the latest round as we speak, here's the lineup, all feminized:

6 GHS The Church
6 GHS Cheese
1 GHS White Widow
1 GHS Kings Kush
1 GHS Bubba Kush
1 G13 Labs Royal Kush
2 Dinafem Power Kush

This is going to be a challenging grow for me, with seven different strains - but I'm looking forward to it! Bring on the bud!

DoeEyed said:

It can vary, but usually I get mine about eight days after I order - just recieved my latest order today though, and it was 13 days this time. So I would say start keeping an eye out, after a week - within two weeks you should have 'em.

So! My seeds came today! lol Soaking the latest round as we speak, here's the lineup, all feminized:

6 GHS The Church
6 GHS Cheese
1 GHS White Widow
1 GHS Kings Kush
1 GHS Bubba Kush
1 G13 Labs Royal Kush
2 Dinafem Power Kush

This is going to be a challenging grow for me, with seven different strains - but I'm looking forward to it! Bring on the bud!

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good luck gurl i,ve heard horror stories about multi-strain grows but as long as u feed them by the less is more motto it should b amazing

looking forward to watchin the kushs'..ive never delt with them but plan to soon ..now i have u to tell me which is better...wooohoo

Wow alots changed since the last time I peeked in here lol. Looks good, you shoulda let that TW go a bit longer something like 12-13 weeks for the less airy feel. Its cool you grow and learn its all a part of the game. Your current grow is looking bomb. You gonna do like a sog style grow with those four lights? Or just have one big harvest every couple months?

greenfirekilla420 said:

Wow alots changed since the last time I peeked in here lol. Looks good, you shoulda let that TW go a bit longer something like 12-13 weeks for the less airy feel. Its cool you grow and learn its all a part of the game. Your current grow is looking bomb. You gonna do like a sog style grow with those four lights? Or just have one big harvest every couple months?

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Thanks! Yeah I figured the TW needed more time, probably more light, as well.
I have another TW seed, just got it as a
freebie - I'm saving it along with a Super Lemon Haze, for when I have a bit more patience. lol
I think it'll be more like a sog style - I'll be planting 18 ladies every five weeks (well I'm working on the clone thing, lol), nine under each light.

BigSkyBudTHC said:

congratulations on the successful cloning. you inspired me to take a cutting off my purple widow and try the cup method.

but down the road i definitely want to clone myself. in the high times 2009 grow guide there is a detailed guide to building an aeroponic cloner unit. me and my m8 said hell ya we can build that. included are a few pictures. $300-$400 dollar cloner for about $50.

yea we built it in about an hour and the purple clone will have a new home tomorrow.

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Is it me, or are Stinkbud's measurements off a bit? For example, the parts list calls for 8 7" pieces. But then when you look at the measurements of everything put together, it's like he didn't account for the bit of pipe that slides into the elbows/caps/tees. So my sprayer came out looking like a dwarf. My plan is to figure out about how much pipe disappears into the fittings and add that on to each of the lengths of pipe in the parts list.

Currently, the sprayer structure is about 9" tall x 6" deep x 17" wide. Cutting new pipe with the extra length would make it 1 1/4" taller. With this new height, the sprayers would be right about 6" from the lid, which is optimal from what I've read.

My cloner:




This is a pic of Stinbud's cloner from his thread. Certainly looks to me like it's taller compared to the 18 gal tub. I bet he was stoned and measured after it was all put together or something:



[Edit] Check it out, found a video of Stinkbud's on youtube. Looks like my height may be OK...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydaSi6raugQ

mine looks like yours and sprays the bottom of the cuttings just fine. i added an air-stone and air pump to help things some. to me stinkbuds looks like its not siting on the bottom of the tote. maybe he had to lift the water pump up to get that shot. the measurements seemed fine to me.

the hieght can b altered to your prefrance or container size...consider maybe a smaller container and use weatherproofing strips to deal with the leaks...also no need for airstones the water is more than airated when pushed thru pumps-pipe-and sprayers

now if u wanted to leave them in there and veg a couple weeks i would add an airstone as soon as the tap root hits the water

soory about the typo's this widow got me silly

Cool, thanks

I got the totes for two of them, all the pvc pieces cut and deburred, holes drilled. Mine is also about 17" in length. If it helps anyone, I found the best spots to drill the sprayer holes are at 2.5", 6.5", 10.5", and 14.5" (already assembled). Now for the big question - where's the best place to get the pumps? Also - I haven't messed with any kind of aero or hydro before, so a link and/or idea of what kind of timer I need would be great - tried looking but my god, there are so many!

So on with the updates! All 18 seeds germinated, and have been planted. Already have four sprouts! (Two Church and both Power Kush). But seeds I understand, lol.

