Droopy auto????

kaydeezee

kaydeezee

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Hi guys,

I have a droopy NORTHEN EXPRESS AUTO from FAST BUDS 45 days from seed. Been flowering for a few weeks now she has been through a bit with the light sycle being changed from 20/4 for the first 4 weeks then I had to move them into flowering tent on 12/12 because of a broken light system. I finally managed to put her in a space 1week later on 18/6 and she seemed fine so I don't think the jump around with lights has done any thing?? ' the problem is she's been droopy for days with some purple leaf steams??
My temp's ate between 71f/83f
Growing in soil
3Gal fabric pot
Ionic bloom nutrients half strength
A little call mag half strength
Pkb half strength
Watering every other day 500ml tap water ph 7.7

I have a 4" all round ventilation with speed controller
2x marshydro 12" ubive the canopy.

My watering regime is : water/no water/water/no water/feed 500ml

What seems to be the problem????20161023_080030.jpg 20161023_075856.jpg
Is this under watering or over watering???
If so it's strange because for a 3Gal pot 500ml isn't a lot to be honest????
 
Dadopeboii

Dadopeboii

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Overall they look pretty healthy to me. Not an expert on growing with lights but when outdoors, the leaves will droop when the sun isn't up, so maybe check them in the middle of the light cycle. Could be early signs of root rot, try treating with hydroguard or something similar. Try skipping a watering or two and see if there's any improvement. If no improvement try watering more often.
 
kaydeezee

kaydeezee

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Both plants I have in this space have got read steams and look a little unwell still??
I haven't water for a day tomorrow will be 2days ' I want to see if maybe I have Neen watering to much?
I was giving the northen express in the 3Gal pot 1 liter everyother day and half strength newts and half strength Pkb.
I was giving the gsc in the 2gal pot 500ml everyday and nutes half strength and half strength Pkb? ??
The only thing is could be is temp's? Overwater maybe?? I've had the same problem with the last 3 strains but not the 3 be for and everything is the same apart from temp's and watering regime.
I used to water 500ml in veg and 1 litre in flower no mater what but I got cough up in everyone else grows/opinions and now I'm confused and lost lolol

Here is my tent in the back cubourd lol I have the extraction going through a hole in the wall through to the end of the hall way with a door separating the cubourd l.
I also have a intake coming from a nother part of the house ' I'm unable to vent to any windows but do have good room ventilation so I think if I install the 5"rkk and 5"rhyno filter I will be able to sucjnmorenof the heat out of my tent causing it to suction 'whilst the carbon filter is removing the hot air and oudor my intake should be diled down letting in minimum amount of air? Is this correct???
?if so in my tent is 230cmf with a speed controller and a 4" intake plus a oscilating 30 watt clipon fan enough to cool 2X marshydro 300 watt led???
I ask this because at present my 4"allround tt carbon and intake setup with a speed controller is struggling to keep under 31c ???? The carbon filter is in max in my intake is just about on ' because if I turn it up the tent heats up??? What am I doing wrong ? Do I need a bigger extractor because of where I'm growing ? And not venting my intake to a window ?
My room temp in my while house us 20c all the time ? Any ideas please guys??20161025_001712.jpg
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Right off ....the light schedule flip flopping can and does throw a wrench into some autos. They are designed to flower fine with ONE straight schedule ...
Either ( 24/0 - 20/4 - 18/6 ) and other schedule like 12/12 gives you smaller plants.

They are fast growing thus " need " more available light constantly to keep its life cycle going as optimal as it can. Like those 60 Day Wonder seeds ( don't really care for them : they were FREE ) i know that it will " TAP " out fast because of its grow characteristics. So i put them on 20/4 til end ... Giving them as much light energy as it wants. Other autos i may keep the standard 18/6.

Watering too much ... Water ONLY when dry ... Every other day is a little much.
Deep green color , is typical of Nitro tox ( too much ) which maybe related to your regiment. Because Nitro Tox weakens the normal water uptake of plant , which is compounded by your over watering.

Cut watering UNTIL dry or pot feels lighter than it feels now. Allow plant to start to process all of that nute stored. Stop throwing the kitchen sink at it.
Since it is an AUTO - you definetely DONT WANT TO STRESS IT.
It will stunt and be underperforming.
 
Rusty_Shackleford_

Rusty_Shackleford_

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kaydeezee said:
Both plants I have in this space have got read steams and look a little unwell still??
I haven't water for a day tomorrow will be 2days ' I want to see if maybe I have Neen watering to much?
I was giving the northen express in the 3Gal pot 1 liter everyother day and half strength newts and half strength Pkb.
I was giving the gsc in the 2gal pot 500ml everyday and nutes half strength and half strength Pkb? ??
The only thing is could be is temp's? Overwater maybe?? I've had the same problem with the last 3 strains but not the 3 be for and everything is the same apart from temp's and watering regime.
I used to water 500ml in veg and 1 litre in flower no mater what but I got cough up in everyone else grows/opinions and now I'm confused and lost lolol

Here is my tent in the back cubourd lol I have the extraction going through a hole in the wall through to the end of the hall way with a door separating the cubourd l.
I also have a intake coming from a nother part of the house ' I'm unable to vent to any windows but do have good room ventilation so I think if I install the 5"rkk and 5"rhyno filter I will be able to sucjnmorenof the heat out of my tent causing it to suction 'whilst the carbon filter is removing the hot air and oudor my intake should be diled down letting in minimum amount of air? Is this correct???
?if so in my tent is 230cmf with a speed controller and a 4" intake plus a oscilating 30 watt clipon fan enough to cool 2X marshydro 300 watt led???
I ask this because at present my 4"allround tt carbon and intake setup with a speed controller is struggling to keep under 31c ???? The carbon filter is in max in my intake is just about on ' because if I turn it up the tent heats up??? What am I doing wrong ? Do I need a bigger extractor because of where I'm growing ? And not venting my intake to a window ?
My room temp in my while house us 20c all the time ? Any ideas please guys??View attachment 3813274
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Interesting post. I'm new to growing, and can't help much but I experienced a similar issue a couple weeks ago.
Question, have you used that LED before? Do you know how far away it is from your canopy?
 
kaydeezee

kaydeezee

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Yea I was watering the 1gal pot everyday because everyday it was dry but maybe it wasn't as dry ulas I thought???
 
kaydeezee

kaydeezee

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I have now gone to a diffrent watering regime now that habr dryer out ' I'm giving the 1gal pot 1/4 liter every other day and I'm giving the 3Gal pot 1 litre every other day maybe 3 days depending?
So that's water/water/feed ???
Water Monday ' skip Tuesday 'water Wednesday ' skip Thursday ' feed Friday ???
Is his ok you think??
 
GeneralGrower

GeneralGrower

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The soil is probably too alkaline, if you said you're at 7.7 Ph. Cannabis likes a habitat around 6 - 7 in soil, so once above 7.5 your roots are going to have a hard time taking in iron, copper, zinc and other essential minerals. Also, are you getting a good drain on it? I would flush out with RO water and check the ph of your drain-off and get a good flush through her, then let it dry out for a few days then start back on light nutes. Do you have a soil moisture guage? You can get one for cheap at home depot so you can check the moisture deep inside the pot. If your soil doesn't have good drainage properties it could be staying soggy and you may be harboring buildups in there especially if you water small amounts and never get a good drain-off.
 
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