Dyna-Gro vs General Hydroponics (Dumpster Grow)

homebrewer said:

Here is an update of my AK47 being grown in promix with DG nutes (close to day 30). She's getting 3mls of food per gallon and being watered as needed (every 4 days?). She's on a mix of 1 part grow and 2 parts bloom which is roughly a 1-2-1 NPK ratio. The goal of this is not to yield big, but rather to see if DG can perform in the dirt. So far, so good.

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sup bro..ur plants are looking nice and healthy..hey ur feeding this PK plant only 3ml's total every 4days?? is that 3mls all together or 3mls each of the DG nutrients that u got??

Cali.Grown>408 said:

sup bro..ur plants are looking nice and healthy..hey ur feeding this PK plant only 3ml's total every 4days?? is that 3mls all together or 3mls each of the DG nutrients that u got??

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3mls total per gallon (1ml of grow and 2mls of bloom). This plant is basically done, I just need to take a few pics, get choppin' and post some yield numbers. Hopefully tomorrow.

nice..so did u follow the directions on the back or do ur own thing??? cant wait to see the pics..u got some nice ass looking buds brotha..thats y im asking u all these lil questions cuz i've been growing for 4years and my buds or plants PERIOD dont look like your's..mine are nice and all but yours are lovely

Cali.Grown>408 said:

nice..so did u follow the directions on the back or do ur own thing??? cant wait to see the pics..u got some nice ass looking buds brotha..thats y im asking u all these lil questions cuz i've been growing for 4years and my buds or plants PERIOD dont look like your's..mine are nice and all but yours are lovely

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Between my base water and the potency of the nutes, 3mls of food brings me to about 550ppm (442 scale). I use promix which has no food in it and generally I'll feed, feed, flush when I'm dealing with my ladies in the dirt. I'll make sure to get a picture up today.

Here is my AK47 girl grown with DG grow and bloom only. For the first 30 days, she was given 1ml of grow and 2mls of bloom per gallon and watered about every 4 days. After day 30, she got 3mls of bloom per gallon with the 2/3rds grow/bloom mix here and there when she started to lose her green color. The DG bloom formula alone doesn’t supply enough nitrogen to flowering plants but when mixed with the grow, the combination is perfect. She was one of nine plants under a 600 and my average yield is about 2 ounces from each plant. I’ll have some final numbers and a smoke report in ten days or so. I should also add that the medium was Promix which is a peat-based medium with perlite, vermiculite and no plant food. If using a soil with food in it, the nutes should be cut back until the plants have used up what is already in the soil.

Based on the results thus far, I'm very pleased with how DG performed in the dirt. This plant was mind-numbingly easy to grow and I think that was the hardest part to get around. How can this be so easy? I premixed my 2/3rds bloom/grow mix so about twice per week, I'd add my 3mls to a gallon and water with a half gallon. That's literally all I did and when calculating the amount of fertilizer that I used to grow it, this plant cost 49 cents to grow (42 mls of total fertilizer used in flower).

Smoke report and yield numbers coming soon!

Cheers.

Yes it works wonderfully in dirt as well...thank you so much HB....you are a valued pillar of our community

Beautiful plants once again there my friend

Namaste'

You should have compared DG and AN instead. I bet you a stack you would have had a better yield. Sorry. Had to put it in!

Have you experimented with AN already and that's why you don't like it? Just wondering. I'm interested in DG suddenly.

drforensicpsychologist said:

You should have compared DG and AN instead. I bet you a stack you would have had a better yield. Sorry. Had to put it in!

Have you experimented with AN already and that's why you don't like it? Just wondering. I'm interested in DG suddenly.

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Most probably because AN is overpriced garbage....

And I seriously doubt it would have increased yield....would bet money it would decrease it as DG is much HIGHER QUALITY as well elementally complimental in its sources and chemistry...Hence it is ONE bottle...not twenty....IMHHO

Namaste'

drforensicpsychologist said:

You should have compared DG and AN instead. I bet you a stack you would have had a better yield. Sorry. Had to put it in!

Have you experimented with AN already and that's why you don't like it? Just wondering. I'm interested in DG suddenly.

