Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

snow4aaron

snow4aaron

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Hey Cruzer,
Sorry to hear about the mildew and seedlings. I am having difficulties with my op as well. I feel your pain but I am also learning so much. I think you can get them to recover. I nute and PH burned my babies last week and they are just starting to throw out new growth now.

I will be out of town for a 2 weeks with no back up. Do you think I should close down the shop and wait to start fresh again when I return? I have left for 1 week and they did great.
 
DoeEyed

DoeEyed

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I don't think it's a total loss. I agree with the others, go into recovery mode. You may lose one or two but they will bounce back, if you give them a chance. I would just keep an eye out later in life for a possible hermie.
 
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cruzer101

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Thanks for the input everyone.
So the general opinion is to baby them for a bit (life support) and if they recover they should be fine.
Im pretty sure at least 2 of the blueberry are not going to make it.

When I realised what I did I dumped the res and started them on R/O ph 5.8
Starting the PPMs at 10. Its been a couple days and the ppms have gone up to 120

Same deal with the flower grow but its up to 300.
They started using water again and the leaf is not crispy like it was so thats a good sign. Im gonna change it out today with r/o again.

I have over nuted plants in the beginning of flower before and it increased the amount of nodes. I was happy with that but the plants were much larger than these. It's just that I was so pissed off at myself I was ready to toss the seedlings and go get some clones. Those blueberry seeds were like $100 though.

OK they get a thumbs up. A chance to live.
I'll keep ya posted.
 
SomeGuy

SomeGuy

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Good choice cruz. Glad they are coming around a bit. My leaves just got soft again yesterday... Thank GOD!! PH bit me in the ass big time.

Now I realize that this is what probably happened to my last flouro round I had to cut early.... I guess make sure you check ph with the meter every time you use something new.

Also... Found the ph drop culprit. Its the Sensizyme. Takes 7.5 water and with one dose drops it to 5 or less!

You will fix your ladies up fine I know it. :)
 
Earl

Earl

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Stressed plants are very susceptible to disease

Be sure and keep the rez temp cool
and watch out for pH dropping
as an indicator of disease.

Do you have any H2o2 for checking early sign of disease ?

2ml/gl of 35% H2o2 is usually good for a shot
at stopping new potential problems.
 
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cruzer101

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Hum, No I dont have any H2o2.
Its been a couple days now and the ph hasn't dropped. But the plants still look like shit. I dont think they are all gonna make it. I may just keep the best one of each and see if I can keep the strain by making mothers out of them.
 
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cruzer101

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OK, I harvested the girls, got them hanging now.
Looks like I will get about half of what would have been there without the problems. OH well, my bad.


Heres the last shot you will see of the green crack and its powdery mildew,
Its a shame, they were growing just like I wanted them to.




They are in the garbage can now.
I removed everything from the main cab and wipped it down.





Gave it the once over with organoside and wipped it down again.





Then I cit a hole in the top mounted the fan on top of the cab and re-routed the exhaust.
Heres a before shot,





After Shot of the clearence.






I picked up a four inches. Now I got 43" to the bottom of the bulb at full height. Heres all the way up.









Next I got to thinking about what I can do so this wont happen in the future and that means spending money on the grow.

I ordered two new thermostats, three PCI slot fans and a replacement TDS meter.

Heres the new exhaust thermostat, AIR-2: Temperature & Humidity Controller
I like the remote probe. It will also controll my new dehumidifer. $123





This one will run the heaters and a fan.
I know its a bit more than others but it will controll both heat or cool.
Also look at that coil, I think this will be more accurate. $46





The waterproof PPM pen. Its suspose to float.
I have an older one like this, it still works but has problems. Hell, I bought it used like a year ago. This one has one button calabration instead of turning a tiny screw. I can never get mine to calabrate right. $68





By the way guys, I got them all at that same site but there site design sucks. Not very easy to navagate.


Growing in a cabinet has its challanges, one is I need ventlation but can fit a decent size fan in there.
Heres what I came up with. I have one inch slits cut in the shelf for passive ventlation. These are wider then the normal PCI fan. they are twice the width, so 1 5/8 inches wide by about 3.5 inches long and bout 6 inches deep.


Thermalake TMG SL1 Slot cooler.
I got three comming. Two for the back and one for the front. $35

That ought to do it.
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DoeEyed

DoeEyed

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I'm sorry to hear you lost so much of your crop, my friend. Sounds like you might have it licked in the future though! Good finds.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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to bad about those qirls. Interesting fan problem, but if you wanted to run a real fan, couldnt you mount it to the outside back of the cabinet? Any of the large fans for exhaust would be fairly easy to mount on the outside. Sucks about the green crack to. If you have a problem down the road with that pm still, you might want to look into a sulfer burner. They are usually meant for larger spaces, but you might be able to find one small enough to use. But on a positive note, that organocide works great at destroying the mites. Good look and I look forward to seeing the operation up and running again.
 
tom__420

tom__420

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Nice purchases Cruzer
Are you planning on hardwiring your exhaust fan(s) directly to the thermostat or will you purchase a piggyback plug?
 
