Does length of branch matter for (sativa) clone?

Can I take some bottom branches now b 4 it begins to flower, which I estimate will be in a week or two, and clone them?

They don't have many leaves, look kind of spindly can't imagine there will be much if any yield at all.

Or alternatively, should I cut off ALL bottom branches since most all are the same, sparse nodes, 4-5 in apart and
toss them?

You can clone from any branch pretty much. I actually have better success taking smaller clones than bigger ones. Either way, cloning is pretty easy.

I started taking those spindly lower chutes and cloning them for practice, I was giving them away I had so many. Now I have femmed clones spread across a 60 mile radius....lol

I've had better success (in terms of rooting time) with newer growth. It seems to me the hardened off branches take longer than the softer tops, but again that's just me. I also go on the shorter side, the smaller the clone the easier it is for the remaining leaves to keep it hydrated is my thinking.

I should have been more specific: Thx for your replies, but I am writing primarily and only about SATIVA clones, as I have had a 1 to 1000 failure rate, Sativa vs Indica or indica/sativa hybird.

Sativas are a near total failure for going on 1.5 years now. I keep at it, but nothing I do works with the strains I have tried.

doobie57z: Are the shoots that you clone, Sativa??

all hybrids, Im not aware of any 100% sativa that is available in the US,but I would be very interested.

doobie57z said:

all hybrids, Im not aware of any 100% sativa that is available in the US,but I would be very interested.

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Have grown many, got a Dalat goin right now, 5 weeks in flower before it even showed sex, in week 8 now and no sign of buds yet. Growin true Sats is a whole nuther animal

4nikator said:

Can I take some bottom branches now b 4 it begins to flower, which I estimate will be in a week or two, and clone them?

They don't have many leaves, look kind of spindly can't imagine there will be much if any yield at all.

Or alternatively, should I cut off ALL bottom branches since most all are the same, sparse nodes, 4-5 in apart and
toss them?

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It's the way i grow,i take clones the day of flowering,and then let them root through medium cube's normally 14 day's,these then become my next set i flower ,i put them under a t5 for 6 week,and there pretty much ready to flower by the time the set in flower are done.

If i want to run a other strain then i take cut's from a friend who hold's mothers just in case we ever need them,and do what i put above start the rooting the day of flowering,the plants end up around 2 ft tall and very bushy after a few topping's during the 6/7 week veg

doobie57z said:

all hybrids, Im not aware of any 100% sativa that is available in the US,but I would be very interested.

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These two plants are from seeds that came loose and got covered over the fall, winter, and spring from several plants I had to cut down or yank last year b 4 I could harvest (a whole other story) but after, apparently, a couple females were fertilized. Didn't even know they were there until my wife told me she thought she some plants in the spot from last October.

The seeds themselves I have had for over 20 years when I tried to grow indoors for kicks. The smoke wasn't all that great back then as I remember but a friend who tried it said he liked it so I kept them another grow. Cut to 20 yrs later.

They have been been moved from one storage area to another. From freezer to fridge, to cupboard to basement, back to freezer a dozen times since then. I just threw about 30 of them into a garden with great augmented soil last May. I was amazed that they nearly all sprouted and caused quite a bit of anguish as I got greedy and wanted to keep them all. But they are pure Sativa. Quality I won't know about until October.

RM3 said:

Have grown many, got a Dalat goin right now, 5 weeks in flower before it even showed sex, in week 8 now and no sign of buds yet. Growin true Sats is a whole nuther animal

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RM3: So little is available about cloning Sats that I have to believe I am not alone in having a very tough time trying to clone these things. I have a lot of seeds so unless I run into a 100% Sat grower who has gone b 4 me, and can shed some light on my question of taking the bottom shoots, I'll be trying ever more various ways to do so. If you run into any that do, please give me a shout out.

tyke1973 said:

It's the way i grow,i take clones the day of flowering,and then let them root through medium cube's normally 14 day's,these then become my next set i flower ,i put them under a t5 for 6 week,and there pretty much ready to flower by the time the set in flower are done.

If i want to run a other strain then i take cut's from a friend who hold's mothers just in case we ever need them,and do what i put above start the rooting the day of flowering,the plants end up around 2 ft tall and very bushy after a few topping's during the 6/7 week veg

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TYKE: Can you clarify? Are you running 100% SATIVA or not?

Yes i have run 100% sativa and done this its fine dude,Don't make no difference the genetic line cloning is cloning

4nikator said:

RM3: So little is available about cloning Sats that I have to believe I am not alone in having a very tough time trying to clone these things. I have a lot of seeds so unless I run into a 100% Sat grower who has gone b 4 me, and can shed some light on my question of taking the bottom shoots, I'll be trying ever more various ways to do so. If you run into any that do, please give me a shout out.

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The top new growth will clone faster as the bottom tends to get woody pretty quick and takes longer to clone. I do most of the Sats I grow from seed as I'm merely adding them into my breeding program. For info on Sats try reading this whole thread, the pics alone will take you to heaven,,,,,,,

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=278209

If he is cloning along side a flowering set he will be far better taking the bottom's other wise they may root too fast then he will struggle with height ,its the bottoms i hit for this reason 14 days to root that leaves you with 6 week of veg time,Take the top's and they will root in 7 days that is a week extra vertical growth.Unless you want them to root fast,

It's one of the reason's that i all ways show people i know who are just starting out,how to clone.I tell them to take a clone from the bottoms and one from the top,for the reason that the new growth will root faster,but when you first start cloning the wilting they do for 24/48 hour makes them panic into doing some thing stupid,thinking there dieing,where has the bottoms are more stable woody so stay more up right but may take 2 week to root rather than 7 days with the tops

RM3 said:

The top new growth will clone faster as the bottom tends to get woody pretty quick and takes longer to clone. I do most of the Sats I grow from seed as I'm merely adding them into my breeding program. For info on Sats try reading this whole thread, the pics alone will take you to heaven,,,,,,,

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=278209

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but rm3 is bang on the money with the info

tyke1973 said:

but rm3 is bang on the money with the info

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RM3 Is always on the money!!

I had a haze a few year back that i would have said was a pure sativa,i have also seen one in the canary islands that he said was a pure sativa

RM3 said:

The top new growth will clone faster as the bottom tends to get woody pretty quick and takes longer to clone. I do most of the Sats I grow from seed as I'm merely adding them into my breeding program. For info on Sats try reading this whole thread, the pics alone will take you to heaven,,,,,,,

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=278209

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very interesting...i would love to grow a pure haze, of the few strains i ran this year, moby dick is haze and white widow with the old school taste. do sativas tend to foxtail easily?

doobie57z said:

very interesting...i would love to grow a pure haze, of the few strains i ran this year, moby dick is haze and white widow with the old school taste. do sativas tend to foxtail easily?

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Where you think it comes from ?

not sure what you are asking. I have been growing a sativa dominant hybrid, cloned and flowered it 3 times now and each run foxtailed a little more. i can start a thread later, dont wanna be a thread jacker....