Drones

King Arthur · May 12, 2015

NewtoMJ said:
I'm conflicted, on one hand it's pretty scary for people who have to live under drone threat. On the other hand, I have directly benefited from drones and U.S. artillery strategy. I also don't know if human life is as special as we make it out to be sometimes.

Surprisingly you make a completely valid point about human life not being as special as we make it out to be. But at the same time I can't picture someone being blown up by a missile would do any good for the world. It is like playing simcity and calling for natural disasters because we get bored lol.

NewtoMJ · May 12, 2015

King Arthur said:
Surprisingly you make a completely valid point about human life not being as special as we make it out to be. But at the same time I can't picture someone being blown up by a missile would do any good for the world. It is like playing simcity and calling for natural disasters because we get bored lol.

Yea. I guess my ultimate point is, people are going to get killed, but we all have to live here. So, it's best to be as good as we can toward one another, because the world would suck even more if we weren't. Also, if you truly do place a premium on human life, then you would logically have to accept collateral damage, because in the real world it is a numbers game. The real problem, is are the targets valid, and what are the safeguards in place insuring we don't make a mistake.

Harrekin · May 13, 2015

NewtoMJ said:
Yea. I guess my ultimate point is, people are going to get killed, but we all have to live here. So, it's best to be as good as we can toward one another, because the world would suck even more if we weren't. Also, if you truly do place a premium on human life, then you would logically have to accept collateral damage, because in the real world it is a numbers game. The real problem, is are the targets valid, and what are the safeguards in place insuring we don't make a mistake.

Im sure all those parents think it's totally cool that their children got blown up to try stop "the bad man"...

At that point, you are the bad guy.

WeedFreak78 · May 13, 2015

It's refreshing to hear (former?) military members talk about human life and preservation. Ive come to believe the majority of our military have the "scorched earth, they aren't human" mindset from many I've talked too, weakening my support for our military over the last 10+ years. Thank you.

Rrog · May 13, 2015

Harrekin · May 13, 2015

Rrog said:

There's a hell of alot better and cheaper consumer drones out there.

That box has already been opened and can't be shut again...

mo841 · May 13, 2015

I like drones. I would likely fuck this drone from the front and the back.

Rrog · May 13, 2015

Harrekin said:
There's a hell of alot better and cheaper consumer drones out there.

That box has already been opened and can't be shut again...

That drone does not exist yet. So there's NOT a hellova lot better and cheaper already, now is there?

Harrekin · May 13, 2015

Rrog said:
That drone does not exist yet. So there's NOT a hellova lot better and cheaper already, now is there?

Well yes, there is.

Scuttle off to YouTube there and have a look.

Rrog · May 13, 2015

Well no there isn't. Sorry dude. The drone follows you. It's not remotely controlled.

AlecTheGardener · May 13, 2015

Rrog said:
Well no there isn't. Sorry dude. The drone follows you. It's not remotely controlled.

That tiny UAV is pretty amazing, the tracking method, a transponder I wonder?

Rrog · May 13, 2015

Dunno, but the hands-off tracking is crazy cool!

Harrekin · May 13, 2015

Rrog said:
Well no there isn't. Sorry dude. The drone follows you. It's not remotely controlled.

Lots of prototypes for that, some can even move around by themselves and avoid obstacles in a dynamic environment.

The one you posted seems to require some kind of remote, but the waterproof part is cool.

Rrog · May 13, 2015

You said there's a hell of a lot better and cheaper and I call major BS. If you don't like it, then you don't like it, but why trash it

AlecTheGardener · May 13, 2015

Rrog said:
You said there's a hell of a lot better and cheaper and I call major BS. If you don't like it, then you don't like it, but why trash it

/politics tradition?

NewtoMJ · May 13, 2015

Is anyone else starting to get worried about a terminator like scenario?

Harrekin · May 13, 2015

Rrog said:
You said there's a hell of a lot better and cheaper and I call major BS. If you don't like it, then you don't like it, but why trash it

Dude, Google is your friend.

Plus I suspect it tracks you using the ugly arm remote thing, which isn't exactly groundbreaking Tech.

AlecTheGardener · May 13, 2015

NewtoMJ said:
Is anyone else starting to get worried about a terminator like scenario?

As a youngster when I first read Neuromancer I was scared of that doomsday scenario, sentient AI. True AI. Fucking startling.

It makes me shiver. The cold calculation and death that would ultimately result. How couldn't it?

Another good doomsday scenario that is a scary but disproven concept: grey goo.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_goo

Harrekin · May 13, 2015

AlecTheGardener said:
As a youngster when I first read Neuromancer I was scared of that doomsday scenario, sentient AI. True AI. Fucking startling.

It makes me shiver. The cold calculation and death that would ultimately result. How couldn't it?

Another good doomsday scenario that is a scary but disproven concept: grey goo.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_goo

True AI isn't really the issue, it would simply solve problems provided to it using the information it's has "learned".

It's the issue of what causes sentience that we need to learn.

Is it simply a product of a significantly advanced computer? (Man made or biological)

It's a problem that could/will topple "God" right from the heavens once and for all.

abandonconflict · May 13, 2015

It can get worse.

In Mindanao, Philippines, a semi-militarized national special police unit went to kill a wanted terrorist. He was a bomb maker and member of Abu Sayyaf and brother of a prominent politician in Mindanao.

After killing him and removing a finger to obtain DNA, then snapping a photo of the body, the police force found themselves outmatched by the local militia. They carried only a few rifles and a small quantity of ammunition. Most of them were killed but the finger was brought back to Manila.

Instead of collateral damage, 44 national policemen were frivolously lost in the course of the action which was for one bomb maker. The men were then glorified as martyrs and sold to the nation as impetus for intensified military involvement against the Muslim seperatists.

Now a political solution is all but ruled out and the way is paved for public acceptance of collateral damage. In other, completely unrelated news, Merica just sold a bunch of weapons to the Philippines.

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