doggies nuts seeds

Kaptain Kron

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motoracer110

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no, i think that your growing conditions make the weed not the seed. genetics do have a part to play, but with the correct growing condition you can turn ok weed into bomb ass weed. IMO :weed:
 

THESkunkMunkie

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The Doggies Nuts are charging so much because their seed strains are the direct cuts from the actual plants that won all the cannabis cups!!. i.e Northern lights #1, Bubblegum #1, Blueberry #1, White Rhino #1, etc... (Supposedly!!)
TOTAL BS IMO!! No seeds are worth the high price these guy's are charging, even "Mr Nice Seeds" are way cheaper than DN's with tried & tested quality seeds too, so why pay more than you have to.... I'd steer well clear of Doggies Nuts it's a wonder they're actually selling them seeds of theirs!!.....
 

Kaptain Kron

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yea i was trying to figure out how they could ask so much. Its impossible for the seeds to be identical to the cuts.... i dont care what mother u have you are going to get varying pheno types i have just as much chance to get the same pheno of NL from a pack of mr nice seeds as i do from the doggies nuts seeds if it is actually NL you see what i am saying so them saying they can charge so much because their mothers are CC cuts is fucking bullshit that will have no large effect on overall quality if at all. NL is NL you just have to weed out the pheno types anyone who grows with seed knows that.

And also in response to your growin environment is more important than genetics is complete bullshit. If you had the sickest setup ever and you were growin some stress your gonna come out with some stress. given it may be the best stress you ever smoked but was it worth throwing 500 bucks at to make it the best stress ever when you could have just bought two zips of some dank? or some proper genetics and grown ur own dank?

Glad to see other people are on the same page about these seeds its ridiculous someone needs to do something about those guys business practices its just a disgrace to the community to be selling seeds for over a 100 bucks a pack in my mind
 

THESkunkMunkie

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yea i was trying to figure out how they could ask so much. Its impossible for the seeds to be identical to the cuts.... i dont care what mother u have you are going to get varying pheno types i have just as much chance to get the same pheno of NL from a pack of mr nice seeds as i do from the doggies nuts seeds if it is actually NL you see what i am saying so them saying they can charge so much because their mothers are CC cuts is fucking bullshit that will have no large effect on overall quality if at all. NL is NL you just have to weed out the pheno types anyone who grows with seed knows that.
You don't have to tell me that mate, but there are noobs to growing and buying seeds who may fall for the BS & hype on this company's so called genetic's....
 

Kaptain Kron

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i hear that brotha i was appalled at the prices.... absolutely appalled.... i checked out the link to your grow have you started flowering out that tahoe og yet? i had a cut off of an original tahoe og NOT from seed i had a cut of the clone only version and i am wondering if you have smoked some of the clone only version tahoe (i have) and i was wondering how it compared to this version by cali connection as i am VERY interested to get my baby back. The pigs took her from me, fuckin dicks took so many clone only strains that i lost..... FOREVER.... So im really hopin that tahoe og comes out like the clone i had the leaf structure looks a lil different which is kind of dissappointing as my tahoe og had MASSIVE leaves yours seem a little skinnier than mine were....
 

Brick Top

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no, i think that your growing conditions make the weed not the seed. genetics do have a part to play, but with the correct growing condition you can turn ok weed into bomb ass weed. IMO :weed:
The only thing that high quality genetics guarantee is if you are skilled and if you provide the right conditions/environment for your plants you can reach or nearly reach the full genetic potential of the strain. If you fail, your results will not be all that impressive.

But at the same time all that average or low grade genetics guarantee is if you provide the right conditions/environment for your plants you can reach or nearly reach that much lower genetic potential. In other words, at their very best they will only be so good, but if you fail, your results will have pretty much been a waste of your time, money and effort.

No matter what someone does they will never be able to grow a plant or plants beyond their genetic limits and turn average or low grade genetics into high quality. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit no matter how much mayonnaise you add.

If someone purchases high quality high dollar genetics and keeps a mother or two, over the next few years they will be way ahead both cost-wise and quality-wise than the people who keep shelling out $40.00 to $75.00 per pack of seeds and keeps growing from seed that are of lower genetic quality. If those people keep mothers too then they would be ahead money-wise, but they would be far behind quality-wise.

I wouldn't say that Doggies Nuts seeds are a good value and I would not say they are not a good value ... but I would never say they are not a good value just because some are priced beyond the financial reach of most people here. A Bentley is priced beyond the reach of most, if not all, people here, but I doubt many would say it is not a good vehicle just because it's Monroney sticker has a higher price on it than the Monroney sticker on their Hyundai had.
 

