does anyone else think guns should be banned?

As others have stated, no. Guns shouldn't be banned.

Why give away your right as a citizen to bear arms?

Its there for a reason, and we all know what that reason is.

An oppressive, all too powerful gov't.

Sure, you can decide not to own guns, but I know
I'll be reaching for my gpa's 9mm when gov't officials

try and come to my house to inject me with a
"mandatory" flu vaccine that more than likely
has a microchip in it. If it didn't, they wouldn't be saying

"if this flu kills more than 30,000 people the vaccine will
become mandatory".

Just a statistic, the common cold and flu killed 38,000 people
last year, but do you see the gov't saying everyone

has to have mandatory cold/flu vaccine for that?

(Took a CPR/First aid class, the instructor told us that, we also
talked about that "mandatory" vaccine".)

No. Somethings up, and if you're blind to it, I feel
bad for you. (not you specifically, just anyone who doesn't
realize something fishy is going on)

Also, I bet they will have hard time in the states where everyone
is required to own a firearm. How will they make you take a shot

knowing every citizen is armed and ready to defend themselves?

What about when food supplies drop too low to support the whole
nation?

How will we hunt with no guns? What will we use, crossbows?

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to agree to giving away a right
I was born with.

steve1978 said:

i started this thread as i was asked to stop posting in the gun enthusiast thread. it seems to me for a stoner website theres a hell of a lot of people who like to shoot things! lol.

heres my reasons why i think guns should be banned.
1. in 2006 there were 60.000 fatal incidents involving guns in the us. compare that tt the 4.237 that have been killed in iraq in FIVE years it shows if you want to be safe join the army!
What you added at the end can be thrown out based on percentages.
2. america has the highest suicide rates in the world. fact. this even includes switzerland where it is legal for assisted suicide. (for this reason many people from over europe go there for a dignified end.)
Yah, guns are the only way to commit suicide...
3. if people have access to guns they shoot if they dont they cant!
Ever heard of the black market? Even if they were made illegal, criminals can still get them just as easily. Ex: In college it was easier for me to get bud than booze when I was underage, so obviously being legal for some doesn't mean anything.
4. only 0.8 percent of fatal shootings in america are in self defenc. this makes a mockery of the claim that fire arms are essential for personal safety.
Don't have anything to say to that, b/c that is shitty.

any way this is all my opinion. if anyone else has any reasons feel free to post!

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America will never outlaw guns. 2nd Amendment is too strong and supported by too many, sorry.

why are ALL of your points in this debate about kids shooting kids?


you cant use this statistic....


because guns and kids are not supposed to go together (without safety education)

I think its funny when a thread is opened for gun enthusiasts, it gets killed by people who dont like guns.
https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/215913-where-gun-enthusiasts-part-2-a-4.html

And when a new thread is opened asking for people who support a gun ban, he gets people who are against gun bans
https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/219134-does-anyone-else-think-guns.html

I think I'll open a new thread asking for fully clothed ugly chicks, just to see what happens

lol bigtomato - i'd subscribe to that thread....

the only way to truly stop guns is to literally banish them from existence.

since that's not possible, it's all based around the issues many people have brought up in this thread, parenting.

bigtomatofarmer said:

I think I'll open a new thread asking for fully clothed ugly chicks, just to see what happens

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lmao Well, using that logic you'll get a bunch of naked guys. I think you wanted the opposite of everything right?

when you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have the guns. as long as they are being manufactured the civilian citizen is put more and more at risk the more you put restrictions on gun ownership. i mean cmon. marijuana is still illegal for most of us on here but what are we doing. breaking the law. so if a criminal wants to use a firearm all the restrictions and laws in tjhe world is not going to stop him from opening fire on your wife and children if he so fits. the only thing that will help in that situation is if the law abiding citizen has the access to the same weaponry as the criminal.

Well... first off, if some one is gonna commit suicide, not having a gun is not gonna stop them. Maybe we should ban tall buildings or rope. Second, less shootings would happen if the "bad guys" with the guns fully kew that the person that they were going to shoot was also carringa a gun. If some motherfucker pulls a gun in a crowd then I don't wamma see people run and cower, that's how you get shot. Rather legalize personal guns to carry so when that son of a bitch pulls his piece, there's ten other peole to pull out there gat and say, "What now mother fucker!" If you ban guns the real assholes are still gonna be able to get them via the "underground" and are still gonna shoot us. Now that guns are "BANNED!" people like you and me can't protect ourselves from the low lives of society. Thanks.



By the way: You're on a growers forum. If you grow you need to be protected. I would strongly recommend to keep some form of protection. Doesn't have to be a gun necessarily, a missle launcher will suffice, but protect yourself, your crop and any one involved.

guitarabuser said:

lmao Well, using that logic you'll get a bunch of naked guys. I think you wanted the opposite of everything right?

