Dukes - (Mars Hydro FC4800) July 22' grow *NL1*

Rurumo

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Right now most of the growth is going on in the root system, those plants should kick into much faster growth very soon. It's hard to grow small plants in big pots vs growing in small pots and transplanting up, because you don't water big pots as frequently and they don't dry out as frequently. You're doing very well keeping them healthy and not overwatering-the yucca extract will help a LOT with getting that media evenly moist when you do feed/water. Leaf taco can be caused by high temps, but def not low 80s- a significant drop in RH compared to what they are used to can also cause it, as can too much airflow over the plant. Pretty much anything that can affect the moisture balance in a plant. I see in your last picture it's already looking better. Keep up the good work Duke!
 
DrDukePHD

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Rurumo said:
Right now most of the growth is going on in the root system, those plants should kick into much faster growth very soon. It's hard to grow small plants in big pots vs growing in small pots and transplanting up, because you don't water big pots as frequently and they don't dry out as frequently. You're doing very well keeping them healthy and not overwatering-the yucca extract will help a LOT with getting that media evenly moist when you do feed/water. Leaf taco can be caused by high temps, but def not low 80s- a significant drop in RH compared to what they are used to can also cause it, as can too much airflow over the plant. Pretty much anything that can affect the moisture balance in a plant. I see in your last picture it's already looking better. Keep up the good work Duke!
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Ahhh awesome, ok well they've never been over 82F (and even then, maybe it hit 83F once for an hour). Max temp was set to 82, I since lowered it to 79, then back up to 80. RH is always steady between 49%(dry soil) & 60% after watering for a few days. Average of 56%. So it must have been too much Airflow! Just weird that 2 plants are almost unphased.

The GS Plant Yucca extract powder, Neem extract, Southern Ag Garden Friendly Fungicide & new mist bottles are on the way!! Ordered it last night, excited to get proper IPM implimented.

Btw silly question, what do you use to measure 1ml/5ml liquid amounts & 1/8th dry teaspoons. I just realized i don't have anything to measure that stuff, doh! I do however have a scale, so i can measure out a gram of dry powder.
 
Rurumo

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DrDukePHD said:
Ahhh awesome, ok well they've never been over 82F (and even then, maybe it hit 83F once for an hour). Max temp was set to 82, I since lowered it to 79, then back up to 80. RH is always steady between 49%(dry soil) & 60% after watering for a few days. Average of 56%. So it must have been too much Airflow! Just weird that 2 plants are almost unphased.

The GS Plant Yucca extract powder, Neem extract, Southern Ag Garden Friendly Fungicide & new mist bottles are on the way!! Ordered it last night, excited to get proper IPM implimented.

Btw silly question, what do you use to measure 1ml/5ml liquid amounts & 1/8th dry teaspoons. I just realized i don't have anything to measure that stuff, doh! I do however have a scale, so i can measure out a gram of dry powder.
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Actually, if you can get them as cheap as Ben does, I'd try to find them at a Pharmacy someplace. I also use assorted plastic syringes, I buy a big bag of mixed sizes on Amazon. I probably have 4 different sizes at my "feeding station." I keep a little one just for my silicic acid, so as not to contaminate it, but most I use freely without washing between fulvic acid, kelp extract, Southern Ag GFF, etc. I also keep a big one separate just for neem oil, so that doesn't junk up the works.
 
DrDukePHD

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BenGman said:
I personally buy syringes from the chemist for like around a buck for 10ml ones , makes my life a little easier just sucking it out the bottle and specially with PH down ; )
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Rurumo said:
Actually, if you can get them as cheap as Ben does, I'd try to find them at a Pharmacy someplace. I also use assorted plastic syringes, I buy a big bag of mixed sizes on Amazon. I probably have 4 different sizes at my "feeding station." I keep a little one just for my silicic acid, so as not to contaminate it, but most I use freely without washing between fulvic acid, kelp extract, Southern Ag GFF, etc. I also keep a big one separate just for neem oil, so that doesn't junk up the works.
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Syringes it is! I'll hit up the discount medical store downtown. I got a 1/8th tsp ordered too, think I'm all set now, thanks!
 
Smscreations

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DrDukePHD said:
Thanks Ben, I was planning to top em & eventually (after sexing) setup the squared net to spread out the branches. I wouldn't even know where to start LST'ng these tiny plants, guess I better start watching videos on it?
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Hey Duke, if you check out my Mini Fridge thread in the journals you can see how I LST'd my tiny plant starting around week 2 in veg. She only had a few nodes before I started flattening her out!

Everything is looking good BTW!!
 
DrDukePHD

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CaliRootz88 said:
Coming along greatly! DrDuke! :hump:
Are you using any products for microbes/bacterias/fungi’s?
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Thanks man! I used Great White myco in layers all throughout 5gal soil at transplant time, i'm using some fish sh!t sample i got with every watering & i got Southern Ag FF coming this week, which apparently contains beneficials too. Any other suggestions?
 
DrDukePHD

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8/14
(DAY #33)
8-)
Light @22.5 inchs & 35-40% dimming

Today 2 got watered, 2 did not (still not light). Latest watering routine:
Yucca Extract 1/8th tsp, 1 drop microbe-lift bmc, 1ml AGFF, 2ml fish sh!t

Topped all 4 plants at the 7th node, one at 8th node.

Will start new preventative foliar IPM routine after plants recover from topping. (neem, southern ag GFF,) & yucca powder)
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BenGman

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So strange how I'm still seeing signs of heat stress on the leaf, like leds don't even put out as much heat as a hps, and can even deal with a little higher temp (it's recommended).

But they still looking great Mate, praying they all girls for ya..and a male if you are looking to breed em.
 
DrDukePHD

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BenGman said:
So strange how I'm still seeing signs of heat stress on the leaf, like leds don't even put out as much heat as a hps, and can even deal with a little higher temp (it's recommended).

But they still looking great Mate, praying they all girls for ya..and a male if you are looking to breed em.
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Yup the light is almost 2ft high, not even at half power & the temp is now 79f, humidity always over 50%, so I can't imagine why its showing heat stress.
 
RIS

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DrDukePHD said:
8/14
(DAY #33)
8-)
Light @22.5 inchs & 35-40% dimming

Today 2 got watered, 2 did not (still not light). Latest watering routine:
Yucca Extract 1/8th tsp, 1 drop microbe-lift bmc, 1ml AGFF, 2ml fish sh!t

Topped all 4 plants at the 7th node, one at 8th node.

Will start new preventative foliar IPM routine after plants recover from topping. (neem, southern ag GFF,) & yucca powder)
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I got myself some neem powder from down to earth so my fingers are crossed .
 
RIS

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Looking good though. I noticed where you had that temp sensor I always wanted to ask where people put that in the tent. I went with a little over or at the canopy level. I keep it in between two lights so it's not direct light or heat, I feel like the metal sensor throughs it off.
 
DrDukePHD

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RIS said:
Looking good though. I noticed where you had that temp sensor I always wanted to ask where people put that in the tent. I went with a little over or at the canopy level. I keep it in between two lights so it's not direct light or heat, I feel like the metal sensor throughs it off.
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Thanks RiS! Yup the sensor is at canopy height & not under the light. Ok Cool I will give em a light tug to check.

farmerfischer said:
They're coming along nicely.. looking good duke
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Thanks FF! They started growing better the moment I stopped stressing about it. Think there might be some connection there lol :-)




Also, I'm not 100% yet but i think 3/4 of these are males, lmao. If that holds up, it'll be 2 grows in a row with 4 plants but only ONE female, haaah
 
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