DIY-HP-LED
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If he has to be extradited, it will mean being held in custody in NY on Rikers pending trial!
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DIY-HP-LED
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That is what Donald's lawyer is telling him whether he wants to hear it or not.
Fogdog
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You are simply stating what has been said, which is one way to look at it and not wrong. That said, Trump tells his lawyers what to do, not the other way around. Following the rule of law is inconsistent with everything Trump has done up to now. Predicting the future from what he's done in the past, I'm expecting him to make a scene and create a spectacle out of his arrest, assuming that is what eventually happens.
cannabineer
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I expect drama. It’s his thing. “Will be wild.”
DIY-HP-LED
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If he creates a ruckus in Florida, it will be meatball Ron's problem to get him to NY and if NY has to extradite him, they will hold him in custody upon arraignment pending trial. His lawyer must have told him the quickest way to a jail cell is a boneheaded move like that, it's not like DeSantis wants to protect him and stabbing Donald in the back by extraditing him would go over badly with Donald's base. If Donald doesn't show up in NY, there will be a bench warrant issued and extradition proceedings will begin, happens every day. Once he gets to NY after that shit, he won't be released unless found innocent at his state trial. It looks bad to the judge when he has to show up in court in cuffs after screaming and resisting a warrant, more so if the prosecutors bring up his threats to them and of civil unrest, especially any caused by his apprehension and attributable to him. After indictment the judge owns Donald's ass until the end of the trial.
DIY-HP-LED
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I think by busting him in NY, they are delimiting those possibilities and it will cramp Donald's style. Donald is not popular with the public in NYC and that is where the trial will be, his fans could be greatly outnumbered and anybody carrying a sign for Donald outside the courthouse in NY would have to endure a soul crushing amount of verbal abuse!
They generally aren't the most stable people either and guns are illegal in NYC.
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cannabineer
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You completely ignore Fogdog’s likely premise that he will force a scene in Florida. Why?I think by busting him in NY, they are delimiting those possibilities and it will cramp Donald's style. Donald is not popular with the public in NYC and that is where trial will be, his fans could be greatly outnumbered and anybody carrying a sign for Donald outside the courthouse in NY would have to endure a soul crushing amount of verbal abuse!
DIY-HP-LED
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Because it is the quickest way to a jail cell for him and his lawyers would be dancing on his desk, when it comes to prison, he tends to listen more closely. Donald wants to delay going to prison as much as he can, then surrounding Mar A Largo with his fans in a siege would be the fastest way to put him in one when he does get to NY. It would definitely put meatball Ron on the spot, he has to enforce the warrant.
I hope he goes quietly, ya need him running around like chucky with a knife inside the GOP while he delays his various trials by any means he can.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
His record of reasoning things out like that is so bad, I doubt your scenario. He will go for max drama now, if his past Sharpie-logic behavior is a guide.
DIY-HP-LED
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Well, we won't have long to wait!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
They’ve scrubbed launches at minus one second.Well, we won't have long to wait!
Roger A. Shrubber
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no, it won't. desantis isn't required to do a fucking thing, except sign off on it, or not sign off on it...he can take up to 60 days to make a decision, or The New York prosecutors could ask for a writ of extradition from a judge in florida and sidestep desantis completely.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i don't think he will...When it comes to matters of self preservation, he can be reasoned with.
His lawyer will have made it clear to him that any grand gestures, especially any that lead to violence against law enforcement officers will go EXTREMELY poorly for him.
DIY-HP-LED
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I'll say one thing for Donald, he sure stimulates an education in US criminal law, he will be a legend in future law schools...
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I just don’t know. Considering the things he’s done in plain sight, notably his many-layered coup attempt and insistence on bullshit motives, I won’t bet a beer on his suddenly being prudent now.
The one thing that this current situation could do is discharge the legal kryptonite surrounding the lack of precedent for indicting a former Potus. I still expect big things from Georgia and twofold from DOJ: classified documents malfeasance, and of course seditious conspiracy. That’s the one on which our national survival ultimately rests.
