Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

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kdub86

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Hey homebrewer, first off I must say this has been the best read so far on this forum for me, I'm definitely considering using dyna-gro now.

I remember a post somewhere where you told someone to pm you for more information on your feeding schedule and amounts for using dg in soil, but as you can see I don't have enough posts here yet to do that. Anyway, I would really appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction for some more info on how you personally use dg for soil. Thanks again!
 
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mdanforth

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I'm not HB but...everyones setup is different so everyones feeding schedule is different. Example...lets say I'm running 6K of HPS and co2 in my flower room.... my ppms and transpiration rate would be greater than someone running 2 600 watt and no co2, also if I'm using RO i'd hafta run cal/mag where perhaps someone with tap water might not.....learning to read your plants and let them tell you how much to feed and how often is the best schedule to use....
 
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kdub86

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mdanforth said:
I'm not HB but...everyones setup is different so everyones feeding schedule is different. Example...lets say I'm running 6K of HPS and co2 in my flower room.... my ppms and transpiration rate would be greater than someone running 2 600 watt and no co2, also if I'm using RO i'd hafta run cal/mag where perhaps someone with tap water might not.....learning to read your plants and let them tell you how much to feed and how often is the best schedule to use....
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Thank you, and yes I completely understand that, my setup is definitely different I'm just looking for a good reference to start with when I switch to dg
 
Rick Ratlin

Rick Ratlin

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I don't want to hijack your thread homebrewer, but as dg users have congregated here, here's my question. I have a gallon of bloom, and when I was mixing it today, I noticed that something has solidified in the bottle. When I shake it, it sounds like chunks of rocks are in the bottle. How can I fix this? No freezing conditions, nutes stay in a dark cabinet about 70 degrees fahrenheit.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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kdub86 said:
Hey homebrewer, first off I must say this has been the best read so far on this forum for me, I'm definitely considering using dyna-gro now.

I remember a post somewhere where you told someone to pm you for more information on your feeding schedule and amounts for using dg in soil, but as you can see I don't have enough posts here yet to do that. Anyway, I would really appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction for some more info on how you personally use dg for soil. Thanks again!
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Technically I don't use soil, I use promix or sunshine mix. I premix my base nutes at a 2:1 ratio of bloom to grow, then feed maybe 3mls/gallon when the ladies need fed. That's what I do during flower and as others have stated, your mileage may vary depending on your water source and environment.

Rick Ratlin said:
I don't want to hijack your thread homebrewer, but as dg users have congregated here, here's my question. I have a gallon of bloom, and when I was mixing it today, I noticed that something has solidified in the bottle. When I shake it, it sounds like chunks of rocks are in the bottle. How can I fix this? No freezing conditions, nutes stay in a dark cabinet about 70 degrees fahrenheit.
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I have never noticed this with full gallons, BUT, as I get near the end of a jug, I have noticed some chunks at the bottom occasionally. It's not a frequent occurrence but I've noticed this with other fertilizers too. I can only imagine that the gallons were sitting in the store for quite some time until I put them to good use. I have yet to see issues related to this but again, this is an infrequent occurrence for me anyways (regardless of brand).
 
irishboy

irishboy

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burrr said:


Durban poison on dynagrow bloom, 375 ppm day 34 and lookin awesome.
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my plants were loving the low nutes also. i wasn't paying attion and was feeding like 5ml in 5gal of water in a soiless mix and the plants were loving it! this was in veg though
 
shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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This happens with Bloom and Foliage Pro in gallon sizes. As per the label, you can dilute the contents of the gallon along with the precipitate with an equal amount of warm water, shake well, and it will go back into solution. I have done this with Foliage Pro without ill effect. I wonder how this might affect the nute ratio though.

The gallons I buy don't contain any precipitate at the time of purchase and I have a theory that storing them on the cold flood of my basement in winter may be part of the problem. Dunno for sure. I use about 2 gallons of Bloom a year, so it doesn't stick around that long. I'm still flowering at 700 ppm. I guess I'm going to drop my levels lower along with you guys.

homebrewer said:
Technically I don't use soil, I use promix or sunshine mix. I premix my base nutes at a 2:1 ratio of bloom to grow, then feed maybe 3mls/gallon when the ladies need fed. That's what I do during flower and as others have stated, your mileage may vary depending on your water source and environment.


I have never noticed this with full gallons, BUT, as I get near the end of a jug, I have noticed some chunks at the bottom occasionally. It's not a frequent occurrence but I've noticed this with other fertilizers too. I can only imagine that the gallons were sitting in the store for quite some time until I put them to good use. I have yet to see issues related to this but again, this is an infrequent occurrence for me anyways (regardless of brand).
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indoorherbs

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Shocking. He found exactly what he decided ahead of time he wanted to find.

Dude, you spend so much time and effort on forums hating on Advanced Nutrients and bad-mouthing anyone who uses them I don't see how I or anyone else can really believe you didn't sabotage the AN grow in some way. Either consciously or subconsciously. I know from personal experience that when it's dialed in properly it kicks ass.
 
