homebrewer
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Those are perfect. Well done!Incredible Bulk left BF Lsd right same set up nutes &lights as photos above.
Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)
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homebrewer
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Black Diesel at harvest yesterday...
XxCashedxOutxX
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BeautifulBlack Diesel at harvest yesterday...
topher73
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I have used Dyna gro now 2 runs. I swear the one gallon I have of bloom is watered down mad style. I went by their feed chart, I know it is a guideline, but the 5 mills per gallon is bs if you were trying to target their chart. It is more like 15 mills a gallon and that is using protek and their calmag. I'm not dissing it their products as it is possible I got a bad gallon. As for AN. What a joke people buying 10 bottles with pretty labels super over priced. I will say GH Flora series isn't that bad for budget minded a little salty but decent.
thenotsoesoteric
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This thread and a few other @homebrewer started years ago helped point me in the right direction, lower ppms!
Regardless of the nutrient line you really don't need much nutrients at all. Cheers and nice to see you're still around HB
Regardless of the nutrient line you really don't need much nutrients at all. Cheers and nice to see you're still around HB
topher73
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Hope that my post didn't come off wrong HB was the one who turned me on to Dyna gro. You do need more ferts when your leaves yellow out from not enough nitrogen. I also run co2 so that played a factor. peace.
homebrewer
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What are you growing in? Coco, peat, hydro?
topher73
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This round I am growing in HPF with 30 percent perlite. I honestly think the seller on ebay sent me a gallon that was expired. I always store my ferts in cool dark place, but I noticed the gallon of grow separated I had to filter it and use my pestle n mortar to grind up the chunks of ferts in the bottom then add them back a bit at a time until it dissolved. I think this round I was using co2 and forgot about them needing more food so I under feed them. They look good still and only have 3 weeks left to go. I got a DWRC system I am going to run after this harvest. I am guessing the fact I haven't used co2 in years and I really don't like growing in soil except to keep mothers. I even ask the local hydro shop if he had heard of that and he said it happened to one of his customers.
homebrewer
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I'm not trying to make an example out of you but I think your comments are why there is so much confusion out there in the plant food market. So let me get this straight, you're not growing in hydro but you're using Bloom during flower? That's your first mistake. Your next mistake is thinking you need more food because of your N deficiency. Are you're not using a TDS meter? 15mls/gal of bloom is like 2.5 EC. Your original feeding levels were plenty strong and when issues popped up your instinct should have been to switch to Grow for a larger dose of N, not add more bloom. Your next mistake is that you're using calmag. DG plant foods already contain calcium and magnesium, why are you adding more?
Unless you're in true hydro, you should not be using bloom. I've said that at least 100 times. Switch to grow at their suggested maintenance rate from here on out.
That plant above was grown in peat, fed about 0.5EC, and got foliage pro from start to finish. So was the blue dream below:
Northernmich
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You have to dial it in 2 ml in veg and I use 4 mil of fp per gallon in flower the same amount of Mag Pro once a week in bloom .. my stuff is turning out perfect.
topher73
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Thank you for the advice. I guess I was way off. I did add some grow one feeding as I thought the nitrogen was too low. I have a blue labs guardian and calibrate it once every 2 weeks. I guess I was so use to using GH flora series like in the 90s in hydro and thought DG worked kinda the same way. I did use DG in coco and it came out great and used the calmag protek and bloom, but coco is basically hydro if you know what I mean. Man thanks bro. Much respect!!!I'm not trying to make an example out of you but I think your comments are why there is so much confusion out there in the plant food market. So let me get this straight, you're not growing in hydro but you're using Bloom during flower? That's your first mistake. Your next mistake is thinking you need more food because of your N deficiency. Are you're not using a TDS meter? 15mls/gal of bloom is like 2.5 EC. Your original feeding levels were plenty strong and when issues popped up your instinct should have been to switch to Grow for a larger dose of N, not add more bloom. Your next mistake is that you're using calmag. DG plant foods already contain calcium and magnesium, why are you adding more?
Unless you're in true hydro, you should not be using bloom. I've said that at least 100 times. Switch to grow at their suggested maintenance rate from here on out.
That plant above was grown in peat, fed about 0.5EC, and got foliage pro from start to finish. So was the blue dream below:
thenotsoesoteric
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Sorry, I was just randomly commenting I wasn't referring to your situation. Sorry for the confusion.
homebrewer
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Dude, I screwed up soooo many plants for a long time because I was using bloom foods in buckets. I think it's common knowledge now, maybe I'm wrong, but pretty much any company's veg formula will kill it in coco/peat/dirt from start to finish. It's stupid simple as long as it's complete. It's crazy how simple we can make it and get really nice results. Hope your plants turn around!
pinner420
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I'm running cutting edge... pretty much the same as gh.. so the extra amonical nitrogen keeps them healthier and happier for longer? Great thread by the way..
homebrewer
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I think the use of ammoniacal nitrogen is to balance the pH. Nitrate N will increase the pH over time and I believe ammoniacal lowers it?
urbanmedgrower
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why would a hydro system need a bloI'm not trying to make an example out of you but I think your comments are why there is so much confusion out there in the plant food market. So let me get this straight, you're not growing in hydro but you're using Bloom during flower? That's your first mistake. Your next mistake is thinking you need more food because of your N deficiency. Are you're not using a TDS meter? 15mls/gal of bloom is like 2.5 EC. Your original feeding levels were plenty strong and when issues popped up your instinct should have been to switch to Grow for a larger dose of N, not add more bloom. Your next mistake is that you're using calmag. DG plant foods already contain calcium and magnesium, why are you adding more?
Unless you're in true hydro, you should not be using bloom. I've said that at least 100 times. Switch to grow at their suggested maintenance rate from here on out.
That plant above was grown in peat, fed about 0.5EC, and got foliage pro from start to finish. So was the blue dream below:
om formula?
Can someone please explain to me why a hydro system would need a bloom formula...and why not in soil? thx
homebrewer
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The elemental uptake seems to be different between hydro and container gardening - meaning you can't feed your plants the same formula in both ways of growing and get the same results. Bloom works well in hydro during flowering but it will turn plants yellow if used in coco/peat/dirt. In coco/peat/dirt I'd use a veg formula from start to finish. If a veg formula is used from start to finish in hydro the resulting plants will be overly leafy and branchy with lower yields.
urbanmedgrower
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yes i understand...but why? why would hydro need a bloom and not dirt? what is the science behind it? cause you say "seems to be diff." is all this anecdotal?
pinner420
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Pg 103