DIY-HP-LED
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The hits will keep coming, from NY, GA and federally.
printer
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Republican lawmakers blast potential Trump indictment as ‘politically motivated,’ ‘abuse of power’
Republican lawmakers blasted the prospect of former President Trump being indicted after he revealed he expects to be arrested next week, calling the potential move “politically motivated” and an “abuse of power.”
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said he would direct relevant committees to investigate if any federal funding is being used to “subvert our democracy by interfering in elections with politically motivated prosecutions.”
“Here we go again — an outrageous abuse of power by a radical DA who lets violent criminals walk as he pursues political vengeance against President Trump,” he tweeted, referring to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
Condemnations of the potential charges from McCarthy and other Republicans came after Trump posted on Truth Social early on Saturday that “illegal leaks” indicate he will be arrested on Tuesday.
Bragg appears to be close to deciding on whether to file charges against Trump after having invited the former president to testify before the grand jury he has convened this past week. Trump’s attorney has said Trump would not accept the invitation.
The district attorney’s office has been investigating a payment that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen made to adult film star Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 presidential election for her to remain silent about an affair she had with Trump. Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to a campaign finance violation stemming from the payment and other charges and served a prison sentence.
Cohen has said he paid Daniels at Trump’s direction. Trump has acknowledged that he reimbursed Cohen for the payment but said it was unrelated to his campaign finances.
Top Trump allies have joined McCarthy in denouncing the probe as politically motivated and siding with the former president, who has insisted he has not done anything wrong.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) tweeted that Trump will “win even bigger” than he already was already going to if Bragg indicts him and “did nothing wrong.” She said any Republicans who support the former president’s “persecution” will face consequences.
“And those Republicans that stand by and cheer for his persecution or do nothing to stop it will be exposed to the people and will be remembered, scorned, and punished by the base,” Greene said.
Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) said he has been asked multiple times if Trump being indicted would cause him to take away his endorsement of Trump in the 2024 presidential election. Trump endorsed Vance while he was running in the GOP primary for an open Senate seat in Ohio.
“The answer is: hell no. A politically motivated prosecution makes the argument for Trump stronger. We simply don’t have a real country if justice depends on politics,” Vance said.
Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), the chairwoman of the House Republican Conference, said in a statement that the “Radical Left” will have Trump arrested because they know they cannot defeat him in an election. She said this is “unAmerican” and reaching a “dangerous new low of Third World countries.”
“What these corrupt Leftist prosecutors like Alvin Bragg and their Socialist allies fail to understand is that America First Patriots have never been so energized to exercise their constitutional rights to peacefully organize and VOTE at the ballot box to save our great republic,” she said.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said at Vision 24, a conservative conference in South Carolina, on Saturday that Bragg has “done more” to help Trump get reelected than anyone else in the country.
“They’re making stuff up that they never used against anybody because they hate Trump,” Graham said.
He said the case is moving forward because “they’re afraid of Trump.”
GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, a conservative entrepreneur, said Trump being indicted would be a “national disaster.”
“If a Republican prosecutor in 2004 had used a campaign finance technicality to arrest then-candidate John Kerry while [President George W.] Bush & [Vice President Dick] Cheney were in power, liberals would have cried foul – and rightly so,” Ramaswamy said.
He said indicting Trump will undermine trust in the country’s electoral system and Bragg should reconsider charges against him. He argued that the case would not have led to criminal prosecution for anyone else and would only have been a misdemeanor at most instead of a felony.
“Our entire country is skating on thin ice right now & we cannot afford to politicize the justice system or else we will reach our breaking point,” he said.
Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) also argued that the case is not strong, saying it is based on a “strained, convoluted legal theory.”
thehill.com
Republican lawmakers blasted the prospect of former President Trump being indicted after he revealed he expects to be arrested next week, calling the potential move “politically motivated” and an “abuse of power.”
