Dudes, is my girl doomed?

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Slyclyde1991

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Shes been yellowing and loosing leaves for awhile now, I think I vegged her too long, almost 3 months, in soil, I've given her some doses of nutes in veg she was doing great, ever since flower, on week 4 now, shes been dying, I flushed her and gave her a good dose of Heavy Sixteen's Fire, that didnt help, I read maybe 15-5-15 cal mag will help? Idk if there is any help left for this girl man, sucks because she smells amazing and is so frosty already! Any help appreciated!
 

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Wizzlebiz

Wizzlebiz

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I dont even know where to begin...

So im not going to talk about the plant in question. Im gonna talk about the one to the left of it. And assume you have done the same process to the one you speak of.

The one to the left has alot of nitrogen toxicity. Alot. I assume you grow all of them the same. So I am going to assume you caused a major lockout of damn near all nutrients.

The reason I am saying that is because the one you speak of has significant issues from top to bottom. Which means you have not only messed up the mobile nutrient but also screwed the immobile nutrients as well.

Flushing and the subsequently slamming it with more nutes definitely didn't help.

I legit don't know where to begin to save that.
 
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Caliverner

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Wizzlebiz said:
I dont even know where to begin...

So im not going to talk about the plant in question. Im gonna talk about the one to the left of it. And assume you have done the same process to the one you speak of.

The one to the left has alot of nitrogen toxicity. Alot. I assume you grow all of them the same. So I am going to assume you caused a major lockout of damn near all nutrients.

The reason I am saying that is because the one you speak of has significant issues from top to bottom. Which means you have not only messed up the mobile nutrient but also screwed the immobile nutrients as well.

Flushing and the subsequently slamming it with more nutes definitely didn't help.

I legit don't know where to begin to save that.
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Dammm
 
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BanjoPu$$ywhistle

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You have large amounts of salts built up in your soil causing your plant to be locked out. You need to go to Walmart or dollar general or wherever and get some gallon jugs of purified drinking water. READ LABEL AND MAKE SURE IT IS SOURCED FROM REVERSE OSMOSIS. Bring that home and water it until you start seeing run off. no nutes just water. Do this every time you water for a week. After that you can ease some nutes back into the water. I would start at 250-350 ppm.
 
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Slyclyde1991

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I haven't read all the replays, but just want to clear some things up, the other 3 younger plants are 1st, autos, 2nd in a coco, perlite mix with dry nutrients unlike the photo in soil, 3rd its watering day which I haven't done yet, and the 3 small ones were just bag seed autos I started about 6 weeks old, the sick girl is about 16 weeks. It's not my first time growing, I've cultivated some bomb ass shit. They are under a Spectrum King 402 led
 
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Slyclyde1991

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BanjoPu$$ywhistle said:
You have large amounts of salts built up in your soil causing your plant to be locked out. You need to go to Walmart or dollar general or wherever and get some gallon jugs of purified drinking water. READ LABEL AND MAKE SURE IT IS SOURCED FROM REVERSE OSMOSIS. Bring that home and water it until you start seeing run off. no nutes just water. Do this every time you water for a week. After that you can ease some nutes back into the water. I would start at 250-350 ppm.
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That's exactly what I did already my man, because I thought the same thing, flushed her completely, then after about a week and a half gave her the heavy fire and a couple other things at 275ppm, gave her some time to absorb em, and nothing, shes just getting worse
 
curious2garden

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Slyclyde1991 said:
That's exactly what I did already my man, because I thought the same thing, flushed her completely, then after about a week and a half gave her the heavy fire and a couple other things at 275ppm, gave her some time to absorb em, and nothing, shes just getting worse
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You need to feed that plant. She needs all the nutrients NPK. Your soil is out of nutrients. I'd transplant her to coco/perlite and treat her as hydro until the end. Good luck
 
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Slyclyde1991

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curious2garden said:
You need to feed that plant. She needs all the nutrients NPK. Your soil is out of nutrients. I'd transplant her to coco/perlite and treat her as hydro until the end. Good luck
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Yea I was thinking about transplanting her but thought the transplant shock would definitely put her over the edge, but I guess at this point it doesnt matter because shes probably gonna die weather I do or dont so why not try right lol?
 
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Slyclyde1991

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Wizzlebiz said:
I dont even know where to begin...

So im not going to talk about the plant in question. Im gonna talk about the one to the left of it. And assume you have done the same process to the one you speak of.

