Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

irishboy

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HB both buds look frosted and i would smoke either one.lol. but after looking at the pics i can see how their is more "air gaps in the AN buds. still legit smoke but not that rock hard dense buds specially for the price. but quality is still their so thats good, but i think ill still to DG for now.lol

Using both Sunshine Mix #4 and Mag-Pro @ 1.25 ML per gallon, since switching to Dyna-Gro, thanks to a conversation I had with homebrewer over a year ago.
thanks for that info, since i am using the same medium. u feed mag-pro every feeding? also how much grow or bloom u been feeding per gal in SS#4?
 

Trichy Bastard

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Thanks again for your work Homebrewer, and sharing it with us. I've recently found a little triangle button with an exclamation in it... Gonne see what it does...

Edit: Wow- apparently it's a magic eraser for negative posts- cool...
 

HighC

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Is there any reason not to lolly pop early? Do you do anything for a bud that touches the light and gets burnt? I ask you HB because I respect your opinion. I just set up three 600's with almost the same set up as you.
 
I caught this thread last night, I am very new to growing did my first outdoor last season and was relatively pleased with results. Last year for flower attempted to keep as organic as possible and did bio bloom, budswell, and sweetener. I am personal friend of dyna grow and he offered me free nutes last year but wanted to stay organic but after reading and following this I think I am going to pick up nutes from him tomorrow, can't wait to see final result. I am outdoor in smart pots with foxfarm/ocean frog/perlite and still in veg just giving tea, root strenghener, bat guano, and RO water. Upon getting DG will I need to add sweetener and I caught the flushing is not extremely necessary but will probably do at least a 5 day flush before harvest. Again I am very new and still learning and having fun but obviously want to produce the best quality I possibly can, should I dilute the DG? Forgive me for how novice I am but open to critique/suggestions, thanks for your time.
 

smokeymcpotterton

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WOW I am so glad that you made this thread HomeBrewer!

I've learned a ton!

Thanks a lot! I was having trouble on what nutrients I should 'upgrade' to now that I have a couple GH grows under my belt, I was debating between House and Garden or AN, or possibly Botanicare 100% organic, but now I think definitifely I will use Dynagrow and combine it with some Protekt, A little bit of floralicious plus/florablend (that i have still floating around from past grows) as well as supplementing w/ "The Other Tomato" 100% organic allphase.

Thanks again!
 

homebrewer

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Is there any reason not to lolly pop early? Do you do anything for a bud that touches the light and gets burnt? I ask you HB because I respect your opinion. I just set up three 600's with almost the same set up as you.
I like to trim up some of the smaller branches just to make harvest day a little easier. I wouldn't 'lolly pop' a sativa, apparently they tend to stretch even more when doing so.

I caught this thread last night, I am very new to growing did my first outdoor last season and was relatively pleased with results. Last year for flower attempted to keep as organic as possible and did bio bloom, budswell, and sweetener. I am personal friend of dyna grow and he offered me free nutes last year but wanted to stay organic but after reading and following this I think I am going to pick up nutes from him tomorrow, can't wait to see final result. I am outdoor in smart pots with foxfarm/ocean frog/perlite and still in veg just giving tea, root strenghener, bat guano, and RO water. Upon getting DG will I need to add sweetener and I caught the flushing is not extremely necessary but will probably do at least a 5 day flush before harvest. Again I am very new and still learning and having fun but obviously want to produce the best quality I possibly can, should I dilute the DG? Forgive me for how novice I am but open to critique/suggestions, thanks for your time.​
Skip the sweetner and I'm not sure what you mean about diluting DynaGro. It's in concentrated form so yes, it needs added to water (diluted) in very small amounts.
 

Trichy Bastard

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I am personal friend of dyna grow and he offered me free nutes last year
I thought Dynagrow is a company, not a person, but are you saying the owner is your personal friend? -Just curious :)
You would be really sorry if you poured that stuff in your plants without mixing it with water- lol. It only takes a teaspoon or few per gallon of water.
 