Kaptain Kron

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brick top are you serious bro I could build a fucking grow room for the price of one pack of doggies nuts seeds those ARE a fucking rip off i understand what you are saying about genetics and i agree but come the fuck on man you are giving these guys WAY too much credit. I can go to Nirvana and get some KILL genetics that i can go straight to the clinic with if grown right and flip it for 3.5k a elbow all day no problem. SO that being said how can you tell me my 25 dollar pack of seeds isnt as good as a hundred dollar pack of seeds. Chances are that yes normally they wont be but you have to do your research on what breeder you buy from i honestly wouldnt buy from any more than about 4 or 5 breeders, nirvana and TGA being two of them, DJ short another, serious seeds, th seeds, cali connection and there may be one or two more im blanking on oh, mr nice, and greenhouse, soma as well and sensi thats about it honestly and i am very picky about what i order from who. But im sorry there is no way on the face of this EARTh you are going to convince me that while DN seeds may not be a great deal they are OK? Come fuckin on man what a joke. Thats like saying your fucking Lexus is so much better than my toyota because its a lexus when they are really made by the same company........TOYOTA..... Northern lights from DN is the same thing as NL from nirvana NL is NL is NL IS NL man its genetics ok? If it wasnt NL it wouldnt be called NL now would it.... It would be called something else. What to look for when purchasing seeds is what the germ rate is and how many generally pop female... that is all that really makes one company so much better than the other unless they are lying about the genetic background of their strains. That being said, go buy your seeds from some place affordable and reputable, like NIRVANA, SENSI seeds, MR. NICE, Greenhouse (arjan is a douche though... i hate him) those companys are all known to have good viable seeds. Stick with em and be happy prices are good not too ridiculous although some can get pricey but NOT anywhere near DN prices for THE SAME FUCKIN SHIT especially if DN is supposedly getting their mother cuts from CC winning plants. Because guess what where do those cuts come from? THE COMPANY THAT SUBMITTED THE STRAIN TO THE CC FOR JUDGING!!!! come one man use your brain....
 

growone

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the reason the DN seeds are selling for that price is pretty simple, some people are buying them
from what i read, these guys are one step above pollen chuckers, you can get crosses from seedbay for 1/20 of the price(or less) and probably get better results
but until people stop buying them, they'll keep plucking any pigeons that want to be plucked
 

Brick Top

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brick top are you serious bro I could build a fucking grow room for the price of one pack of doggies nuts seeds those ARE a fucking rip off i understand what you are saying about genetics and i agree but come the fuck on man you are giving these guys WAY too much credit. I can go to Nirvana and get some KILL genetics that i can go straight to the clinic with if grown right and flip it for 3.5k a elbow all day no problem. SO that being said how can you tell me my 25 dollar pack of seeds isnt as good as a hundred dollar pack of seeds. Chances are that yes normally they wont be but you have to do your research on what breeder you buy from i honestly wouldnt buy from any more than about 4 or 5 breeders, nirvana and TGA being two of them, DJ short another, serious seeds, th seeds, cali connection and there may be one or two more im blanking on oh, mr nice, and greenhouse, soma as well and sensi thats about it honestly and i am very picky about what i order from who. But im sorry there is no way on the face of this EARTh you are going to convince me that while DN seeds may not be a great deal they are OK? Come fuckin on man what a joke. Thats like saying your fucking Lexus is so much better than my toyota because its a lexus when they are really made by the same company........TOYOTA..... Northern lights from DN is the same thing as NL from nirvana NL is NL is NL IS NL man its genetics ok? If it wasnt NL it wouldnt be called NL now would it.... It would be called something else. What to look for when purchasing seeds is what the germ rate is and how many generally pop female... that is all that really makes one company so much better than the other unless they are lying about the genetic background of their strains. That being said, go buy your seeds from some place affordable and reputable, like NIRVANA, SENSI seeds, MR. NICE, Greenhouse (arjan is a douche though... i hate him) those companys are all known to have good viable seeds. Stick with em and be happy prices are good not too ridiculous although some can get pricey but NOT anywhere near DN prices for THE SAME FUCKIN SHIT especially if DN is supposedly getting their mother cuts from CC winning plants. Because guess what where do those cuts come from? THE COMPANY THAT SUBMITTED THE STRAIN TO THE CC FOR JUDGING!!!! come one man use your brain....

I am totally serious. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit no matter how much mayonnaise you add, which is saying the grow room you claim you could build for the same price as some Doggies Nuts seeds and using Nirvana genetics could never result in the same success as using top quality genetics. The same goes for another breeder you mentioned who I would not give so much as one single small piece of dry cat shit for any strain in his line. Nothing you, or anyone, could ever do will be enough to make it go beyond its genetic limits, and both mentioned are highly genetically limited.

Once you mentioned the breeders I knew you knew nothing about true top quality genetics.

Thats like saying your fucking Lexus is so much better than my toyota because its a lexus when they are really made by the same company........TOYOTA.
That was laughable. I used to be a new car dealer and regardless of the overall ownership of a car company, and it's various branches/brand names, there are many, MANY differences between the low end line and the high end line. Some are minor things like using the same grade foam in seats that are used in airliners as opposed to a low grade foam that will break down to to high tech things not available in the low end model and safety features not available in the low end model and performance and handling in the high end model that the low end model is nowhere near being, and the list goes on and on.

