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OddBall1st

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Fogdog said:
I didn't call you stupid, just ignorant. Unlike a stupid person like @NLXSK1, an ignorant person can learn but they still have to work hard at it and have an open mind. Your mind is closed, so ignorant you will remain to be.

When made in ignorance, a decision is just a guess. That's what an ignorant person does. They just guess. At best, they are right half the time. With dis-information, such as the kind of news you get from right wing talk shows and Fox, an ignorant person is less likely to make a good decision. Like deciding to vote for Trump.

With good information, and an open mind, the odds of making a good decision are better. Knowledge is a virtue that aids in survival and success, not without hard work though.
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If this were true,...I`d still be voting Trump. Each Candidate has to sell their vote, and the smarter people are, the more convincing they can be. None of this makes them magically the best Candidate for the job.

If I chose to rely on ability and career history,...I will ignore that one is a lawyer, one is a business man, or one is a New England Governor, whatever...... If I chose to decide on Political Party,...I`d ignore the other Party no matter what,.... If I chose to decide on a Candidate that has no political career and is free of any political favors and lobbyists, I will just ignore the other`s credentials all together.
So yes, there can be misunderstood ignorance shoved in your face. Informed or not.
 
Fogdog

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OddBall1st said:
If this were true,...I`d still be voting Trump. Each Candidate has to sell their vote, and the smarter people are, the more convincing they can be. None of this makes them magically the best Candidate for the job.

If I chose to rely on ability and career history,...I will ignore that one is a lawyer, one is a business man, or one is a New England Governor, whatever...... If I chose to decide on Political Party,...I`d ignore the other Party no matter what,.... If I chose to decide on a Candidate that has no political career and is free of any political favors and lobbyists, I will just ignore the other`s credentials all together.
So yes, there can be misunderstood ignorance shoved in your face. Informed or not.
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Closed mind and ignorant. Confirmed.

Does Trump's losing a net total of 3 billion dollars over the course of his career make him the best candidate to you?
 
see4

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OddBall1st said:
Then he should fit right in. This Country is choked by trillion dollar debt. Maybe going bankrupt is better than reaching those figures. You know, I once crashed a car before..........
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I don't disagree with you on that. Our country is doing a poor job of managing our money.

So the solution is to put someone in office who has gone bankrupt 11 times?

Sounds legit. Totally makes sense.

 
Fogdog

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NLXSK1 said:
How much money did he make over his lifetime. Not what his net worth is, what his revenue was. I bet 3 billion is small compared to that number.
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He has lost 3 billion dollars overall. His bankruptcy pushed those losses on to others.
 
see4

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NLXSK1 said:
I wish I was as bankrupt as he is!!!
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Ahh, so it's penis envy that is the basis of your faith in Trump.
"Some day if I work hard enough and be a better sheeple, I too can has all the Trump money I wants!"

You are completely missing the underlying point here. Unsurprisingly.

None of us here care what Trump's wealth is. It could be $100,000,000,000 for all I care. That doesn't matter. When you're a billionaire, it doesn't really matter if you have 1 billion or 100 billion. Because if you're not doing anything with it, you might as well have none.

The point is that he has put himself and or his businesses in to bankruptcy to avoid debt. He uses the system to his advantage all the while shitting on other people and business to get ahead. To some that is good business, to others that is unethical and borderline illegal. At the very least Trump can be characterized as a con man.

You are looking at it with simplistic a view, not surprisingly, in that you see someone who took $200M and turned it into ~$4.5B over 30 years. And that's all you see. You don't see anything else. But us rational, thinking people like to examine all the facets of one's career/history/what-have-you and draw conclusions based on something more evident.

Anyway. You probably aren't bright enough to comprehend what I just told you, so I know I'm wasting my time. Or you'll likely call it all bullshit. Which you are entitled to say. However you can refute a thing I just said. Mainly because your penis is tiny.
 
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OddBall1st

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Fogdog said:
Closed mind and ignorant. Confirmed.