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said he would direct relevant committees to investigate if any federal funding is being used to “subvert our democracy by interfering in elections with politically motivated prosecutions.”
“Here we go again — an outrageous abuse of power by a radical DA who lets violent criminals walk as he pursues political vengeance against President Trump,” he tweeted, referring to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
Condemnations of the potential charges from McCarthy and other Republicans came after Trump posted on Truth Social early on Saturday that “illegal leaks” indicate he will be arrested on Tuesday.
Bragg appears to be close to deciding on whether to file charges against Trump after having invited the former president to testify before the grand jury he has convened this past week. Trump’s attorney has said Trump would not accept the invitation.
The district attorney’s office has been investigating a payment that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen made to adult film star Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 presidential election for her to remain silent about an affair she had with Trump. Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to a campaign finance violation stemming from the payment and other charges and served a prison sentence.
Cohen has said he paid Daniels at Trump’s direction. Trump has acknowledged that he reimbursed Cohen for the payment but said it was unrelated to his campaign finances.
Top Trump allies have joined McCarthy in denouncing the probe as politically motivated and siding with the former president, who has insisted he has not done anything wrong.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) tweeted that Trump will “win even bigger” than he already was already going to if Bragg indicts him and “did nothing wrong.” She said any Republicans who support the former president’s “persecution” will face consequences.
“And those Republicans that stand by and cheer for his persecution or do nothing to stop it will be exposed to the people and will be remembered, scorned, and punished by the base,” Greene said.
Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) said he has been asked multiple times if Trump being indicted would cause him to take away his endorsement of Trump in the 2024 presidential election. Trump endorsed Vance while he was running in the GOP primary for an open Senate seat in Ohio.
“The answer is: hell no. A politically motivated prosecution makes the argument for Trump stronger. We simply don’t have a real country if justice depends on politics,” Vance said.
Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), the chairwoman of the House Republican Conference, said in a statement that the “Radical Left” will have Trump arrested because they know they cannot defeat him in an election. She said this is “unAmerican” and reaching a “dangerous new low of Third World countries.”
“What these corrupt Leftist prosecutors like Alvin Bragg and their Socialist allies fail to understand is that America First Patriots have never been so energized to exercise their constitutional rights to peacefully organize and VOTE at the ballot box to save our great republic,” she said.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said at Vision 24, a conservative conference in South Carolina, on Saturday that Bragg has “done more” to help Trump get reelected than anyone else in the country.
“They’re making stuff up that they never used against anybody because they hate Trump,” Graham said.
He said the case is moving forward because “they’re afraid of Trump.”
GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, a conservative entrepreneur, said Trump being indicted would be a “national disaster.”
“If a Republican prosecutor in 2004 had used a campaign finance technicality to arrest then-candidate John Kerry while [President George W.] Bush & [Vice President Dick] Cheney were in power, liberals would have cried foul – and rightly so,” Ramaswamy said.
He said indicting Trump will undermine trust in the country’s electoral system and Bragg should reconsider charges against him. He argued that the case would not have led to criminal prosecution for anyone else and would only have been a misdemeanor at most instead of a felony.
“Our entire country is skating on thin ice right now & we cannot afford to politicize the justice system or else we will reach our breaking point,” he said.
Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) also argued that the case is not strong, saying it is based on a “strained, convoluted legal theory.”
Republican lawmakers blast potential Trump indictment as ‘politically motivated,’ ‘abuse of power’
Republican lawmakers blasted the prospect of former President Trump being indicted after he revealed he expects to be arrested next week, calling the potential move “politically motivated” and an “…
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Roger A. Shrubber
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wow...all those horrible, shitty deplorable people endorsing another shitty, horrible foul person...it warms the cockles of my colon...fucking pieces of shit.Republican lawmakers blast potential Trump indictment as ‘politically motivated,’ ‘abuse of power’
Republican lawmakers blasted the prospect of former President Trump being indicted after he revealed he expects to be arrested next week, calling the potential move “politically motivated” and an “abuse of power.”
