Does this look ok?

Just wondering if you guys think this is looking ok the leaves are decent tly green but hanging low. If you need any other info about my setup or feeding just let me know. I do see Seconary and tertiary leaves emerging but just don't like the overall form

Can you turn off light or use shades in front of camera and add/take a top down pix closer? Right now I feel like Im laying on the floor 3 feet away trying to see it. Others will likely ask similar or maybe call it from that one. Add details please about set up if possible.

here is a top down pic. im using a sun system 150w hps three feet above plant. exhale co2 bag beside plant. feeding with compost tea with added sea green, bio weed, tritons trawl, worm castings and hi brix mol. using tea every other feeding and water otherwise. planted in 100% bcuzz coco and in a 1 gallon smart pot. temp ranges between 73 and 77 and humidity between 35 and 50%. light is on 24/7 and air is exchanged in box 5+ times per minute. seeds are crop king white widow x girl scout cookies feminized.

light in pic from camera flash

also transplanted to the smart pot yesterday as roots were shooting out of all my drainage holes in the solo cup it was in

MoistBeaver said:

Just wondering if you guys think this is looking ok the leaves are decent tly green but hanging low. If you need any other info about my setup or feeding just let me know. I do see Seconary and tertiary leaves emerging but just don't like the overall form

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what type of soil mix do u have .......how many gallons
how offen are u watering it ......when was the last time u water it compared to the date of these pics
what source is your water (city or well)
what feed have u given it
what is the temp in your area.......the temp of the air around the plant
what is your light source
what is the height of the light from the plant
do u have air movement in the grow area.......a fan moving the air around like a breeze

and no something is off about the plant ......good eye answer those ?s and i will help narrow it down to troubles (odds are something simple u over looked in your work)

justugh said:

what type of soil mix do u have .......how many gallons
how offen are u watering it ......when was the last time u water it compared to the date of these pics
what source is your water (city or well)
what feed have u given it
what is the temp in your area.......the temp of the air around the plant
what is your light source
what is the height of the light from the plant
do u have air movement in the grow area.......a fan moving the air around like a breeze

and no something is off about the plant ......good eye answer those ?s and i will help narrow it down to troubles (odds are something simple u over looked in your work)

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all of those q's should be answered above

Well if you just transplanted it yesterday I would give it a few days to see if its going to perk back up before you get too worried over it.

MoistBeaver said:

all of those q's should be answered above

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not all

i can see 3 problems now

justugh said:

not all

i can see 3 problems now

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water is distilled bought from store. watering is roughly every 2 days but i just do as needed.

keeping ph around 6 on non tea waterings

4 odds are u did not cook the soil to break down the goodies

1 your light is way to high ...........12 inches about the plant .....move it up as it grows
2 your soil size is way to small .......it should be in atleast a 3 gallon ......the size of the planter is linked to the amount of water it has to use .....1 gallon planter is crap pint maybe a quart
3 your feed compost tea is weak .......it is ment for super soil to get the roots in and feeding
4 the soil u mixed .......it is only parts and i sawl no epson salts /carbon listed to kick start the process .......it is not cooked not fully mixed up

since i just put it in the 1 gallon should i wait to transplant again? and what do you mean by cooking the soil i am just using the 100% coco straight from the bag into the pot and drenching it with the tea. also should i be using fertilizers of some sort or how can i keep using the organic ingredients

is canna coco a and b a good product i feel my feeding is lacking

MoistBeaver said:

water is distilled bought from store. watering is roughly every 2 days but i just do as needed.

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ok your water distilled water is ok but it gets up in price and a bitch to cart around.......save some of the jugs
take the jugs and fill them with hot water from the tap .......take them and place them in the sun for 72 hours .........what u have just done is pruged out all the chemicals in the city water along with oxygenated the water......those jugs have a 8% transfer rate u just need to keep them in the sun so the pores all the transfer of the gases (u will see bubble form inside the jug just flick it more will be there in few hours)

u are over watering it ..........every 2 days for a plant that small in a planter that small the soil is staying to wet so the N transfer from the soil to roots is stunted
change it over to a larger planter ......a 3 gallon once it is in there u water it one time with the water u mad up (the oxygen in the water will help)......a 3 gallon planter max water rentention is about 1/2 gallon .........at this stage of the plants life u only need to give it 1 quart of water about every 3 days with your temps

MoistBeaver said:

since i just put it in the 1 gallon should i wait to transplant again? and what do you mean by cooking the soil i am just using the 100% coco straight from the bag into the pot and drenching it with the tea. also should i be using fertilizers of some sort or how can i keep using the organic ingredients

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i would say do it in next 24 hours ......a bigger planter idealy the last planter u want it to be in until u cut it

yes feed .........here a one in all buy organic kit
http://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Organics-Go-Box/dp/B004PS4B08
it has everything u need for a good plant in the box it does several plants but as it is organic the feed has a shelf life of like 9 10 months if kept cold ......after that they break down and lose power

there are things called pippettes basically plastic eye droppers......they make mixing up feed easy order 1 ml and 3 mls (500 count has lasted me 3 years)
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_sc_0_6?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=pipettes&sprefix=pippet,aps,184

the feed plan is on the box ......u mix in the number of mls to 1 gallon of water shake it and pour on the soil .......this stuff does not keep once u mix it.... it gets used or the rest gets dumped out


cooking the soil is a term used when u add things like u did to the soil ........they need to be broken down some so the plants can intake them .......when u get a chance look up Subcool's super soil ....they have a 2014 verison too it will explain it all in better detail .........

MoistBeaver said:

is canna coco a and b a good product i feel my feeding is lacking

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it is a good line of products

but u have to make sure u buy the complete set for the feed plan ..........if u want u can skip the one i showed u can get there whole line for their feed plan

this is your first time so u fallow the feed plan they outlined ........this is your baseline plant so next one u do of that strain u can tweak the soil and feed so it does better

look up their feed plan on line then make sure u have each one for the plan they lay out for u.....as i see the kit i showed u have several differnet things that are used at different times to make the plants do well

a good side product

thrive or b-52
they are destressers and vits for the plants it helps with shock and other thing s ........one or the other will do they both seem to have same reactions when i use them

i just ordered the gh org kit you suggested. should i use this in place of the tea i am doing (i am aerating it using an o2 pump) or use both?

MoistBeaver said:

i just ordered the gh org kit you suggested. should i use this in place of the tea i am doing (i am aerating it using an o2 pump) or use both?

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ok the tea is going to be good for the micros in the soil .......as they are brewing them in the tea .....it also adds some power to the plant but not as much as ppl think .....the power comes from the soil augments

to be honest .........this whole grow is a little wackie with what u have added to soil ....so this plant might be a monster or show signs of needing something else later down the road

the organic feed u just order is good it has some power to it ( the liguid fish wow ....just know it is stinky if it gets on u it does not wash out u have to let the sink just pass to get off hands) .......i am all about experiments go for it

feed with system then next time water with tea .........cut out the water only part as the tea is weaker then the feed

if u can oxygenate the water before u mix up the feed that would be good .......as for the tea it should have system that is adding air to it anyway to brew the micros

this is all organic system .......so u have no need to worry about flushing or phing the soil /water u give it ......the micros do it for u ......the smoke will come out clean u just have to replace the feed and tea with just water for the last 10 days to week before u cut it down (no chemical residue to get out just need to make sure force plant to use N in own cells )