Drop bloom time to 5-6 wks on most strains and increase yield.

Yes you read that right. I just did an experimental round with several strains. I wasnt even trying to shorten the bloom time honestly. One strain is a 9 week strain and it was totally done at 42 days. Could have been chopped sooner if I had flushed earlier. These are strains I have grown many times before and from the same mother plants. It sounds too good to be true I know but it really works.


Strains this worked on were Grape God, Critical Plus, and AFWreck.

Very first watering in bloom I added MOAB at 1.5 ml per gal. Dropped bloom nutes slightly. Watered the next 9 days with regular bloom nutes. Starting day 10/11 added Kool Bloom liquid. I shit you not at day 30 these plants looked virtually done ! Bigger colas then these same strains are doing on another tray where I did my normal 7 week of nutes and one week flush. Quality looks amazing as well. They finished so fast I only used MOAB for one or two waterings near the end and realized they really were done...... Freaking insane results I never in a million years expected. Only went to 42 days in order to get a decent flush on them. They could have easily been harvested at day 35 with very little loss of weight or potency. Yes at 5 weeks even my 9 week strains AFwreck ! Three strains all did the same thing.

I just wanted to share. I knew MOAB was supposed to help initiate blooming. I had heard some products like Bush Master shorten bloom by 10 days but this is plain crazy. I am truly floored by the results. In 9 years of growing I have never been so surprised by something like this.

You are such a frickin brilliant person. Congratulations

I always say "skeptic" is the easiest job in the world: you question someones statement w/o risk (claim a false) then make them go through the trouble of proving it true
HOWEVER;
the OP makes his 1st post with a revelation that would change the entire cannabis industry as if its the biggest breakthrough since hydroponics...
I dunno, add me to the list of skeptics

I kind of expected that on here actually lol.... I could have been like 90% of other growers and not share my new found "secret". I hate people who dont share so I thought I would. It is VERY easy to prove. Try it.

All this is doing is pushing the plant into bloom much faster than normal. Instead of 3 week stretch it does that in the first 7-10 days. I talked to a fellow grower about my surprising results and turns out he does the same exact thing except he uses phoshoload/bushmaster. He told me at day 35 start flushing. At day 39 the hairs are all orange and trichs are milky. Buds are knuckled out too. Day 42 they are done my most peoples standards. I guess if you wanted 50% amber it might take 49 days on a normally 63 day strain.

dllpot said:

I kind of expected that on here actually lol.... I could have been like 90% of other growers and not share my new found "secret". I hate people who dont share so I thought I would. It is VERY easy to prove. Try

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Well, i automatically called bullshit, because of the "increase yield" claim by you.
Manipulating light cycles have shown to shorten flower cycles. Lets just say pk boosting from day one of flower will shorten the cycle. How would it get as big of yields compared to a regular length flowering cycle?(more hours of light through out flowering)
I just don't see it. I'm into experimenting, but ain't gonna try to prove you wrong on this one. So, good day to You

Any pics of your afwreck.
I have been running it for a few years.
It is a slow finisher.
I dont see much of it around.
Mine is in my sig.

charface said:

Any pics of your afwreck.
I have been running it for a few years.
It is a slow finisher.
I dont see much of it around.
Mine is in my sig.

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Have you tried greenribbon? Pretty similar. Some say the same. Finishes 8-9 weeks. Kill it outdoors with it here in Norcal. Indoors its good. Just not as good as the og's. Picky mofo's!
Sorry no pics either

No problem.
No I dont really use anything.
Pretty much organic.
I have strains that finish in 6 weeks so
I just let the wrecker finish while I deal with the indica doms.

charface said:

No problem.
No I dont really use anything.
Pretty much organic.
I have strains that finish in 6 weeks so
I just let the wrecker finish while I deal with the indica doms.

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I'm sorry, i was referring to the strain, Greenribbon.

dllpot said:

I kind of expected that on here actually lol.... I could have been like 90% of other growers and not share my new found "secret". I hate people who dont share so I thought I would. It is VERY easy to prove. Try it.

All this is doing is pushing the plant into bloom much faster than normal. Instead of 3 week stretch it does that in the first 7-10 days. I talked to a fellow grower about my surprising results and turns out he does the same exact thing except he uses phoshoload/bushmaster. He told me at day 35 start flushing. At day 39 the hairs are all orange and trichs are milky. Buds are knuckled out too. Day 42 they are done my most peoples standards. I guess if you wanted 50% amber it might take 49 days on a normally 63 day strain.

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Sounds like all you're actually doing is triggering early scenesense through over use of bloom stimulators.


Nothing new here really.


A 0-6-5 sulphur based forcing solution will have the same end result.


The only way in which your yield is increasing is because you can fit in another grow during the year so your overall year amounts will be higher but quality and potency will most DEFINATELY suffer.




J

Aeroknow said:

Well, i automatically called bullshit, because of the "increase yield" claim by you.
Manipulating light cycles have shown to shorten flower cycles. Lets just say pk boosting from day one of flower will shorten the cycle. How would it get as big of yields compared to a regular length flowering cycle?(more hours of light through out flowering)
I just don't see it. I'm into experimenting, but ain't gonna try to prove you wrong on this one. So, good day to You

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No worries, just trying to share my findings. My critical plus yield didnt increase in fact it might be a tad less. The AFWreck and Grape God however both have bigger colas without a doubt. I have done all those strains enough to know the difference.


