Drying speed irrelevant to taste, "harshness" and potency [discussion]

Gastanker said:

I think you are just saying that you have a very unsophisticated pallet...

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Well I could entertain that implication with later attention, but since we're on the subject of non sequiturs: what comparisons are supposed to be made between weed and flavonoid foods? It doesn't follow. Bouquet has nothing to do with taste here, since we're smoking it, and as far as I'm aware, the harshness of smoke can only be judged by the irritation of the throat. So the original question of taste still remains untackled.

I'm curious whether anyone here can actually say they enjoy or appreciate or even sense an improvement of the taste of smoking well-cured cannabis to weed that has only just finished drying for example. I don't believe anyone does (but by all means, I'll take a vote of hands), hence why it seems like an irrelevance to me. I'll concede the molecular changes influenced by allowing weed time to ferment but if the goal is to maximise psychoactive potency, the time it would take to allow that change to occur would far outweigh the relatively small increase in the availability of THC; it seems like the only thing curing does is improve the texture and improve the aroma, with a little bit of cannabinoid mixing and matching. Good stuff, but still makes no difference to the person who wants no more than to get high.

Still gonna cure most of my grow, though.

Curing does indeed improve taste and aroma. If all your weed tastes the same, it must be marginal herb. My Grand Daddy Blueberry tastes amazing. It tastes like GDP mixed with blueberries.

EconomySleven said:

I'd recommend investing in a thermo/hygrometer to monitor your drying environment. The guidelines of slow drying usually fall around 20-22C at 40-60% relative humidity. Within those ranges it apparently takes 1-2 weeks.

@bluntmassa: yes, I'm a first time grower. I'm not a first time smoker but neither do I smoke regularly. I should mention that the same early harvested weed I talked about had me "overdosed" once: intense time distortion for many hours, racing thoughts, multiple laughing fits, could feel my aorta contracting and dilating from a rapid heatbeat... I can vouch for potency despite early dried weed. And now that I feel like I've been called out, here's a show and tell of my first grow.

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2nd pic is the top of a 7 inch wide, 16 inch long cola (in soil).

@dvs it's cool, the comment was directed at copreal, which is a rather conspicuous name lol

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That shit looks awsome great job homie. You sir get a rep and a like from me.

off topic... blunt.. is that your dog? if so he abkc registered? pm if you will!

Slow dry is the way to go. I usually take 5-6 days to dry before I put the bud in mason jars to cure. My whole process takes about 2 weeks and the smoke is phenomenal.

EconomySleven said:

I'd recommend investing in a thermo/hygrometer to monitor your drying environment. The guidelines of slow drying usually fall around 20-22C at 40-60% relative humidity. Within those ranges it apparently takes 1-2 weeks.

@bluntmassa: yes, I'm a first time grower. I'm not a first time smoker but neither do I smoke regularly. I should mention that the same early harvested weed I talked about had me "overdosed" once: intense time distortion for many hours, racing thoughts, multiple laughing fits, could feel my aorta contracting and dilating from a rapid heatbeat... I can vouch for potency despite early dried weed. And now that I feel like I've been called out, here's a show and tell of my first grow.

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2nd pic is the top of a 7 inch wide, 16 inch long cola (in soil).

@dvs it's cool, the comment was directed at copreal, which is a rather conspicuous name lol

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When I bought weed I could never afford to buy the kind of pot I can grow...so you will become pickier as you go really...I thought there was no difference at first...early, late, whatever! It's all kinda awesome...but properly dried and cured awesomeness when you open the jar and get hit with the smell...I like that when I open a jar to get a little my husband makes a face on the other side of the room (not a cannabis user). Anyway you for real will become pickier...right now you are just new to just a better quality of pot I think...I mean hell a few years ago I could get my vaporizing leaves off of flowering plants if I had to...but now I would laugh at me doing the same, cuz now I think it would be gross, and somehow beneath me...but not too long ago I did find that you can put jsut about anything off of a flowering plant into a vape and get high...it just sux to do it wrong...

I truly havent found anything with a good flavor... I had chocolope, and church recently (still on church lol) and by far church blew choco away. Now I know most chocolate strains dont taste like chocoloate and most have a taste of coffee but I have yet to run into something that has a flavor of say bluberries and or anything else. Now Im not saying nothing will have flavor but I just havent ran into it. My thing with the choco and church is it was all from the same grower... now with curing they could of fell off the wagon cause I cant say personaly how they did but the church for being weed had a pretty nice dank greeny weedy flavor and that was it where choco had a weedy flavor but wasnt all the great neither was the buzz!!! Dont get me wrong it did its job, but for the hype on it I wasnt impressed and would prefer alot more other strains over that!

oh...and I don't think anything happens to the potency...just the look, smell, taste, and shelf life.

I definitely notice a difference between my cured bud and commercial purchased weed... the difference is phenomenal.. I'm not really sure about potency but I have read (as Gastanker described) about certain cannabanoids changing to THC overtime..