Thanks HB, I am sorry for not elaborating on the dilution. Obviously I am going to mix with the RO water just in this long thread I thought I caught giving recommended dose might be a little too much and cause burn, thank you for the sweetener advice, I am outdoor in 10 and 20 gallon smart pots and one in ground. Son of owner personal friend. HB looking forward to final results of yield/taste etc. I have friends who are dead set on organic and insist I should not do this, however you never know unless you try, perhaps I will do 1/2 and 1/2 for better comparison, just can't beat free nutes especially if they are DG and it's looking like DG is going to come out ahead on all factors. Thank you for being so thorough for such a newbie like me.
 

smokeymcpotterton

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HomeBrewer have you ever heard of or used The Other Tomato 100% Organic Allphase before?

Please let me know what you think of it and if it would be effective to combine it w/ Dynagro? It is basically an organic combination of bacterias, humic acids, and some molasses.

other tomato 012.jpgother tomato 001.jpgother tomato 007.jpgday 10 nutes 022.jpg
 

MasterS

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Personally I don't add that jazz to my hydroponic set up. When I grow cannabis I don't add it either. I do however add it to soil that I build and grow with. I compost cannabis soil into my soil building pile. The reason I don't use it for my soil grows with cannabis are because with soil building it is for long term and in a pot with a plant that grows for 3 months not much can be built, it is a process that takes time. Now the ravaged soil the cannabis leaves behind however I add to my soil pile that is full of amendments and active biological life to re-establish a symbiotic soil.
 

steeZz

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I'll be conducting a blind test with my testers to see if they can tell a difference between the two. I wont tell them anything about either nug, just that they're from different batches.

Sometimes I'll throw them a curveball and give them two nugs from the same batch just to see if they think they can tell a difference. I can't remember a time where my impression of the product differed from theirs. I'm too close to this test to give an unbiased opinion but I will be sampling both just to add another opinion.
I think I would cut out my eyes to become a full time blind tester.
 

fallinprince

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the amount of hairs on that picture is Dramatically different. Along with the lack of need to check your plants and nutrients im gonna say Dyna-gro did the best


Ps. Its official i lost my big lady due to root rot b4 she died i cut her apart into a million pieces and cloned every branch tip and any branches that had good splitting (now ive got loads of clones)

Im still having a root rot problem with my smaller blue mystic plant (that came from seed)

i got hygrozyme (to try to fix the dead matter). i also have dosed several times with 35% (food grade) hydrogen peroxide @ 1 oz per gallon (or as i understand 100ppm). Ive been reading
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/286022-killing-root-rot-4.html

They are saying that adding some Clorox bleach to the tune of 1ml per 10 gallons would provide a more effective way at killing the root rot
 

homebrewer

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Thanks HB, I am sorry for not elaborating on the dilution. Obviously I am going to mix with the RO water just in this long thread I thought I caught giving recommended dose might be a little too much and cause burn, thank you for the sweetener advice, I am outdoor in 10 and 20 gallon smart pots and one in ground. Son of owner personal friend. HB looking forward to final results of yield/taste etc. I have friends who are dead set on organic and insist I should not do this, however you never know unless you try, perhaps I will do 1/2 and 1/2 for better comparison, just can't beat free nutes especially if they are DG and it's looking like DG is going to come out ahead on all factors. Thank you for being so thorough for such a newbie like me.
I used to be an organic guy back in the day and I think the main reason was that the guys I learned from were more on the organic side. I didn't consciously make the switch to mineral-base nutes, it was just the natural progression of things as I saw improvements in the crops, harvest after harvest. I like using some organic additives in my hydro setup like florablend or floralicious plus but I have to believe that anyone who is gung-ho organic (like your friends) doesn't quite understand what plants are actually pulling up from the soil/medium. In regards to pesticides and 'organic', then I can totally understand why someone would look for OMRI labels.

