Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

cruzer101

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8-22-09

Temps 78 res 68°
PPMS 720
PH 5.0

Topped off with a gallon at 800ppm flower nutes brought the res to 740PPMs Ph around 5.5.

The girls are starting to show there colors. I knew I had all female train wreck but wasn't sure about the Widows. I am now.
































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Integra21

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Yeah, widow usually takes longer to show. Seems like most strains with long flower periods do. Took my White Widow 3 weeks to show. Just harvested mine and updated if you want to compare or see what you might end up with. we have similar setups.
 

Earl

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I was looking at your pics a little closer,
and it looks like your right on the edge of burning them.

I would just hold 750 or less.

Just think of 750 in your system,
the same as 1500 in DWC.
Pretty hot nute load.

Are you gonna run this widow for 10 weeks ?
If so then I would start backing down the nute load around week 4.
That's about where you are now ?

My last grow was so good because I kept the nutes load so low.
You got a taste.

Don't try to overfeed.
Underfed is better smoke.

I added some 0-9-18 AN Hammerhead
about 50 ppm to bring the total TDS to 600
and that is a pretty hot load for my system,
I got a little burn
and next time I'll probly keep it below 500.
 

cruzer101

Well-Known Member
I was looking at your pics a little closer,
and it looks like your right on the edge of burning them.

I would just hold 750 or less.

Just think of 750 in your system,
the same as 1500 in DWC.
Pretty hot nute load.

Are you gonna run this widow for 10 weeks ?
If so then I would start backing down the nute load around week 4.
That's about where you are now ?

My last grow was so good because I kept the nutes load so low.
You got a taste.

Don't try to overfeed.
Underfed is better smoke.

I added some 0-9-18 AN Hammerhead
about 50 ppm to bring the total TDS to 600
and that is a pretty hot load for my system,
I got a little burn
and next time I'll probly keep it below 500.
Hi Earl,

Yes, You are right on the money, As you know I usually run a low nute load. I raised it to get more flower nutes in them and try and slow down the stretch. I don't know if that was the reason but they did slow down.

They just finished week three of flower and my next change will be 600PPMs I plan on keeping them there.

I have been training them and after a couple days they try to straighten out. With the top tied down the bottom starts to move and that lifts one side of the root system off the bottom of the tub a bit. It takes a couple days for them to settle down. Take that and the added nute load and yea, I agree I am on the edge of stressing them.

I was wondering about the effects of low Ph. My understanding is in flower you want a little higher Ph like 6.0 so the plant absorbs more of the flower nutes. In my case the Ph drops under 5.0 every day. Sometimes I don't catch it for a few hours. What do you suppose is happening to them with this low PH?

(root porn comming up)
 

cruzer101

Well-Known Member
Yeah, widow usually takes longer to show. Seems like most strains with long flower periods do. Took my White Widow 3 weeks to show. Just harvested mine and updated if you want to compare or see what you might end up with. we have similar setups.
Wow, I just got back from visiting your grow. Yes. Our grows are similar.
I see you have taken a lot of time and effort on your journal.
I must admit at first your journal was hard to read but I saw you fixed that.
Good Job.
 

Integra21

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Wow, I just got back from visiting your grow. Yes. Our grows are similar.
I see you have taken a lot of time and effort on your journal.
I must admit at first your journal was hard to read but I saw you fixed that.
Good Job.
I answered your questions in my thread. thought it was helpful info. as far as the difficult read, i started the journal on another site and moved it here. So it doesn't quite copy as clean and looks much better on the original site, and that also explains why the last couple of updates are smoother than the original.
 

LoudBlunts

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if your pH is dropping every day below 5.0 you have some type of infection, anaerobic bacteria or something else going on
 

cruzer101

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8-23-09

Temps 79 res 68°
PPMs 790
PH 5.0

Girls are looking healthy I got that issue with the ph dropping. A res change tomorrow should help out.

I know I use a hell of a lot more ph up then ph down now with aero.

Got a couple root shots for ya, Its like a carpet under there.






I checked on the second set of clones I took and put in the tub last week, YES! Looks like I got a few to start rooting.
This one had the largest root system of them all.



I think I took these one week into flower so two weeks from cut.







Day 21 12/12

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lilmafia513

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Looking good cruzer!

I love root shots, my next upgrade will be to a hydro of some sort, i lke the DWC idea.
What nutes do you use for your setup?
 

tahoe58

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serious operation with serious results. looking great. thanks for all the great pics. Walk on!!~~~~
 

LoudBlunts

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That sucks, thanks for the heads up though.
So I should change res early and clean it... maybe a little hydrogen peroxide?

its indicative but doesnt necessarily mean its happening to you.....

as long as you staying on your res temps all should be good
 

LoudBlunts

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not a problem


and shall i give another point/advice?

lose the tomato nutes (foxfarm)

lol....no, seriously....

dont beat me up though (folks get mad when i talk about their nutes)
 

cruzer101

Well-Known Member
not a problem


and shall i give another point/advice?

lose the tomato nutes (foxfarm)

lol....no, seriously....

dont beat me up though (folks get mad when i talk about their nutes)
Hey Blunts,

All points/advice is appreciated.

I recently got some Dutch masters additives and was leaning that way for when my tomato juice runs out.

I would guess any A/B formula would work with them.

What would you suggest,


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LoudBlunts

Well-Known Member
dutchmaster is kinda pricey



i'd rock with house & garden

but thas me :p

also when you switch to house & garden, you can say goodbye to nute salt buildup :p
 
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