DWC VS. Bubblebonics who will win
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UnderCurrentDWC
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^^^^^^^^
I agree & had the same experience using suretogrow medium.
No more manifolds or top drip for me.
BluBerry
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Really need to try and keep temps below 70. 65-68 is ideal for me
Vumar
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Ive ran temps (with a water pump) as high as 75-89 degrees Fahrenheit (left un-attended for a weekend). I didnt have h202 or dutchmaster root zone at the time and I still didnt get algae. My DWC without a pump though might be a different story =X Ive noticed brown slimey shit at the tips of the roots at like 70 degrees.
>the roots in dwc and have alot more trouble finding there way to the water source the roots go wild with the bubble the roots went straight to the water and started rapid growth...
Like others have said,the term Bubbleponics and DWC are different words for the same thing. The point is that the bubbles add dissolved oxygen to the water. With your setup, you're just using a pump to get the water up to the roots when you should have the water level up to where it covers the bottom of the netpots. If there is a gap between the netpots and the water, your roots will dry out. And by the way, roots will not simply venture out into thin air simply because you place the water somewhere below the basket. Roots can't see. If the water is close enough that the netpots are getting splashes from the popping bubbles, then maybe the roots will slowly venture down out of the basket and maybe they'll eventually reach the water. I doubt it. I'm actually surprised that your DWC babies without drippers are still alive at all.
If you raise that water level up, then the roots will get the o2 they need and the motor & drippers will all be a mute point because you can't get the roots more wet, and they can't tell if you're dropping the water on them from above or if it's bubbling up from below - they don't care.
If you're doing this on a short term basis, then you can try to chill your room with AC and you can add some frozen water bottles to the nute/water mix to help lower the water temp. If you're doing this on a long term basis, you're going to need a chiller. Water holds the most dissolved o2 at 68F and if you go above 75F you'll get root rot after about a week. Believe me, I've done it myself when I was first assembling my own system. Once I set up a system to cool my babies by circulating a hose from the flower side through the DWC tanks on the Veg side, now the water stays at about 70F and the babies are loving it. Sure you can get away with higher temps for a few days, but your plants can't breathe, so the roots will die and root rot will eventually get you. Good luck
Like others have said,the term Bubbleponics and DWC are different words for the same thing. The point is that the bubbles add dissolved oxygen to the water. With your setup, you're just using a pump to get the water up to the roots when you should have the water level up to where it covers the bottom of the netpots. If there is a gap between the netpots and the water, your roots will dry out. And by the way, roots will not simply venture out into thin air simply because you place the water somewhere below the basket. Roots can't see. If the water is close enough that the netpots are getting splashes from the popping bubbles, then maybe the roots will slowly venture down out of the basket and maybe they'll eventually reach the water. I doubt it. I'm actually surprised that your DWC babies without drippers are still alive at all.
If you raise that water level up, then the roots will get the o2 they need and the motor & drippers will all be a mute point because you can't get the roots more wet, and they can't tell if you're dropping the water on them from above or if it's bubbling up from below - they don't care.
If you're doing this on a short term basis, then you can try to chill your room with AC and you can add some frozen water bottles to the nute/water mix to help lower the water temp. If you're doing this on a long term basis, you're going to need a chiller. Water holds the most dissolved o2 at 68F and if you go above 75F you'll get root rot after about a week. Believe me, I've done it myself when I was first assembling my own system. Once I set up a system to cool my babies by circulating a hose from the flower side through the DWC tanks on the Veg side, now the water stays at about 70F and the babies are loving it. Sure you can get away with higher temps for a few days, but your plants can't breathe, so the roots will die and root rot will eventually get you. Good luck
Illegal Smile
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It's ironic that stealth hydroponics used the term bubbleponics for their gimmicky tote dwc system. Bubbles are the best way to feed new plants until their roots are in the water. The water pump and tubes are supposedly an improvement. That's the gimmick because they are not an improvement. They should call it tube-ponics. It's unreliable and causes more problems that it solves (which is zero).
People can run tests all they want but at best tube feeding will get roots in the water two days sooner than a good bubble system. Over the life of the plant that two days means nothing - dozens of factors will slow or speed the plant's progress more than that.
Bubbleponics is a joke - especially since it repudiates bubbles and relies on tubes. It was intended to sell kits and nothing more. In this business, there's a sucker born every half second.
People can run tests all they want but at best tube feeding will get roots in the water two days sooner than a good bubble system. Over the life of the plant that two days means nothing - dozens of factors will slow or speed the plant's progress more than that.
Bubbleponics is a joke - especially since it repudiates bubbles and relies on tubes. It was intended to sell kits and nothing more. In this business, there's a sucker born every half second.
BigBuddahCheese
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I use 2 gallon buckets 3.75" net pots and one 1" cylinder air-stone, water to bottom net pot only. I win...
I guess if this is a biggest pecker DWC/Bubble swing off...
I agree also on the gimmicks but it doesn't stop at that its every aspect of MMJ growing, yet 95% of the mindless will jump on the wagon until the next one comes along.
I guess if this is a biggest pecker DWC/Bubble swing off...
I agree also on the gimmicks but it doesn't stop at that its every aspect of MMJ growing, yet 95% of the mindless will jump on the wagon until the next one comes along.
Can you imagine a world without punctuation? I hate when I read old threads thinking they are something new.
BigBuddahCheese
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Laughing out loud because.... LOL is only 3 characters.