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GreenGiant49

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I beg to differ GG, but then a lot is strain dependant. And stigmas don't exactly behave like they do in those pics so it's quite decieving, imo.
Hi DST! Im a new grower, so I DONT KNOW ANYTHING. So please tell me what specifically that you dont agree with. I want to learn.

One interesting thing that I recently read was that commercial growers want the most WEIGHT in their buds so they wait until they are the biggest, then harvest. The person writing the article said that biggest and heaviest is not really the BEST smoke. Do you know what Im trying to say? Their point is that the quality is better if you dont wait too long. I guess the key is the trichomes. Mature but not starting to decline.
 

DST

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Well there's one thing you know GG, that RIU is a cool place to learn things. So that's a start, lol.

Okay, so I do like shiney toys and I am probalby a fairly average bloke trying to be a new man but failing in a lot of departments, but when it comes to my weed I can be a bit cavemanish, or rather basic, I don't own a PH/EC meter, I don't do a lot of things people say is necessary, but hey, I like my weed just fine the way it comes out.

I think with diagrams like the one you posted, it's all a bit to, black and white. The diagram itself is basically correct, but people take things at face value and you got everyone getting all antsy and chopping at week 7 (and you know they are not waiting until the end of week 7 cause they want to get their hands on the goodies) subsequently they loose the last burst of growth, as shown in Ambers plants and she will benefit from her patience. Or they are growing a 12 week sativa and wonder why they can't get fat sativa buds like they see in High Times.

Now I like to be as organic as possible with growing, and take the same view with MJ plants and genetics. When you are looking at a sativa dominant strain within a hybrid, and you have a pheno that is say growing to a 12 week flowering regime, but even at 12 weeks there are mainly a mix of clear and cloudy trichs, not many ambers in site. The plants stigmas are receeding (which the diagram doesn't show and I think shows maturity in a plant) and the calyxes are swelling, yet not much amber. This plant could go further but may be ready at this point, and may never actually produce a large amount of amber trichomes.
It's sister, turns out to be an 8 week wonder, finished bang on with solid nugs and already 5% amber, same genetic background (selfed seeds).

This is an actual example of phenotypes that I grew.

You smoked number 1 and the sativa high is present yet when you relax the stone goes through your body and hey, this is an allrounder with a stoned yet heavy cerebral high effect. Awesome. Lets try the 8 weeker, by jolly, I'll be blown, it's almost bang on the same effect.

Okay, so different chromozones within the 20 present will deal with how the plant finishes and trichomes being there chiefly to protect the plant can change amber for all sorts of reasons, like us constantly touching the fukkers, movement damage, possible environmental, do the plants near your intakes look different in colour sometimes for example...and subsequently people basing their decisions on trichomes may lead to wrong decisions.

Different genetics produce different effects. Not all plants with equal trichomes will have equal amounts of strength, every plant and genetic line will have slight differences, which is why you base the plant on how you like to smoke them, but ultimately I say they are ripe when stigmas have receeded and calyxes have swollen and there is no further vegetative growth (i.e new stigmas being created) This to me is when a plant is finished. A sativa plant will give you a high mainly, an indica plant will give you chiefly a stoned body effect, hybrids will give mixes of these, and this is where the trick lies in finding your happy medium.

Sorry for banging on.

DST
 

GreenGiant49

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Well there's one thing you know GG, that RIU is a cool place to learn things. So that's a start, lol.


Sorry for banging on.

DST
Not to be sorry! I find these technical details and discussions fascinating. You have to be careful what you believe. For example, me posting that picture of the calyxes, stigmas and trichs. And suggesting that it was the truth. Hell, I have not had a hrydo harvest EVER. Thanks for calling me on it!

We all learn from this exchange of ideas.
 
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C.Indica

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I love that picture, but yesit's decieving.
Many many strains aren't ripe until after all Pistils die backk.
Whichalso,can be causedby heat stress.

Best thing to do iswatch the trichomes, and understand their chemical content.
 

DST

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This is what I am saying, NO!!!!!! stop just watching the trichomes. they are not the only thing in the plant that is telling you it's ready, if Dr Amber had only been watching her Trichomes she would have harvested about 3 weeks ago.....and would still be loving the high, but it would not be the same quality as it is going to be now, and far less in quantity as well.

Why would one plant produce as high a THC content in its trichomes as another plant. All plants are different this is what I am trying to say (life of Brian, remember, we are all individuals). So if you take 2 plants of differing strains for example, both with 10% amber trichomes, do you think they will both have the same % of CBD, THC, CBN, etc.....No, it will all be different. A plant is ready when the situation I have described above is happening imo. If you crave for a sativa high, get genetics that are based on sativa strains and then grow the plant until it is mature. Then you will get the best high you ever had. Take that plant early when it's not mature (but maybe has some amber trichomes in it) and is still throwing out new stigmas, then you are not hitting that plants full potential.

If the sativa strain when mature is not giving you the right sativa high, then get another sativa strain and grow that out. Why just to avoid getting too much Amber in your trichomes would you pull a plant when it's not ready and then wonder why everyone else is pulling more weight from their plants than you......

If people want to base their plants maturity on looking through a microscope then fine by me. I will continue to look at my fruit and pick it when it has swollen and ripened.

Peace out, DST
 

bekindbud

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I like my fruits ripe too, I never eat my bananas green, always yellow. Same goes for my buds. This is why whenever I grow out a new strain I harvest different parts of the plant at different times to find the sweet spot for my preferences. I have harvested 4 plants in the last 2 weeks and I never used a scope once. Sometimes letting a plant go an extra week can make a big difference in smoke, taste, smell, bag appeal and high.

Peace
BKB
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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A Hawaiian Getaway with Gabreialla , the Bubblebomb.( medicate please.lol..)

After the long red eye flight to Hawaii Gabreiella the bubblebomb was completely exhausted.
She quickly unpacked in the hotel room and bolted for the beach.
Relaxing in the beach chair listening to the quiet repitiious sound of the waves she fell into a deepdeep sleep
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when she awoke her side table was filled with all of her favorite things... a packed bong, a strawberry daqueri, some friut, and maui onion potatoe chips!

she was so delightfully surprised.what service!!!:mrgreen:


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after a bong hit of some exodus cheese she was ready to get up to get down.

and she hula danced for a while

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mary jane and gabreillea partied all night long drinkin strawberry daqueris and doing bong hits.

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after working up a sweat they both decided to go skinny dipping... the water was so warm, they had a lovely time on their trip to Hawaii.






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unfortuenetly Gabreialla drowned in the ocean and i had to put her to rest bud by bud.....

BUT
she will be back to live and be loved again...........if i can reveg her.lolbongsmilie:peace:amber





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bekindbud

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Ambz you always find a way to put a big smile on my face!!! Thank you for taking time out to entertain us, your work is unforgettable!

Peace

BKB
 

del66666

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ambernooski you crack me up................im beginning to think you are on drugs or something..........................keep it up please........
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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lol...i dont know if ican ..im kinda hungover.lol..but the show must go on... i was invited to another harvest party tonitee that i just cant miss..
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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thats cool bc. i might concider doing that myself one day. i was just in an office that had some photo canvas prints that looked really sweet. exellent for photography. good luck!
 

SmoochieBoochies

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Ha ha! What a great little harvest story!!! I miss those maui onion chips!!! Took me right back to the islands. I'll channel some sun your way, if you send me some chips dude!

37 pages, this is gonna take a bit! Never know what you'll find. Happy growing!!!
 
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