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lunchbox421

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Hey Homebrewer by chance do you use airstones or a recirculating pump in your res? I have a 40 gal res and ~250gph pump on full time mixing the water but I think it's raising my water temp too much, around 78f. With this I find I'm getting a little algae as well so I'm thowing in some h2o2 every few days and it clears it right up. Thinking I might put it on a recycle timer so it's not constantly on or throwing the airstones in might to maybe keep things mixed up without the added heat but I've heard conflicting accounts of yea v nay on airstones. Also if by using nothing do you think/see there will be any fall out. Dyna seems to mix up well with the water and I don't notice any particles floating around, like for instance with liquid karma and the such. Just wanted your 2 cents. Thanks again and keep up the good work. Be Safe!
 
burrr

burrr

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indoorherbs said:
Shocking. He found exactly what he decided ahead of time he wanted to find.

Dude, you spend so much time and effort on forums hating on Advanced Nutrients and bad-mouthing anyone who uses them I don't see how I or anyone else can really believe you didn't sabotage the AN grow in some way. Either consciously or subconsciously. I know from personal experience that when it's dialed in properly it kicks ass.
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Dude, Advanced Nutes did OK. Most people would say that a pound from a 600 is kicking ass, Dynagrow just kicks more ass for less money. The comparison was way more fair than the "grow off" that advanced nutrients sponsored a few years ago. I'm sure homebrewer would agree that the mixture needed more additives to get a NPK of 1-3-2 and would perform a little better with them. I have not seen HB badmouthing users of AN, just setting the record straight that 10 different bottles of expensive crap is not really needed. Here's a link to that "unbiased" video showing how mush greater AN is than the rest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvq1RZkzw6Y
 
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burrr

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IndoorHerbs, I guess I don't need to show you the link to the video. I see you have been there, and clicked on LIKE

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homebrewer

homebrewer

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indoorherbs said:
Shocking. He found exactly what he decided ahead of time he wanted to find.

Dude, you spend so much time and effort on forums hating on Advanced Nutrients and bad-mouthing anyone who uses them I don't see how I or anyone else can really believe you didn't sabotage the AN grow in some way. Either consciously or subconsciously. I know from personal experience that when it's dialed in properly it kicks ass.
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I think if you actually read the 50 or so previous pages, you'd see that this analysis is less about the brands and more about what the brands are bringing to the table. In this case and in every case, it's about the essential minerals and the ratios that they're being supplied.

If you're capable of an intelligent debate, please point out where I failed to give Connoisseur a fair shot at yielding as well as DynaGro and we'll discuss further.


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Hey Homebrewer by chance do you use airstones or a recirculating pump in your res? I have a 40 gal res and ~250gph pump on full time mixing the water but I think it's raising my water temp too much, around 78f. With this I find I'm getting a little algae as well so I'm thowing in some h2o2 every few days and it clears it right up. Thinking I might put it on a recycle timer so it's not constantly on or throwing the airstones in might to maybe keep things mixed up without the added heat but I've heard conflicting accounts of yea v nay on airstones. Also if by using nothing do you think/see there will be any fall out. Dyna seems to mix up well with the water and I don't notice any particles floating around, like for instance with liquid karma and the such. Just wanted your 2 cents. Thanks again and keep up the good work. Be Safe!
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I've used air stones and not used them and it didn't make a difference either way. That being said, I use airstones but I do not constantly recirculate my res. I've found that products like floralicious plus almost need aerated constantly with an air stone or else they can make your res smell pretty funky, though the plants didn't seem to care one way or the other.
 
hornedfrog2000

hornedfrog2000

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I like DG because I don't have to filter through 30 different products to figure out what I actually need, and what is a waste of money.
 
shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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LOL. I just started using Floralicious Plus because I'm a huge copycat. I run airstones in my res and it still smells like a granny fart. Plants look great though.

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I've used air stones and not used them and it didn't make a difference either way. That being said, I use airstones but I do not constantly recirculate my res. I've found that products like floralicious plus almost need aerated constantly with an air stone or else they can make your res smell pretty funky, though the plants didn't seem to care one way or the other.
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Bleedmaize

Bleedmaize

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Very Cool writeup. Thanks for taking the time. Interested to hear the smoke report? Or at least your opinion.
 
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CR500ROOST

CR500ROOST

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Your stuff looks really dank.Idoorherbs is just mad becuase he spends more Money for his nutrients and gets not as good results as you.I wanna use dyna grow next time around,which bottles should I buy.I'm grow outdoor.thanks
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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CR500ROOST said:
Your stuff looks really dank.Idoorherbs is just mad becuase he spends more Money for his nutrients and gets not as good results as you.I wanna use dyna grow next time around,which bottles should I buy.I'm grow outdoor.thanks
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I'd suggest at least the grow and bloom. That being said, outdoor plants don't seem to need a whole lot to stay healthy so keep that in mind when feeding. A few mls per gallon, max.
 
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