You seem to be one of those people who would buy a Toyota and attempt to fool themselves into believing they have the same high quality high grade vehicle as a Lexus, just as you have done with genetics.


Additional:

It was more than evident that you missed the following but of my previous message:


I wouldn't say that Doggies Nuts seeds are a good value and I would not say they are not a good value ... but I would never say they are not a good value just because some are priced beyond the financial reach of most people here.

The reason it is evident that you missed the above is because you said; "I could build a fucking grow room for the price of one pack of doggies nuts seeds those ARE a fucking rip off.."

You based your personal opinion strictly on the price of Doggies Nuts seeds and the price of Doggies Nuts seeds alone ... and as I said; "I wouldn't say that Doggies Nuts seeds are a good value and I would not say they are not a good value ... but I would never say they are not a good value just because some are priced beyond the financial reach of most people here.

I made no statement of value for the dollar about Doggies Nuts seeds, though you did react as if I did. I only said doing what you have done, proclaiming them to be; "a fucking rip off," based only on price should never be how anyone decides what is quality and what is not quality.
 

THESkunkMunkie

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i hear that brotha i was appalled at the prices.... absolutely appalled.... i checked out the link to your grow have you started flowering out that tahoe og yet? i had a cut off of an original tahoe og NOT from seed i had a cut of the clone only version and i am wondering if you have smoked some of the clone only version tahoe (i have) and i was wondering how it compared to this version by cali connection as i am VERY interested to get my baby back. The pigs took her from me, fuckin dicks took so many clone only strains that i lost..... FOREVER.... So im really hopin that tahoe og comes out like the clone i had the leaf structure looks a lil different which is kind of dissappointing as my tahoe og had MASSIVE leaves yours seem a little skinnier than mine were....
No mate I have not started flowering yet I'm gonna veg them another 5 week to let my cheese quake catch up and to get max flavour out of my 2 tahoe's. I have not had the chance to smoke it yet either as I'm in the UK!! Getting seeds is the only way I can grow these great former clone only strains. I'm also growing Deadhead OG from cali conn' I've got a grow journal up here on those.... And yeah mate my tahoe's do seem to be more sativa in leaf size...
 

Kaptain Kron

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NOOOOOO DAMNIT agh this is frustrating as our plants structure looks close but the leaf shape is way off from when i had my cut, I had some FAT FAT indica leaves oh well ill probably still pick up a pack and try em anyways and i guess then ill know for sure if its anywhere close to the real thing
 

Kaptain Kron

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I am totally serious. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit no matter how much mayonnaise you add, which is saying the grow room you claim you could build for the same price as some Doggies Nuts seeds and using Nirvana genetics could never result in the same success as using top quality genetics. The same goes for another breeder you mentioned who I would not give so much as one single small piece of dry cat shit for any strain in his line. Nothing you, or anyone, could ever do will be enough to make it go beyond its genetic limits, and both mentioned are highly genetically limited.

Once you mentioned the breeders I knew you knew nothing about true top quality genetics.

That was laughable. I used to be a new car dealer and regardless of the overall ownership of a car company, and it's various branches/brand names, there are many, MANY differences between the low end line and the high end line. Some are minor things like using the same grade foam in seats that are used in airliners as opposed to a low grade foam that will break down to to high tech things not available in the low end model and safety features not available in the low end model and performance and handling in the high end model that the low end model is nowhere near being, and the list goes on and on.

You seem to be one of those people who would buy a Toyota and attempt to fool themselves into believing they have the same high quality high grade vehicle as a Lexus, just as you have done with genetics.


Additional:

It was more than evident that you missed the following but of my previous message:


I wouldn't say that Doggies Nuts seeds are a good value and I would not say they are not a good value ... but I would never say they are not a good value just because some are priced beyond the financial reach of most people here.

The reason it is evident that you missed the above is because you said; "I could build a fucking grow room for the price of one pack of doggies nuts seeds those ARE a fucking rip off.."

You based your personal opinion strictly on the price of Doggies Nuts seeds and the price of Doggies Nuts seeds alone ... and as I said; "I wouldn't say that Doggies Nuts seeds are a good value and I would not say they are not a good value ... but I would never say they are not a good value just because some are priced beyond the financial reach of most people here.

I made no statement of value for the dollar about Doggies Nuts seeds, though you did react as if I did. I only said doing what you have done, proclaiming them to be; "a fucking rip off," based only on price should never be how anyone decides what is quality and what is not quality.
I would watch what you say i make my living as a mechanic i know what is in a lexus and whats in a toyota its the same car so what they use nicer foam in the seats, thats like saying doggies nuts uses nicer packaging on the labels. I have genetics from nirvana that have won CC so how can you say that my genetics arent as good as the doggies nuts ones? What do you really know about growing bricktop every single one of your posts is a disagreement with what someone else says lol its funny
 

Kaptain Kron

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what great godly genetics are you picking up that are so much better than what i am putting out, patients in my area have no problem with my product.
 
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