Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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okay i see you are still in early flower, well dont completely kill it, but i would back off the N some just tad and lower nutes like Earl say
 
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cruzer101

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After getting a good look today and with your input I thought I would train a bit more and
move the light from front to back. Pain in the ass and it doesn't have the intake hooked up.
Gerry rigged ducting with a couple boxes but it works.

Man. What a difference. Now I get the reflection off the far walls and it really gets a better spread.
I will thin it out tomorrow.

Heres this weeks video...


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Thought I forgot huh?
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cruzer101

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I figure three to four weeks yet.

Thanks for the imput guys, I will go ahead and toss this res and start over at 600PPM.
Remove everything under the chain you see even if it is green and thin out the canopy a bit.
 
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cruzer101

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LoudBlunts said:
thank ya for the porn!!!!!

they look great man!
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Sure man,

Thanks for the help. I dumped almost half the res and cooled it down to 800PPM for tonight. Thats all the water I had. I'll get her done tomorrow. er well later today, Im goin to crash. lol
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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you should be alright with 800 and just keep dropping and dropping

gauge it on how many res changes you intend on doing/how ever many you have left planned
 
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cruzer101

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Earl said:
Looks like it time to start reducing the nute load.
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Thanks Earl,

Yea, I have been averaging 600PPM the whole grow it had only been 2 days at around 1000 PPM. I am a believer bro.
By keeping it at 600 when the plant uses the water it uses the nutes to so PPMs drop with the waterline.
I have been adding nutes when I top off, I just added too much last time.
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Integra21

Integra21

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I was refering to my trim under the screen. For you, I would say to cut off all leaves from about 1in. above the chain to the bottom of the plant. And id higher fan leaves are blocking other bud, you can simply tuck them downward out of the way, at least thats how i do it.

 
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cruzer101

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Integra21 said:
I was refering to my trim under the screen. For you, I would say to cut off all leaves from about 1in. above the chain to the bottom of the plant. And id higher fan leaves are blocking other bud, you can simply tuck them downward out of the way, at least thats how i do it.
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OK, I understand now. Thats how I have been doing it in the past its just with how fast these grew and the size of the side branches there is a lot more foliage. I see I have a good root system and stalks I just didn't want to deprive the buds of light. These are going to be my first indoor terminal colas that have not been topped/fimed or messed with besides LST.

Thanks for clearing that up.
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DenseBuds

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From reading your build thread, I think you have a 400 watt HPS in the flowering tent? I'm looking to replicate your setup, and was wondering if you felt the 400 watter was perfect for your cabinet size or if you felt you might want to jump to 600 watt in the future? I'd be doing the DIY cooltube and everything.

Thanks
 
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cruzer101

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DenseBuds said:
From reading your build thread, I think you have a 400 watt HPS in the flowering tent? I'm looking to replicate your setup, and was wondering if you felt the 400 watter was perfect for your cabinet size or if you felt you might want to jump to 600 watt in the future? I'd be doing the DIY cooltube and everything.

Thanks
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Hey DB,

I considered a 600 watt but I went 400 for two reasons. One was a height issue. With a 600 I would need a minimum of a foot clearance. Even with a cool tube. With a 400 I need eight inches. The other reason was I was and I still am very impressed with Phillips Ceramic Metal Halide bulb and that only comes in a 400 watt version for now. Those CFL's are working better then I thought they would for side lighting. So, now that I have seen what this can do if you asked me if I would change it? Nope. Just run the bulb so the sides are pointing towards the farthest area. Hang the lamp Front to back instead of side to side.

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DenseBuds

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I'm looking to allow for maximum height as well. My current tent is just too short. I'll go w/ the 400 and maybe will hook up my current 250 as well for flower or perhaps use it w/ a MH for veg. T5s are doing ok but I've always been curious to see how well a MH would veg.

Thx
 
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cruzer101

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Cool man,
Just want you to know this isn't a regular MH.

This bulb is a Ceramic Metal Halide. Its like a combination of both HPS and MH.
As a matter of fact it runs off a HPS Ballast. You saw the build but maybe you missed it.

In my waterfarm journal 1st grow I used a combination of 400w MH and two 250W HPS hung together. Then about half way through flower I upgraded the MH to a 1000w at a color temp of like 3000k

I lost half of the plants but still ended up with over 1000 grams wet.
Thats why although I am a fan of HPS I believe its missing the blue spectrum and thats what will fatten up the buds late in flower.

Ceramic Metal Halide covers the whole spectrum. You can veg or flower with it. I use T5's also. In my second cabinet I will try and flower with them along with a few CFL's

I want to see what it can do and compare the same strains myself.

If you want to start a journal post a link to it here so we check it out.
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DenseBuds

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cruzer101 said:
Cool man,
Just want you to know this isn't a regular MH.

This bulb is a Ceramic Metal Halide. Its like a combination of both HPS and MH.
As a matter of fact it runs off a HPS Ballast. You saw the build but maybe you missed it.

If you want to start a journal post a link to it here so we check it out.
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I had overlooked that tidbit about a Ceramic MH being different than std MH, thx! that's quite interesting. Though I was just saying I could take my current 250 watt ballast and fire a std MH bulb for my veg tent since I'll be using a 400 for flower. Re: the journal, I'm a ways out from buying everything I need (have to get a new circuit run first too). I'll have to live vicariously through you for a while :).
 
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cruzer101

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Cool with me,
It's just from reading your post it sounded like you missed that part and its a big part of this grow.
Makes me wonder how many others have.
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cruzer101

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OK I got done trimming,
I took everyones advice and knocked out about 15% of the foliage, most of it was under the chain.
I yanked out a small Widow that was under the mess on the right. I tried it before but when I pulled it was stuck.
The roots had a hold. This time I gave it a little yank and it came free so thats out of there too.

I did leave what was budding down there. I'll get a few popcorn buds.

Heres what I cut.












Still plenty of solar collectors.









I like that much better.
Check this out, I hope it don't crack the top of the tub.




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