Does Trump's losing a net total of 3 billion dollars over the course of his career make him the best candidate to you?
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It means he is familiar with the process and at his level, 3 billion over his career may not be much. I can say that career politicians over the last 20 years have let us into debt our grandchildren will be paying off and that don`t look as promising as a man that lost some and made much more. A made up mind is closed. So....that`s expected. Hillary and Sanders have failed to make up my mind in their favor. That`s not Donald`s fault.
 
OddBall1st

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see4 said:
I don't disagree with you on that. Our country is doing a poor job of managing our money.

So the solution is to put someone in office who has gone bankrupt 11 times?

Sounds legit. Totally makes sense.

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That means he now knows what not to do in certain areas, I certainly don`t want a person under investigation, has lied and covered them, and claimed to be broke after several 6 figure speeches. Or, Someone that can`t seem to give an order to his crew without consultation.

The solution is not to put career politicians in charge anymore, Both Democrats fall short of that mark. 11 times bankrupt and worth hundreds of millions,....that`s not bad at all.
 
OddBall1st

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see4 said:
I don't disagree with you on that. Our country is doing a poor job of managing our money.

So the solution is to put someone in office who has gone bankrupt 11 times?

Sounds legit. Totally makes sense.

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As SEC/State Hillary and crew lost near 3 billion in spent money receipts,...still missing today,...I should pick her instead ?
 
Rayne

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nitro harley said:
Thursday, May 19

Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 42, Trump 45 Trump +3
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Rasmussen Reports Clinton 37, Trump 42 Trump +5
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Thursday, May 19
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News/NY Times Clinton 47, Trump 41 Clinton +6
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 42, Trump 45 Trump +3
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Rasmussen Reports Clinton 37, Trump 42 Trump +5
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders CBS News/NY Times Sanders 51, Trump 38 Sanders +13
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders FOX News Sanders 46, Trump 42 Sanders +4

Source of poll data

Rasmussen Reports polls are known to favor republican candidates. Rasmussen polls are automated pre-recorded phone calls to 1,000 potential voters at dinner time. The only polls that are truly accurate are the ones seen on election days.
 
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Flaming Pie

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see4 said:
Ahh, so it's penis envy that is the basis of your faith in Trump.
"Some day if I work hard enough and be a better sheeple, I too can has all the Trump money I wants!"

You are completely missing the underlying point here. Unsurprisingly.

None of us here care what Trump's wealth is. It could be $100,000,000,000 for all I care. That doesn't matter. When you're a billionaire, it doesn't really matter if you have 1 billion or 100 billion. Because if you're not doing anything with it, you might as well have none.

The point is that he has put himself and or his businesses in to bankruptcy to avoid debt. He uses the system to his advantage all the while shitting on other people and business to get ahead. To some that is good business, to others that is unethical and borderline illegal. At the very least Trump can be characterized as a con man.

You are looking at it with simplistic a view, not surprisingly, in that you see someone who took $200M and turned it into ~$4.5B over 30 years. And that's all you see. You don't see anything else. But us rational, thinking people like to examine all the facets of one's career/history/what-have-you and draw conclusions based on something more evident.

Anyway. You probably aren't bright enough to comprehend what I just told you, so I know I'm wasting my time. Or you'll likely call it all bullshit. Which you are entitled to say. However you can refute a thing I just said. Mainly because your penis is tiny.
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http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/
 
nitro harley

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see4 said:
The Trumps inherited a little more than $200,000,000 in value of an established business. In cash, everyone can only speculate, but Forbes guessed that Trump got about $40 million cash from his KKK father dying. In 1982 Forbes again estimated that the business that Donald Trump had been running for 8 years was worth around $200,000,000. So after 8 years of hard work Donald Trump managed to increase the company's value $0. He has however turned a $200,000,000 business into a $4,500,000,000 empire since 1982. If one were to have simply put that $200,000,000 in a simple money market fund in 1982, they'd be worth over $8,700,000,000.

The point here is your claim is that Trump started from nothing and has amassed great wealth through ingenuity and sound business decisions. Anyone with a brain and eyes knows this not to be true. I'm sorry I can't convince you otherwise. I simply don't care enough.
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At least you said the Trumps with a "s". Thats better, now you are shedding some of the bull shit off. Thats a good start. TRUMP!
 
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