Clones, on the other hand... I lost two more, for whatever reason the roots died off - maybe I damaged them in the first transplant? Anyway - the remaining four are doing great, they are in their three gallon homes now. Four out of ten - that really sucks, guys! Not even 50%. I hope the cloners I'm building help me achieve a better survival rate! Question - do you count the age of the clone from the day it has enough roots to transplant, or from the day you cut it off the mother?

The Lemon Skunk are doing well, one week in flower now - they seem to really like the new light, thus far they've crept up to a foot under it, with no sign of damage. I'll be happy if I can maintain that distance! They really are a bushy strain, I hope they bud as nice as they've vegged! Got a pic of one of my little buddies, too - helping keep my plants bug free! (Now there's some irony, eh?)lol

no timer needed. run it 24/7. as for the pump petsmart, walmart, or home depot. my m8 bought the pump and i'm not sure where. we got a little smaller one then the plans called for.

Looking great as always, lots of Lemon Skunk pics in my grow log if you wanna compare.

Yes run it 24/7. This is the way my pvc layout is and it fits snug.

I've run 24x7. Really as long as you can keep the res at a reasonable temp, it will work fine. It gets hot as hell here though so I just ordered a CAP NFT-1e timer. Runs for a min and then off for 4. Keeps things cooler since running the pump heats up the water.

CAP NFT-1e timer http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-nft1e-1minute-on-4minutes-off-preset-recycle-timer-p-1725.html
Pump http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/ecoplus-396-gph-submersible-water-pump-p-237.html

BigSkyBudTHC said:

no timer needed. run it 24/7. as for the pump petsmart, walmart, or home depot. my m8 bought the pump and i'm not sure where. we got a little smaller one then the plans called for.

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The smaller pump still works well? How much smaller?

ReelFiles said:

Looking great as always, lots of Lemon Skunk pics in my grow log if you wanna compare.

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Thanks! Just read your LS journal, yours are looking good too! I couldn't bring myself to call 'em Arnie and Danny, though - just seems like bad luck to give 'em male names! lol

#1Raiderfan420 said:

Yes run it 24/7. This is the way my pvc layout is and it fits snug.

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Very nice, no leaks with all those sprayers?

DenseBuds said:

I've run 24x7. Really as long as you can keep the res at a reasonable temp, it will work fine. It gets hot as hell here though so I just ordered a CAP NFT-1e timer. Runs for a min and then off for 4. Keeps things cooler since running the pump heats up the water.

CAP NFT-1e timer http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/cap-nft1e-1minute-on-4minutes-off-preset-recycle-timer-p-1725.html
Pump http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/ecoplus-396-gph-submersible-water-pump-p-237.html

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Thanks for the links! Anyone else have heat issues running it all the time? My room is already 75F with one 400w MH and one 324w CFL rack, before I even fire up the second 400w MH - so heat may be a concern, I don't know yet. Do you guys all get 100% (or close to) with these cloners? One last question - how do you remove (and plant) the clone, once it's rooted, without damaging the roots?

DoeEyed said:

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Thanks! Just read your LS journal, yours are looking good too! I couldn't bring myself to call 'em Arnie and Danny, though - just seems like bad luck to give 'em male names! lol

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Haha, don't worry they are from feminized seed.

ReelFiles said:

Haha, don't worry they are from feminized seed.

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Only way to go!

Cloning will benefit your setup and style so much more. It would take a whole lot less time as well. Go into the cloning situation with a can do attitude and by golly youll be able too. Make sure you take your time and follow everystep of which ever step by step guide your following and you should get great results. Youll learn your strain inside and out which will enable you to know exactly when to harvest and everything. I can't wait to see what your gonna do with the 4 600s. You gonna add one of those 400s in there in the middle or something just to get light everywhere?

Great update Doe. I am getting in the habit of checking you out on mondays now. Your plants always look real good and your upgrade seems to be doing well. Ya know this is winter and you already told me its cold out there so if you are gonna run those 600's this summer I got one word for you, AC

For water pumps you need to consider how high water needs to go, like you pump up 2 feet then into sprayer and you want a pump that 200gph more then you would if it was level. I use a 400gph and pump up about 2 feet and it works fine. A 250 on the other hand will get water there but not enough spray. Here is a good site to check out. Cheap, good products and dont cost an arm and a leg to ship. http://www.hydroponics.net/c/317

As far as determining the age of the clone, I always start the day I took the cutting. Usually they root in a week or two but not ready to transplant to dirt for another week or so. The roots are not really that fragile, its the fine hairs on the roots. Pull the net pot off. Sure be carefull but what breaks off will grow back anyway.

40% rooted? My first try I got 2 out of 12 to root so dont feel bad.
But ya know with a little practice almost all root.

Hope I was of some help.

hey doeeyed awesome grow! got a couple question for ya if u dont mind...what is your schedule for feeding during flowering with the jacks nutes..and how often do you give plain water? And i know it is hard to say exactly ..but about how much water do you water a 3 gallon pot with?