HomeBrewer have you ever heard of or used The Other Tomato 100% Organic Allphase before?

Please let me know what you think of it and if it would be effective to combine it w/ Dynagro? It is basically an organic combination of bacterias, humic acids, and some molasses.
I've never heard of it and have never used it. I personally wouldn't buy it because I already own all the beneficial ingredients in that product so if it's not too expensive, give it a whirl but make sure you've set a standard for yourself in regards to strain, yield, environment, as to properly judge any possible benefits of the product.
 

homebrewer

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What stuff do you have where you say is already the things that are in it, if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks for the quick response!
Salt, molasses, liquid humus, beneficials, it's on the ingredient list. I checked out their site and that shiz is $140 for a gallon. Yikes! They're also making claims of 45-120% increase in rootmass and yield and those sorts of claims are a HUGE red flag for me. Check out Great White at a fraction of the cost.
 

fallinprince

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What stuff do you have where you say is already the things that are in it, if you don't mind me asking?
https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/361430-how-breed-your-own-beneficial-59.html

A great guide on beneficial bacteria usage. PS. great white is a good substitute for Zho, except Zho is cheaper. i realize there are alot of pages i havent finished even half of them yet.

Overall you have to make a tea (with just an airstone and some molassas or any carb product) and mass populate the microbes in a bucket then add that as a water additive
 
HBjust finished reading your grow journals great stuff, you really know your stuff. Right now im running RO Lucas Formula with 1ml/gal cal mag at 1.8EC in a DWC. Thinking about switching to Dyna per your results. Right now im run a perpetual system. Spreads out harvest, trimming and cloning.

What recipe would you recommend for a perpetual system, ie same formula from clone to harvest.
 

homebrewer

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HBjust finished reading your grow journals great stuff, you really know your stuff. Right now im running RO Lucas Formula with 1ml/gal cal mag at 1.8EC in a DWC. Thinking about switching to Dyna per your results. Right now im run a perpetual system. Spreads out harvest, trimming and cloning.

What recipe would you recommend for a perpetual system, ie same formula from clone to harvest.
1.8EC is a waste of nutes and you're hurting your yield by feeding that high. Try 1.2EC. In regards to your question, smaller plants wont feed as much as larger plants so unfortunately I don't think it's possible to feed young clones and mature flowering plants the same EC with good results. You'd either burn your clones and get a heavy harvest or you'd have vigorous, healthy clones with a light harvest. If you insist on the perpetual hydro thing, try 0.8 EC for everything. Change your res weekly and possibly top off with nutes and water every other day.
 
Thanks for the advice homebrewer. I am relatively knew to the game, have 2 cycles under my belt. I do like perpetual bc work is spread out...there is also a consitently biweekly flow, rather than a 2 month bomb. Anyways.. .Do you have a perpetual recipe, like ml's of this and that....Just EC doesn't tell me a whole lot.

I run alot of light like 50w/ft2 for 8 buckets, that may be why my plants can take higher ec's (???). I also start flowering with establish clones that are usually 12" tall. My NL can take 1.8ec lucas without much problem, a little burn here or there usually from EC spike or missed adjustment )laziness. It consistently yields 8oz per plant, with co2 about 10.5oz. My only complaint are buds could be a little more dense, larger calyxes, less leafy and little more sugary. On the other hand my new strain bubba kush looks bright green and healthy for the first 2-3 weeks....then biggest fan leaves start to burn out in the margins and eventually crumble, looks like mag def . It yeilds only like 3-4oz per plant, but the buds are much denser and very very sugary.

Like I said im pretty new, but EC 1.2 just seems too low. I think EC is totally dependent on strain, environmental conditions (ie light,co2, temp, humidity) and chem ratios.
 

homebrewer

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Like I said im pretty new, but EC 1.2 just seems too low. I think EC is totally dependent on strain, environmental conditions (ie light,co2, temp, humidity) and chem ratios.
You're right, do what works best for you as it sounds like things are going fine.
 
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