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haha yeah i guess your right.
I didnt think of that

jiggs2269 said:

Well... first off, if some one is gonna commit suicide, not having a gun is not gonna stop them. Maybe we should ban tall buildings or rope. Second, less shootings would happen if the "bad guys" with the guns fully kew that the person that they were going to shoot was also carringa a gun. If some motherfucker pulls a gun in a crowd then I don't wamma see people run and cower, that's how you get shot. Rather legalize personal guns to carry so when that son of a bitch pulls his piece, there's ten other peole to pull out there gat and say, "What now mother fucker!" If you ban guns the real assholes are still gonna be able to get them via the "underground" and are still gonna shoot us. Now that guns are "BANNED!" people like you and me can't protect ourselves from the low lives of society. Thanks.



By the way: You're on a growers forum. If you grow you need to be protected. I would strongly recommend to keep some form of protection. Doesn't have to be a gun necessarily, a missle launcher will suffice, but protect yourself, your crop and any one involved.

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+rep for a great post.

I have never been into guns.
All this talk about Gun control.
Has scared me and I am now Going To start stock piling them and bullets.
Anyone trys to take them. Will Die this is my right.
Dont mess with.
It will be civil war and revolution if you try.

People just don't think about the things they believe in sometimes, they just follow them blindly.


Think if guns were banned....what happened when alcohol was prohibited? What has happened because of marijuana prohibition? Or anything else that has been or is prohibited. Yeah, it's all over the streets, right? And even though marijuana is a very mild soft drug, it's literally everywhere, we smoke it and some people kill each other for the money that comes in because of it. It isn't the product thats dangerous, it's how it's being traded on the black market, instead of in a more controlled free market, money and greed make men monsters, we all know this.

So how nasty do you think the black market trade for firearms will get if all firearms are illegal for citizens to have? Would you rather that only some guns were under the radar, or ALL OF THEM? Banning guns doens't get rid of them, prohibition should of taught you that. Banning guns takes them out of our hands, and places them in the hands of criminals.

If people want to kill themselves, then I say let them (of course I would try and stop someone from doing so, but hey, it's your life), and I suggest using a gun over other less successful measures. It's messy, but who cares, you'll be dead anyway. But don't blame the gun when your brains hit the wall.....that's YOUR fault.

If you think people have itchy trigger fingers now, wait til you "try" and take their guns away. I honestly believe it very well could spark a very violent civil war of sorts. There are people that you will literally have to kill to get them to give up their guns, and there are more of them than you realize.




NOW, in minor defense of the anti-gun people, I do agree on a level of sorts, in regards to people thinking they should be allowed fully automatic assault rifles. Sorry, but IMO, those are not required firearms to properly excercise your right to bare arms and hunt game. If you suck at shooting bad enough, get a semi-auto and throw lead all over the place. I've NEVER fired twice at the same deer/elk in my life, so bolt actions are my rifle of choice.

We have to draw the line somewhere, otherwise we'd all be allowed to have nukes in our garage, and any sane person would agree that that would be a bad idea.

I agree to a point,
We need to be able to defend ourselves against our government.

bossman88188 said:

I agree to a point,
We need to be able to defend ourselves against our government.

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+1 to that. big fuckin time.

If you are growing, you do need to protect yourself.....not with weapons though. Who is going to come to your house with a gun? Odds are it's going to be the police, and if you shoot at them, justified or not, you are fucked. So really having a gun near your grow is only going to get your gun taken away and yourself viewed as a dangerous, potentially dangerous person in court if you ever got busted. Alarms can get you busted from a neighbor calling it in our even your own alarm company, dogs barking get the cops called.



Best thing to protect yourself with is duct tape..........take a 6'' piece and put it over your mouth, and in doing so 99.9% of all the potential problem you may have, have just been eliminated.

bossman88188 said:

I agree to a point,
We need to be able to defend ourselves against our government.

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Oh no doubt, I am there with you on that one, but what good is an automatic against tank, fighter pilot, missle, hundreds of thousands of military personel, etc.

All things, the government has, and we do not.

One F-16 could own 10,000 people with uzi's. It would be there and gone before we even realized we were dead.

Again somewhat agreed.
If the police are coming to round up my guns.
Well thats there mistake.

But like I said I dont even own a gun. YET.

Best thing to protect yourself with is duct tape..........take a 6'' piece and put it over your mouth, and in doing so 99.9% of all the potential problem you may have, have just been eliminated.

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I totally agree with you spandy. But beyond the whole growing point there is always someone looking to get one up on you at any cost. Regardless of you status. And if you're curious I DID train that monkey to shoot. His name is Fifi and he's a meto sexual primemate who can bust a cap in yo ass from 50 yards. HA!

But seriously I don't even have a gun. You could keep a bat just in case some one breaks in to your home. It happen to me as a kid. My mom is an ex cop and she kept a bat in the closet and a rambo knife under her pillow. And at that time a gun in her holster. I follow the same precautions except minus the gun and add about 5 swords. I will most likely never need to use them because I do my best to stay out of shaddy areas and not to associate with less than par people. You never know who's gonna get you. All I know is that if someone comes after me they're gonna wished they didn't.

P.S. How many post do I need to have untill I'm not a stranger. I don't wanna be a stranger anymore. I wanna be yo friend.