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said he would direct relevant committees to investigate if any federal funding is being used to “subvert our democracy by interfering in elections with politically motivated prosecutions.”
“Here we go again — an outrageous abuse of power by a radical DA who lets violent criminals walk as he pursues political vengeance against President Trump,” he tweeted, referring to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
Condemnations of the potential charges from McCarthy and other Republicans came after Trump posted on Truth Social early on Saturday that “illegal leaks” indicate he will be arrested on Tuesday.
Bragg appears to be close to deciding on whether to file charges against Trump after having invited the former president to testify before the grand jury he has convened this past week. Trump’s attorney has said Trump would not accept the invitation.
The district attorney’s office has been investigating a payment that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen made to adult film star Stormy Daniels ahead of the 2016 presidential election for her to remain silent about an affair she had with Trump. Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to a campaign finance violation stemming from the payment and other charges and served a prison sentence.
Cohen has said he paid Daniels at Trump’s direction. Trump has acknowledged that he reimbursed Cohen for the payment but said it was unrelated to his campaign finances.
Top Trump allies have joined McCarthy in denouncing the probe as politically motivated and siding with the former president, who has insisted he has not done anything wrong.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) tweeted that Trump will “win even bigger” than he already was already going to if Bragg indicts him and “did nothing wrong.” She said any Republicans who support the former president’s “persecution” will face consequences.
“And those Republicans that stand by and cheer for his persecution or do nothing to stop it will be exposed to the people and will be remembered, scorned, and punished by the base,” Greene said.
Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) said he has been asked multiple times if Trump being indicted would cause him to take away his endorsement of Trump in the 2024 presidential election. Trump endorsed Vance while he was running in the GOP primary for an open Senate seat in Ohio.
“The answer is: hell no. A politically motivated prosecution makes the argument for Trump stronger. We simply don’t have a real country if justice depends on politics,” Vance said.
Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), the chairwoman of the House Republican Conference, said in a statement that the “Radical Left” will have Trump arrested because they know they cannot defeat him in an election. She said this is “unAmerican” and reaching a “dangerous new low of Third World countries.”
“What these corrupt Leftist prosecutors like Alvin Bragg and their Socialist allies fail to understand is that America First Patriots have never been so energized to exercise their constitutional rights to peacefully organize and VOTE at the ballot box to save our great republic,” she said.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said at Vision 24, a conservative conference in South Carolina, on Saturday that Bragg has “done more” to help Trump get reelected than anyone else in the country.
“They’re making stuff up that they never used against anybody because they hate Trump,” Graham said.
He said the case is moving forward because “they’re afraid of Trump.”
GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, a conservative entrepreneur, said Trump being indicted would be a “national disaster.”
“If a Republican prosecutor in 2004 had used a campaign finance technicality to arrest then-candidate John Kerry while [President George W.] Bush & [Vice President Dick] Cheney were in power, liberals would have cried foul – and rightly so,” Ramaswamy said.
He said indicting Trump will undermine trust in the country’s electoral system and Bragg should reconsider charges against him. He argued that the case would not have led to criminal prosecution for anyone else and would only have been a misdemeanor at most instead of a felony.
“Our entire country is skating on thin ice right now & we cannot afford to politicize the justice system or else we will reach our breaking point,” he said.
Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) also argued that the case is not strong, saying it is based on a “strained, convoluted legal theory.”
Republican lawmakers blast potential Trump indictment as ‘politically motivated,’ ‘abuse of power’
Republican lawmakers blasted the prospect of former President Trump being indicted after he revealed he expects to be arrested next week, calling the potential move “politically motivated” and an “…
I wonder what they will be saying when the indictments have their names on them?
DIY-HP-LED
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Even if "Rino Ron" doesn't do a fucking thing, Trump will still blame him and say he "sold out" the base, Meatball Ron is Donald's rival for the GOP nomination. Remember facts don't count and fox will be backing DeSantis.