Rootbound420
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When do you start feeding with dr earth when using organic soil? Im using black gold full organic soil. Which dr earth should i use? What week to start using it and how much? Newbie here btw!
Dr earth dry amendments with organic soil
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CaliRootz88
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Amend at 2TBSP per gallon of medium.
Make your first amendment once your plant is ready for a 1 gallon container or bigger. Don’t dry amend seedlings or newly rooted clones. Instead get a soil made for clones and seedlings like Soil King’s Baby Rootz which have a delicate and balanced amount of nutes that will carry a seedling or newly rooted clone for 3-4 weeks.
Use 4-4-4 all the way until week 3 of flower. Then use Flower Girl 3-9-4 Week 3-Harvest.
Aside from the dry amendments you want to look into your secondary nutes. Cal, Mag, Etc.
Making sure your waterings are PH’d between 6-7.0 every watering is important.
Also consider a microbe product like recharge it also has humic/fulvic acids to help break down the dry amendments and promote root/plant health.
I also like to amend with worm castings when I dry amend for soil health
Make your first amendment once your plant is ready for a 1 gallon container or bigger. Don’t dry amend seedlings or newly rooted clones. Instead get a soil made for clones and seedlings like Soil King’s Baby Rootz which have a delicate and balanced amount of nutes that will carry a seedling or newly rooted clone for 3-4 weeks.
Use 4-4-4 all the way until week 3 of flower. Then use Flower Girl 3-9-4 Week 3-Harvest.
Aside from the dry amendments you want to look into your secondary nutes. Cal, Mag, Etc.
Making sure your waterings are PH’d between 6-7.0 every watering is important.
Also consider a microbe product like recharge it also has humic/fulvic acids to help break down the dry amendments and promote root/plant health.
I also like to amend with worm castings when I dry amend for soil health
Rootbound420
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Thank you!
Hiphophippo
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Growing organic shouldn’t have to ph your water I haven’t phd water in years and haven’t worried about soil ph in a long time if you pay close attention to what your inoculating you’re soil with you’ll have a healthy balanced soil for your plants keeping a time schedule for top dressings and no more ph worries.
MrX2017
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Making the switch from floraflex back to living soil. I literally use Jobs organic all purpose 4/4/4 for veg and terp teas bloom and b booster for veg.
I haven’t phed water in years! Evening using the floraflex. To stable.
Lenin1917
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I run their tomato blend at 1cup/10 gallons of soil in my own peat, perlite, ewc/compost mix, in premixed stuff (roots original) I was running at 2tbsp/gallo of soil. Great stuff balanced fertilizer my plants love it these mfs are like 45 days from seed
full disclosure I have used a bit of superthrive which contains a little triacontanol.
full disclosure I have used a bit of superthrive which contains a little triacontanol.
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Lenin1917
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You should at least look at your municipal water report though there are places where your taps coming out really acidic or really alkaline and your gonna need to adjust. But more often than not your taps fine.
Hiphophippo
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I use the jobs organic line a lot of times to as it’s always readily available and hasn’t let me down yet I use Gaia green as well
CaliRootz88
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I PH check every time for good measure. Most of the time it’s in range bud Sometimes the ph level after adding my non NPK products drops it too low for my liking so I like to monitor. Only takes me seconds to check it.
Rootbound420
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My PH so far has been perfect so not to worried about it. I use bottled spring water it comes in at 7.1 everytime i just use a little PH down set it to 6.3 and my soil is staying at 6.3-6.4 so far. I have well water that is high alkaline so i dont use it. I cant drink it unless its boiled so i dont give it to my plants either. Lol
Wizzlebiz
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Totally unnecessary.
I water from my hose ph 8.0, I use organic soil, and Dr earth.
Zero issues ever.
CaliRootz88
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To each there own. I’ve had PH issues in the past when I first started growing by not checking and adjusting where needed and will always check every watering regardless of why you think it’s unnecessary. I grow top shelf not mids.
I personally don’t use water straight from the water hose either. I like to let mine sit out and bubble a minimum of day before I use it for watering and I have mutuiple 5gallon buckets to alternate this. Water straight from the hose kills more microbes/bacterias that are crucial in organic. If you’re growing organically water straight from the hose well.. that’s more unnecessary than checking my ph every time. imo. If I was in a true organic no till living soil then ofc checking PH isn’t important. Id be focusing more on soil tests when needed to amend as needed with a no till.
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Tonycannavis
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mix in dr with your soil pre planting lots of perlites its what i use a mix Fox farm ocean forest happy frog using in Dr. flower girl and natural wonder i don't used nut at all seaweed & fish fertilizer from Agway top dress and tea every couple weeks depending how the plant looks don't over do it happy growing keep it simple
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Rootbound420
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How long does it take for dr earth to kick in and start feeding if you top dress?
Wizzlebiz
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Roughly a week to 10 days
If you need quick acting due to nutrient deficiency use pride land's for that one feed.
Rootbound420
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Thanks! Plants are still using soils nutes for now so a week should be fine if i top dress today. Just went into flower so should i be using just the bloom now?
Wizzlebiz
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Are these indoor plants? How large are the? What size container are they in?
Short answer yes if they are a week out from actually beginning to flower (not flip to flower) then yes now would be about right to begin flower girl.
Rootbound420
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They are 4 weeks and 3 days old, 3 gallon fabric pots using black gold all organic soil. Little stunted due to over watering first 2 weeks. Lol first time growing got a little carried away. One is in flower for sure. The others are just now starting flower.
I had a nitrogen issue and calcium def but fixed them now they are thriving and growing fast finally.
Also just watered so they are a little heavy leaved.
I had a nitrogen issue and calcium def but fixed them now they are thriving and growing fast finally.
Also just watered so they are a little heavy leaved.
Wizzlebiz
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I wouldn't add nutes here yet. No offense meant here However these are very stunted. There will be a decent amount of nutes left in that soil still.
Rootbound420
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Oh and tip burn is from lights i fixed that also they were at 16" had to raise them up a bit. Running into every problem you can experience at this point so far. But learning so i guess thats good. Haha