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There are two kinds of people who use AN; beginners and people who don't know any better. That being said, I am interested in testing conni, not because I think it will perform well, but because I want to expose AN for what they are. The problem with a test like that is that people will bitch that I'm not using all 5 additives that go along with conni. The test would be base vs. base but again, there would be no way to make everyone happy.

homebrewer said:

There are two kinds of people who use AN; beginners and people who don't know any better. That being said, I am interested in testing conni, not because I think it will perform well, but because I want to expose AN for what they are. The problem with a test like that is that people will bitch that I'm not using all 5 additives that go along with conni. The test would be base vs. base but again, there would be no way to make everyone happy.

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You know HB I believe that DG would prevail even if you used all 5 along with the conni....other than the cost it surley would hush up the vomit holes once and for all

I would even donate to the cause a few $$$

A thought

Namaste'

Dyna Grow > AN no question.

edit: oh and ak47 looks nice HB

Well my first grow is with AN and my results look better than yours. So your DG>AN argument sounds sketchy.

When I run out of AN I'll try it myself. The all-in-one bottle is one reason why I'm skeptical by the way. As a chemist I know separating chemicals has a stronger effect in general.

drforensicpsychologist said:

Well my first grow is with AN and my results look better than yours. So your DG>AN argument sounds sketchy.

When I run out of AN I'll try it myself. The all-in-one bottle is one reason why I'm skeptical by the way. As a chemist I know separating chemicals has a stronger effect in general.

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Study plant nutrition, NPK ratios, micro and macro nutrient excesses and deficiencies, along what plants actually need and use, only then will you start to be able to cut through the BS. If you've got something to prove, start a journal.

Journal? Too much time in the garden, work, and grad school to do that too!

No, really I am very new to growing so I will listen to what anybody has to say. So DG uses only what it needs to and seemingly much cheaper?

drforensicpsychologist said:

So DG uses only what it needs to and seemingly much cheaper?

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Other brands use only what they need to, DG supplies all 16 essential elements that plants need to grow and they're supplied in good quantities and ratios. They've been around for 25 years and sell their products in sizes up to 15 and 55 gallons. What does that say? It's professional grade used by commercial facilities. The formulas are pretty potent too so it doesn't take a lot of fertilizer to get to the ppm that your strain enjoys, which makes DG very affordable. Again, if you're new at this, study the things in my previous post, otherwise I'm just another person with an opinion.

drforensicpsychologist said:

Well my first grow is with AN and my results look better than yours. So your DG>AN argument sounds sketchy.

When I run out of AN I'll try it myself. The all-in-one bottle is one reason why I'm skeptical by the way. As a chemist I know separating chemicals has a stronger effect in general.

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Then as a chemist you should immediately realize that the problem there is their sources (AN) are cheap and inferior which are antogonistic to each other... the better formulated nutes (DG) are a complimentery elemental emulsion which assist each other in solution as is relative to ph for uptake as well as little residuals as they do not precipitate...this is accomplished from using quality sources...so in the school of thought of chemistry it would illustrate superior engineering to produce a product that works awesomely contained in one bottle verses seperating them into 20 bottles...AN is in the money game so shave off both ends...antagonistic elements which are very inexpensive so the need for seperation and 20 bottles...and more money...all about the money not the plants... AN puts it in twenty bottles because they have to...and they are glad they have to because they are in the money business not the plant growing business....Brilliant business and marketing skills....little to no chemistry or botany skills

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Namaste'

a whiff of troll in the air, what?

homebrewer said:

Other brands use only what they need to, DG supplies all 16 essential elements that plants need to grow and they're supplied in good quantities and ratios. They've been around for 25 years and sell their products in sizes up to 15 and 55 gallons. What does that say? It's professional grade used by commercial facilities. The formulas are pretty potent too so it doesn't take a lot of fertilizer to get to the ppm that your strain enjoys, which makes DG very affordable. Again, if you're new at this, study the things in my previous post, otherwise I'm just another person with an opinion.

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Again great job and sorry about jumping in headfirst in your thread but I couldn't help it

Namaste'

Illumination said:

Again great job and sorry about jumping in headfirst in your thread but I couldn't help it

Namaste'

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It's all relevant. If people want to learn about the stuff we were taught in Plant Bio 101, then it good to see others that know their shiz and want to educate. Unfortunately, most get their 'education' from glossy ads and websites that want to sell you something when what we should all be doing is reading text books on botany and horticulture. If cannabis growers did that, there'd be a lot of nutrient companies going out of business .

I am going to try it with one of my next plants then! Always good to have better bud and of course to save money!