Drop bloom time to 5-6 wks on most strains and increase yield.

Cascadian said:

Anyone could post pics from start to finish and claim any timeline they want.
No they couldn't if they are posting pics of the same plant in real time not making one post with a bunch of pics in it. It would be obvious that the plant was switched out if the pics were high quality close ups... plants are uniquely identifiable.

Honestly what is the point of someone posting a bunch of BS ??? I dont even understand that at all. Doesnt make sense to me. What would be the motive ?
Same reason people lie about their yield all the time here..... EGO

Breakthrough in horticulture ? Hardly and I never touted it as such.
Fine, you didn't use those exact words... but it is exactly what you are claiming you achieved.

I could post a day by day journal and several in here would just say the same BS.
Several will always be that way... haters are going to hate. The point is you would then have evidence and proof. I for one would follow it to the end without harassing you. I respect that kind of effort.

Not some noob
I started growing around 1996 both indoor and outdoor. If I am a noob then you must be like 80...

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dllpot said:

Yes you read that right. I just did an experimental round with several strains. I wasnt even trying to shorten the bloom time honestly. One strain is a 9 week strain and it was totally done at 42 days. Could have been chopped sooner if I had flushed earlier. These are strains I have grown many times before and from the same mother plants. It sounds too good to be true I know but it really works.


Strains this worked on were Grape God, Critical Plus, and AFWreck.

Very first watering in bloom I added MOAB at 1.5 ml per gal. Dropped bloom nutes slightly. Watered the next 9 days with regular bloom nutes. Starting day 10/11 added Kool Bloom liquid. I shit you not at day 30 these plants looked virtually done ! Bigger colas then these same strains are doing on another tray where I did my normal 7 week of nutes and one week flush. Quality looks amazing as well. They finished so fast I only used MOAB for one or two waterings near the end and realized they really were done...... Freaking insane results I never in a million years expected. Only went to 42 days in order to get a decent flush on them. They could have easily been harvested at day 35 with very little loss of weight or potency. Yes at 5 weeks even my 9 week strains AFwreck ! Three strains all did the same thing.

I just wanted to share. I knew MOAB was supposed to help initiate blooming. I had heard some products like Bush Master shorten bloom by 10 days but this is plain crazy. I am truly floored by the results. In 9 years of growing I have never been so surprised by something like this.

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daalma said:

sorry if I sound dumb , but what is this miracle called moab.

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chuck estevez said:

Just gonna leave this here for anyone interested in facts https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/158144-never-ending-abuse-phosphorous-bloom.html

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Aeroknow said:

I just wish uncleben could explain to me why my experiments show it to help with ripening/yields.
Naturally, you need to use it rite. My plants JUST yellow up near chop time. If someone is using it on top of a gnarly bloom formula and to early, they should probably take uncleb's advice. Just saying. Not trying to stir the pot again

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chuck estevez said:

well, isn't that pretty much what UB says in the opening post?

• The question is - "how much P is enough to support a good flowering response and still retain my leaves?"​
  
  
  
  

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StanlySpedowski said:

I know I said I wasn't going to post again, but these are impressive results.

I went to the sclabs web site where both of the tests are from. Did you know that they put every result up online? Along with a lot of the information you blacked out, like the sample id and client name. I found the cotton candy that "you" grew and granny purps had tested here:

http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=140224Q019

The sample ID for your cotton candy is 140224Q019 right there in they link from their site.

What I didn't find was your grape god. Or any strain with grape in it that was tested on the dates you have listed. Also most of the grape strains that i found aren't anywhere near that %.

Why is that? Post up the sample ID from your results so we can see the official results. SCLabs seems to put every single item they test up with this information so why did you choose to black it out?

Im guessing you went in to granny purps and they have a booklet like a lot of the dispensaries have with their test results and you snapped a couple of pics.

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dllpot said:

Yes you read that right. I just did an experimental round with several strains. I wasnt even trying to shorten the bloom time honestly. One strain is a 9 week strain and it was totally done at 42 days. Could have been chopped sooner if I had flushed earlier. These are strains I have grown many times before and from the same mother plants. It sounds too good to be true I know but it really works.


Strains this worked on were Grape God, Critical Plus, and AFWreck.

Very first watering in bloom I added MOAB at 1.5 ml per gal. Dropped bloom nutes slightly. Watered the next 9 days with regular bloom nutes. Starting day 10/11 added Kool Bloom liquid. I shit you not at day 30 these plants looked virtually done ! Bigger colas then these same strains are doing on another tray where I did my normal 7 week of nutes and one week flush. Quality looks amazing as well. They finished so fast I only used MOAB for one or two waterings near the end and realized they really were done...... Freaking insane results I never in a million years expected. Only went to 42 days in order to get a decent flush on them. They could have easily been harvested at day 35 with very little loss of weight or potency. Yes at 5 weeks even my 9 week strains AFwreck ! Three strains all did the same thing.

I just wanted to share. I knew MOAB was supposed to help initiate blooming. I had heard some products like Bush Master shorten bloom by 10 days but this is plain crazy. I am truly floored by the results. In 9 years of growing I have never been so surprised by something like this.

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Aeroknow said:

I just wish uncleben could explain to me why my experiments show it to help with ripening/yields.
Naturally, you need to use it rite. My plants JUST yellow up near chop time. If someone is using it on top of a gnarly bloom formula and to early, they should probably take uncleb's advice. Just saying. Not trying to stir the pot again

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jondamon said:

Sounds like all you're actually doing is triggering early scenesense through over use of bloom stimulators.


Nothing new here really.


A 0-6-5 sulphur based forcing solution will have the same end result.


The only way in which your yield is increasing is because you can fit in another grow during the year so your overall year amounts will be higher but quality and potency will most DEFINATELY suffer.




J

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Devlin1242 said:

Actually i recently bred a Maui Wowie mix called Sarsparilla Sunset. The original Maui was a 9 week strain. When SS is taking from clone and bloom boosters are given at day 1 of flowering, the SS finishes in 6 weeks without being an autoflower and being sativa dominant.

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dllpot said:

I kind of expected that on here actually lol.... I could have been like 90% of other growers and not share my new found "secret". I hate people who dont share so I thought I would. It is VERY easy to prove. Try it.

All this is doing is pushing the plant into bloom much faster than normal. Instead of 3 week stretch it does that in the first 7-10 days. I talked to a fellow grower about my surprising results and turns out he does the same exact thing except he uses phoshoload/bushmaster. He told me at day 35 start flushing. At day 39 the hairs are all orange and trichs are milky. Buds are knuckled out too. Day 42 they are done my most peoples standards. I guess if you wanted 50% amber it might take 49 days on a normally 63 day strain.

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