I could get some pics of the AFWreck up soon. Best yield I ever got off that strain. Quality didnt suffer either. Very sticky. More knuckled out would be my only complaint.

jondamon said:

Sounds like all you're actually doing is triggering early scenesense through over use of bloom stimulators.


Nothing new here really.


A 0-6-5 sulphur based forcing solution will have the same end result.


The only way in which your yield is increasing is because you can fit in another grow during the year so your overall year amounts will be higher but quality and potency will most DEFINATELY suffer.




J

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Not claiming to be anything new as my friend already knew about it as well. Yield was improved, period. Earlier use of the Koolbloom than I did before is most likely the reason. But before I would get 2 weeks of full strength MOAB and Avalanche where this time I only got like 1-2 waterings with those. Critical Plus tested at 24.7% total THC , AFWreck at 26.5% so I think the quality is just fine =) Waiting to find out about the Grape God.

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I'm sorry, i was referring to the strain, Greenribbon.

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Lol. I get ya.
Never heard of it.
Ill check it out if think about it later.

In fact I have some AFwreck at 4-5 weeks using my regular method I can show to compare.

Charface, I looked at your pics. Hard to tell from pics but they look a little different than mine. Could be different stage of flowering though. I think there are two types, one is afghanX trainwreck the other afgoo x trainwreck. Not sure which one I have honestly. People love it though.

I use MOAB also (week 2 after flowers form 1x) and in weeks 7 and 8 1x a week,(I have 9 week plants). stuff works great!!!! sorry, but im calling BS on the 5-7 week harvest time tho.

DemonTrich said:

I use MOAB also (week 2 after flowers form 1x) and in weeks 7 and 8 1x a week,(I have 9 week plants). stuff works great!!!! sorry, but im calling BS on the 5-7 week harvest time tho.

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So you are not using it the first watering / day in bloom ? Are you using Koolbloom full strength starting around day 10 ? Also it is 5-6 week harvest. Not BS just facts on three strains that all take 8-9 weeks normally. I am betting MOAB has PGR in it they dont list. Works so much like other products with PGRs in them.

Why do people on these forums always think everyone is lying about stuff ? I thought the whole point of these forums was to share knowledge and make everyone better growers. Pretty bizarre IMO...

When u say retarded shit that no grower on here have experienced then dnt have pics documenting it ur gonna get a lot of ppl tellin u ur lying. Plus how have u and only u found a magic way to get 5 week 25% thc buds lol u should smack urself. With only 7 posts only on this?? U get onto ur older bros computer?? U sound like a little boy crying wolf.

because you cant speed up mother nature dllpot, not even with a synthetic or organic nutes. if the plant has a photoperiod of 8-10 weeks, then its gonna be 8-10 weeks. what do your trichs look like when your harvesting?

I use moab, technaflora nutes, budswell, and molasses in flower.

jbizness said:

When u say retarded shit that no grower on here have experienced then dnt have pics documenting it ur gonna get a lot of ppl tellin u ur lying. Plus how have u and only u found a magic way to get 5 week 25% thc buds lol u should smack urself. With only 7 posts only on this?? U get onto ur older bros computer?? U sound like a little boy crying wolf.

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LOL ... wow Sharing useful information is considered retarded ? You are the only one in this thread who sounds like they borrowed their older brother's computer. I guess you dont read very well either, maybe some more school would help. Did you bother to read at least one other person backed this up ? WTF is the point of making stuff up ? Doesn't even make sense, at least not to me. Keep growing your way I'll keep growing mine. Been doing this for 9 years as I already stated. Don;t have time for punk kids like you trying to pick a fight because they are frustrated and don't understand.

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because you cant speed up mother nature dllpot, not even with a synthetic or organic nutes. if the plant has a photoperiod of 8-10 weeks, then its gonna be 8-10 weeks. what do your trichs look like when your harvesting?

I use moab, technaflora nutes, budswell, and molasses in flower.

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Its been known for a long time that using PGR (plant growth hormones) early in flower drastically reduces flowering time. My guess is MOAB has PGRs in it. Using the very first watering in bloom triggers bloom much faster. Funny that is exactly what the package says it does too. I just never tried it before. Then using the Koolbloom liquid by day 10 I am sure played a big part too. As others have said its nothing new. Dont get quite as much stretch but they still stretched pretty good. Trichs are all cloudy with a little amber. The test results on THC are simply the same as they were before making these changes. Hell I have 90% of everything else on my normal 8 week period. Everything new will be changed after this great find.

Its no rocket science guys. Its not magic or voodoo either. It is simply forcing the plant to initiate bloom much faster than it naturally does. I tried PGRs before, Bushmaster at about 14 days in. Didnt like the results. Plants didnt yield as well and quality wasnt as good. I used them for a whole week though. This stuff I used only first day of flower and only one watering. Very easy to verify yourselves. Sorry it upsets some of you when someone tells you something you dont understand.