And Guys.. I hate to be an English teacher but you don't taste things with a wooden skid:

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just dry it as slow as you can, leave a little bit of moisture before the cure

Well, here's my 2 cents worth.

I recently bought 2 full grown plants from a more professional grower. 4 1000w HPS in a room, 60+ plants, yada yada yada. I asked for a sample of finished product from those plants, and he agreed.

I grow on t5, and don't get the dense nuggets he gets, but the stuff I got from him still smells like hay, not like weed, even after I attempted to cure it in jars like I am curing mine.

My "homegrown" tastes pleasant, has a definite weed aroma during smoking, and a HUGE difference in smell when you open the mason jar.

His will still get you high as hell, but to me it smells like I grabbed a handful of alfalfa from the side of the road and rolled it.

For harshness, try what I do. Invest in a zig zag rolling machine, and buy a small pack of filters you can get at most smoke shops for those who roll their own cigs. There is a world of difference to me between hitting a pipe, and hitting a filtered joint of the same weed. The filter helps greatly with that harsh burn in your throat.

And even if you have NO idea how to roll a joint, play with that zig zag machine for a little while you will be rolling righteously awesome joints like a pro.

Cobnobuler said:

As a new grower only in my 2nd year I have some issues with the whole drying process myself. Mostly, for me it doesnt matter if its summer or winter or where I hang a plant to dry it, if I left it up for a couple of weeks as some recommend, I would have a naked stem and a pile of dust on the floor. I've tried hanging in different areas of my house and it doesnt seem to matter, its dried out in a matter of 3-4 days every time. And as for curing goes, I've read how it gets danker the longer it is in jars, and it is optimal at say 15 weeks or so ! Hell I'm lucky if I can keep it jarred for 15 days before I need it. I only yield an oz or 2 from each plant. And another thing I found is if I do manage to keep some in jars beyond 3-4 weeks, it begins to dry out in the sealed jars too and I end up dropping a fresh leaf in the jars to put a little moisture back in them. Thats been my reality which is different than everything I read about drying and curing. So, what am I doing wrong?
Now, in the winter, I have forced air heat and I know thats going to speed through the whole process.

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Well it does dry within 3 or 4 days enough to put in jars..then you put it in jars and more inner moisture is pulled to the outside of the buds again..thusly creating a slow and even drying throughout. That is what curing is...

Fresh weed is a lot racier...but can give you headaches as well...so I kind of like it fast...but would prefer it after it has sat for awhile...I like the smoothness...

Cobnobuler said:

As a new grower only in my 2nd year I have some issues with the whole drying process myself. Mostly, for me it doesnt matter if its summer or winter or where I hang a plant to dry it, if I left it up for a couple of weeks as some recommend, I would have a naked stem and a pile of dust on the floor. I've tried hanging in different areas of my house and it doesnt seem to matter, its dried out in a matter of 3-4 days every time. And as for curing goes, I've read how it gets danker the longer it is in jars, and it is optimal at say 15 weeks or so ! Hell I'm lucky if I can keep it jarred for 15 days before I need it. I only yield an oz or 2 from each plant. And another thing I found is if I do manage to keep some in jars beyond 3-4 weeks, it begins to dry out in the sealed jars too and I end up dropping a fresh leaf in the jars to put a little moisture back in them. Thats been my reality which is different than everything I read about drying and curing. So, what am I doing wrong?
Now, in the winter, I have forced air heat and I know thats going to speed through the whole process.

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I can leave my buds out forever and they'll never completely crisp up due to the high resin content. Increase your resin content and you won't have to be as concerned about 'drying out.' Also, my nugs retain their moisture even after months in jars.

lordjin said:

I can leave my buds out forever and they'll never completely crisp up due to the high resin content. Increase your resin content and you won't have to be as concerned about 'drying out.' Also, my nugs retain their moisture even after months in jars.

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I know what you mean, but also you gotta have the right plant to do it with. Some strain suck when it comes to resin production. +rep homie.

REALSTYLES said:

I know what you mean, but also you gotta have the right plant to do it with. Some strain suck when it comes to resin production. +rep homie.

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That too. Thanks.

dvs1038 said:

If u get a green colored light bulb just a regular incandescent one for ur room when u wanna work in there during ur dark periods it will not disrupt their dark times. And usually I only get a different type of high depending on whether its indica or sativa, the cerebral heady high ur talkin about comes more from sativas, and u get more of a body sleepy high from indicas. That is why I prefer to cook with indicas.

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a green colored incandescent WILL interrupt the dark period as they do emit red wavelengths as well which are the wavelengths that the plants use to determine the photoperiod...green leds and then green TRUE PHOSPHOROUS fluorescent would not..

drying and curing is WHAT MAKES IT TASTEFUL AND SMOOTH...not flushing or anything else other than the dry/cure