The one to the left has alot of nitrogen toxicity. Alot. I assume you grow all of them the same. So I am going to assume you caused a major lockout of damn near all nutrients.

The reason I am saying that is because the one you speak of has significant issues from top to bottom. Which means you have not only messed up the mobile nutrient but also screwed the immobile nutrients as well.

Flushing and the subsequently slamming it with more nutes definitely didn't help.

I legit don't know where to begin to save that.
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I cleared some things up with what you said in my last comment, but my other plants are just fine, they dont have N toxicity at all, maybe it looks that way in the pic because its watering day and they look super green next to my sick girl, but they're good, and I didnt 'flush her and then slam her with nutes" I flushed her, let her pot get light to pick up, then gave her 275ppm of nutes, which is hardly 'slamming' I appreciate everyone's time and advice but I feel like alot of you are coming off as a little demeaning? Maybe I'm wrong, I hope I am, because I'm a nice person just asking the community for their thoughts.
 
Wizzlebiz

Wizzlebiz

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Slyclyde1991 said:
I cleared some things up with what you said in my last comment, but my other plants are just fine, they dont have N toxicity at all, maybe it looks that way in the pic because its watering day and they look super green next to my sick girl, but they're good, and I didnt 'flush her and then slam her with nutes" I flushed her, let her pot get light to pick up, then gave her 275ppm of nutes, which is hardly 'slamming' I appreciate everyone's time and advice but I feel like alot of you are coming off as a little demeaning? Maybe I'm wrong, I hope I am, because I'm a nice person just asking the community for their thoughts.
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I wasnt intending to be demeaning. I took "gave her a good dose" as you loaded her up. My bad for misinterpreting your statement.

Good luck in your endeavors. I do still believe you have nitrogen toxicity in the plant to the left.
 
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Slyclyde1991

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Wizzlebiz said:
I wasnt intending to be demeaning. I took "gave her a good dose" as you loaded her up. My bad for misinterpreting your statement.

Good luck in your endeavors. I do still believe you have nitrogen toxicity in the plant to the left.
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Alright thanks man, I appreciate that. I can see how I made that sound. I dont see how the one to left could possibly have nitrogen toxicity though, it's in coco and perlite amendended with a conservative amount slow release dry fertilizer, I haven't given it any nutes or even top dressed yet, just water
 
xtsho

xtsho

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You flushed and then just fed a 1-10-16 bloom booster.

From the curled leaves it looks like you overfed one way and then overcompensated the other way.

Adding a 15-5-15 fertilizer now to that yellow plant isn't going to green it up at this point. Those leaves are going to slowly shrivel up and die. Just feed the damn plant base nutes, call it a day, and harvest what you can. No calmag, flushing, fairy dust, etc... is going to fix that plant.



BanjoPu$$ywhistle said:
You have large amounts of salts built up in your soil causing your plant to be locked out. You need to go to Walmart or dollar general or wherever and get some gallon jugs of purified drinking water. READ LABEL AND MAKE SURE IT IS SOURCED FROM REVERSE OSMOSIS. Bring that home and water it until you start seeing run off. no nutes just water. Do this every time you water for a week. After that you can ease some nutes back into the water. I would start at 250-350 ppm.
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And just how is buying water from walmart and flushing for another week going to help that plant?
 
Doug Dawson

Doug Dawson

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Slyclyde1991 said:
Alright thanks man, I appreciate that. I can see how I made that sound. I dont see how the one to left could possibly have nitrogen toxicity though, it's in coco and perlite amendended with a conservative amount slow release dry fertilizer, I haven't given it any nutes or even top dressed yet, just water
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Slow release fertilizer and top dressing coco? It sounds like you are treating it like soil. I could be wrong but it seems like that is just asking for trouble. Coco should be fed daily to runoff and as the need goes up more than once a day.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Doug Dawson said:
Slow release fertilizer and top dressing coco? It sounds like you are treating it like soil. I could be wrong but it seems like that is just asking for trouble. Coco should be fed daily to runoff and as the need goes up more than once a day.
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I got the same impression.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Slyclyde1991 said:
Alright thanks man, I appreciate that. I can see how I made that sound. I dont see how the one to left could possibly have nitrogen toxicity though, it's in coco and perlite amendended with a conservative amount slow release dry fertilizer, I haven't given it any nutes or even top dressed yet, just water
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Your going to fuck up these plants doing this.
 
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