Does she look dead

some good info on all mix by member COZZ,
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all mix is quite hot i normally go light mix for a bit longer hit with the all mix for final pot up redy for flower, light mix gives you a bit more control,

It's an auto so I started with all mix but flushing her with 15 Litre water and leave her in tent for 5 days to see how she gets on.

When would I start seeing signs of recovery

Markob said:

When would I start seeing signs of recovery

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give it a few days and look for good green new growth. If it doesn't die, it's recovering

Will it show happy leaves again instead of droopy

if its an auto you may be kinda boned. by the time it recovers it will prob start flowering and wont get much more growth..

my 2¢

if you have another bean get it going and forget about that one, 2 months later you will havest a joint, hardly worth the time and energy.

go out and get some seedling starting soil and plant it in that for the first 3-4 weeks, once you start seeing signs of pre flowering get it into the more heavily fertilized soil

It may still grow to full strength u never know lol.

Got 3 more beans starting.

Markob said:

It may still grow to full strength u never know lol.

Got 3 more beans starting.

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What are planning to use as soil for the next 3?

Might get the light mix one.

Markob said:

Might get the light mix one.

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Good call.

I've finished all the flush now hopefully she picks up now.

RetiredMatthebrute said:

if its an auto you may be kinda boned. by the time it recovers it will prob start flowering and wont get much more growth..

my 2¢

if you have another bean get it going and forget about that one, 2 months later you will havest a joint, hardly worth the time and energy.

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I agree.. apparently not much room for error with respect to Autos. And from get go they don't need or like a lot of fertilizer until their 3 week of or later of life. They do not like to be overwatered either. So you may have pooched this one for any type of yeild.

Markob said:

It may still grow to full strength u never know lol.

Got 3 more beans starting.

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nah it will never reach its max potential now, Auto's are on a internal timer, healthy or sick in 30 days they start flower. 30-35 are your stretch days and 1-30 are your growth/vegetative stage..after day 35 they stop growing and start flowering..

if you have been overwatering/over feeding it and stunting growth you will never get that growth back, it will begin flowering in its time period and those days of vegetative growth are lost.

not trying to rain on your parade, just how it is m8.

if you have room to grow it out go for it, not saying you shouldn't but starting new ones now will help you get a better yield sooner instead of hoping the current one will grow to full strength..

my time frames are just a guess and do not depict actual time frames for all autoflowers. They are used as an example, some auto's veg longer and some have a shorter veg cycle.

noobs always think they are being clever growing autos as a first timer but as matt says, no real room for error.

at least with photoperiods mistakes in veg can be corrected and you will only lose time, with an auto every minute wasted is yield lost.

ghb said:

noobs always think they are being clever growing autos as a first timer but as matt says, no real room for error.

at least with photoperiods mistakes in veg can be corrected and you will only lose time, with an auto every minute wasted is yield lost.

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well I wouldn't call it wasted time as its a learning experience. what really bites my ass is these soils that are just way too saturated in fertilizers that make it difficult for people to grow.
but yes every mistake does hinder your yield.

personally I think some pro mix and decent EWC mixed at a 75/25 ratio is a good starter mix..people often make the mistake that seedling need food in the soil when in fact they have enough food stored in the seed to last them till second set of true leaves or longer. EWC are nice because they are mild and add life to your soil. Adding life to the soil early on is important if your using Organic nutes like bio bizz.

another common mistake people make is the nutrient "hype" that every plant is going to need suplimental nutrients, fact is most potting soils provide ample nutrition for a majority of the plants life. you may need to add a P-K booster at week 3-4 of flower and that's it. Most potting soils will support a medium sized plant with minimal suppliments. I started some seeds on 12/12 about 5 weeks ago in 3 gal pots with a spend used soil and EWC and I still don't have to feed them. im brewing a AACT right now which will give a little soil boost and replenish the soil bio but there is actually minimal fertilizers in the AACT.

RetiredMatthebrute said:

well I wouldn't call it wasted time as its a learning experience. what really bites my ass is these soils that are just way too saturated in fertilizers that make it difficult for people to grow.
but yes every mistake does hinder your yield.

personally I think some pro mix and decent EWC mixed at a 75/25 ratio is a good starter mix..people often make the mistake that seedling need food in the soil when in fact they have enough food stored in the seed to last them till second set of true leaves or longer. EWC are nice because they are mild and add life to your soil. Adding life to the soil early on is important if your using Organic nutes like bio bizz.

another common mistake people make is the nutrient "hype" that every plant is going to need suplimental nutrients, fact is most potting soils provide ample nutrition for a majority of the plants life. you may need to add a P-K booster at week 3-4 of flower and that's it. Most potting soils will support a medium sized plant with minimal suppliments. I started some seeds on 12/12 about 5 weeks ago in 3 gal pots with a spend used soil and EWC and I still don't have to feed them. im brewing a AACT right now which will give a little soil boost and replenish the soil bio but there is actually minimal fertilizers in the AACT.

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nice post, you really don't even need a p/k boost. another MJ forum myth.

chuck estevez said:

nice post, you really don't even need a p/k boost. another MJ forum myth.

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yeah its dependant on the soil you use..a well amended soil done right should be able to go the entire grow with 0 suplimentals. but say you start off in something like pro-mix amended with EWC, the EWC will carry you through a while but the soil will start going blank towards the middle of flower and you will need something to carry the rest of the way.

either way, plants NEED nutrition!! the Myth is that every medium needs suplimets when its not true, the key is to learn your soil and learn how to read your plants. if you have nice healthy plants then the need for supliments is not there but if you start seeing deficiencies you need to be able to spot them and add what is needed, and only what is needed.

I will admit that using suplimental fertilizers done the right way will keep the need to be able to read you plant away as they will always have it. but with adding come many more issues. most people don't realize it but every time you add something to the medium your adding a PH buffer of some form, you can PH your water all you want but if you continue to add buffers that are not being used the PH will change over time causing issues. if you amend a soil properly (or pick a pre amended potting soil) your only adding water so those buffers stay out and your PH usually maintains.

there are lots of published books out there, I would suggest getting one or two of them, one that is written on growing cannabis and another that focuses on the style growing your doing..

so a hydroponics book if your growing hydro or a organic gardening book if you want to grow organics.

books are good because they usually are written by someone who knows what they are talking about..the unfortunate problem with forums and especially forums that deal with growing cannabis is that they are largely populated with people who are stoned (no offense) and when your stoned you get ideas that are brilliant (especially to someone who is stoned as well) and then they circulate..the biggest problem is stoners tend to overthink things that are normally simple and don't need overthinking. again im not trying to insult anyone for being stoned..i just think the theorycrafting on horticulture should be done in a lab and not a stoners bedroom while watching weeds.

Yes, photo plants have a huge range for recovering from mistakes... you can simply continue to veg them and baby them for a longer period of time and get them back to where they should be.
I did photos for a year and still am. Now have been experimenting with autos. While I haven't had issues with ferts or over watering.. I have had a couple that popped out all retarded and those ones just are not going to get me anything. And ended up with males in 4. But they look nice and healthy!
Pop a couple more and leave this be to do her thing. That's what I've done. I use ProMIX from my hyrdo shop and it is light and airy. Autos apparently like good drainage and not to be over watered.

If you flush with pre fertilized soil wouldn't that just be releasing more nutes?