SomeGuy

SomeGuy

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That heater/fan thermostat will work great for you. That is what I am running to control my cabinet exhaust. I am sorry for you losing your crop as well. :( Your next round will kick ass man! I hope you dont give up on the hempy, looks like you really had those going good.
 
cutman

cutman

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youll like that pen i have one just like it and it dose float. easy to calabrate. keep on keep on i and we know you will. i got my hawaiian hanging now as well
 
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cruzer101

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DoeEyed said:
I'm sorry to hear you lost so much of your crop, my friend. Sounds like you might have it licked in the future though! Good finds.
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Thanks for the confidence. I think I got it but only time will tell.

Integra21 said:
to bad about those qirls. Interesting fan problem, but if you wanted to run a real fan, couldnt you mount it to the outside back of the cabinet? Any of the large fans for exhaust would be fairly easy to mount on the outside. Sucks about the green crack to. If you have a problem down the road with that pm still, you might want to look into a sulfer burner. They are usually meant for larger spaces, but you might be able to find one small enough to use. But on a positive note, that organocide works great at destroying the mites. Good look and I look forward to seeing the operation up and running again.
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Sound is a major consideration, the cabs are in the same room as tv and computer. My exhaust fan is a panasonic wisper fan squirrel cage design at 80 CFM. This replaces all the air in the growing chamber 3 time a minute when its on. Sure its made for a bathroom but it is quieter then anything else. Thats what I just cut the hole for and mounted on the top. Its vented out the window box. If I were to say pick up a 300 cfm inline fan it would be way to much for what I got going on. These fans I just got are to move the air around between the upper and lower portions of the cab, there is usually a 10° difference.
Yea, sucks I had to toss the green crack but I do not want this shit happening again. In regards to a burner, thanks for the info but I also think a sulfer burner would be too much for this small space.

tom__420 said:
Nice purchases Cruzer
Are you planning on hardwiring your exhaust fan(s) directly to the thermostat or will you purchase a piggyback plug?
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The thermostat will control the main exhaust and the two small 4 in fans. It will also controll the new humidifier.
Then the new PIC slot fans are for circulation inside the cab. I plan on putting them on a 15 min increment timer. While lights are on 30 on 30 off. When lights off 15 on 45 off. The second thermostat is for those cerramic heaters I got. They are now placed in the lower chamber directly under the slot fans. So, cool air comes in from underneath and is pushed up by the fans, then when it gets cold the heaters will come on under the shelf and the cool air will be replaced with warm dry air.

Thats the idea anyway. Once I get it setup I will take some shots so its eaiser to understand.

By the way people, I am trying to figure out how I can grow in my yard without the neighbor kids stealing it.
Any ideas?
 
snow4aaron

snow4aaron

Active Member
cruzer101 said:
By the way people, I am trying to figure out how I can grow in my yard without the neighbor kids stealing it.
Any ideas?
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Hey Cruzer,
I got some green crack clones that had powdery mildew also. I tossed them out as well. Strange.

I would also like to know the answer to this question. I have thought about a little green house?
 
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cruzer101

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Ha!

Years ago I had a Saint Bernard, named him Barney. He pretty much kept to himself.
All he wanted was to be fed and fuck the bitches, I fed him an bread him. $250 stud fee or a pick of the litter. He didnt like kids at all. As a matter of fact he bit into the center of this kid. Looked like a fuckin shark bite. tooth holes from left of the kids navel to his back. One bite.
Yea, I had to get rid of him. Sold him to a guy with some property.

Thats what I need, build a greenhouse/doghouse and get a pit bull and tell him its home.
 
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mikegreenthumb

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cruzer101 said:
Ha!

Years ago I had a Saint Bernard, named him Barney. He pretty much kept to himself.
All he wanted was to be fed and fuck the bitches, I fed him an bread him. $250 stud fee or a pick of the litter. He didnt like kids at all. As a matter of fact he bit into the center of this kid. Looked like a fuckin shark bite. tooth holes from left of the kids navel to his back. One bite.
Yea, I had to get rid of him. Sold him to a guy with some property.

Thats what I need, build a greenhouse/doghouse and get a pit bull and tell him its home.
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i got a pack o pits and they hang out sunbath next to my outdoor plants there hella smart had a lil issues at first with youngest but now they ALL know those are daddys other babies and they watch em its a pretty cool thing to watch such a beasty breed be gentle with/ around my plants my middle one is the most protective if she hears a pindrop outside she jumps up and takes off tword the backyard via doggie door all in one motion

such a cool thing
 
Fred Flintstoner

Fred Flintstoner

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Agreed :) My dog is a mut mix of pitbull, chow, and lab. She has bitten a friend who decided not to knock, chased a UPS guy into his truck literally, and only barks and gets on edge when there is an actual problem. No training required, just got lucky with this one as she is the best watch dog I have ever had.

Pound Pups rule.
 
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Mr. Mojo Risin'

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Now that I know you are a poker player I have a problem maybe you could help with. There is this little hottie at my local card room. She always brings really good pot and invites me to smoke. Being a guy I have to go but not long after our little break I always get broke!! Maybe I need to find something to bring with me that I can still think after...IDK
 
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