Earth juice hi brix vs catalyst

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Dankmarchi

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Rasta Roy said:
No, I was using Green Wizard Nutrients back when I was messing with bottles and they just had a simple a and b nutrient for veg and flower. Now I just use lots of compost, worm castings, and neem cake. This with the occasional kelp or alfalfa tea gives me all the vitamins, growth hormones, Humates, trace minerals, etc that some people would purchase bottle additives for. I use fish fertilizer if I see my plants hurting for nitrogen, and guano teas if they need a phosphorus boost. I try not to push too hard with fertilization though, my plants tend to taste better when I don't overdo it.

I would skip the oil production one...is the soybean meal, Soybean Meal or something bottled? Lol.

And humic acid is good to use if your medium is just soiless (coco or promix), but if you got a good compost or worm castings in your soil I wouldn't bother.
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Yeah their soybean meal is bottled and i believe it was for fulvic acid or maybe it was the other way around soy bean for humic and a another bottled called fulvic but i think i had it right the first time. Ive been cutting back on the dosage ive been giving my plants and i think theyre looking a lot better ive been trying a lot of soils i think my favorite so far is the doctor earth brand for veg i was most likely gunna try the fossilized seabird guano from earth juice in a tea with some source of molasses like catalyst and the home made version
 
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I also started using ro instead of tap that sat out overnight. I was just using water straight from the tap with out letting it sit out and started getting my ph all messed up and lockouts i just got them back on track by flushing with ro and now i try to use only teas and soil amenders
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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Dankmarchi said:
Yeah their soybean meal is bottled and i believe it was for fulvic acid or maybe it was the other way around soy bean for humic and a another bottled called fulvic but i think i had it right the first time. Ive been cutting back on the dosage ive been giving my plants and i think theyre looking a lot better ive been trying a lot of soils i think my favorite so far is the doctor earth brand for veg i was most likely gunna try the fossilized seabird guano from earth juice in a tea with some source of molasses like catalyst and the home made version
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If you're ordering offline, and want to buy an affordable high quality fulvic acid I would highly recommend checking out Organicallydone.com I'm not one to endorse bottled nutes that often but their amber fulvic is something I consider mandatory in my personal garden. I foliar feed with it once every week while in veg. I've liked their humic acid too but bio-ag takes the cake on the better quality humic product...though more expensive.
 
backtracker

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Rasta Roy said:
You can make lacto bactillius with a mason jar, a bag of kelp meal takes up as much space as a cereal box, and a gallon jug of Molasses takes up as much space as a gallon of milk. How is that too much to handle indoors or in a cramped area?

That aside...earth juice is a good company, I use their molasses. But I don't work for them, and I don't get attached to products so I can speak honestly. No bottled product will do for you what a fresh one will, and the fresh one will stretch your dollar further. And the fresh ones require no science, it's as easy as a fresh top dressing every few weeks or throwing a 1/2 cup in a five gallon bucket of water and letting it sit a day before you use it.
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some people don't have the confidence to do anything but use something out of a bottle then some manage to screw it up any way. Their dry mixes are easy and great for gorilla growing just top dress in water and split.
 
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Dankmarchi

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Rasta Roy said:
If you're ordering offline, and want to buy an affordable high quality fulvic acid I would highly recommend checking out Organicallydone.com I'm not one to endorse bottled nutes that often but their amber fulvic is something I consider mandatory in my personal garden. I foliar feed with it once every week while in veg. I've liked their humic acid too but bio-ag takes the cake on the better quality humic product...though more expensive.
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Im a little fuzzy on what fulvic acid does its been a while since i read up on it what are the benefits again? I really like the benefits of foliar spray tho And ive been starting a regimine where i foliar feed once a day in the morning i spray seaweed thats from dr earth that has humic acid, then i do fish nutes, then essential grow, then general organics cal/mag, then silica and then on the final day xtreme gardenings cal carb which i let sit on the leaves for 2 or 3 days
 
Rasta Roy

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Dankmarchi said:
Im a little fuzzy on what fulvic acid does its been a while since i read up on it what are the benefits again? I really like the benefits of foliar spray tho And ive been starting a regimine where i foliar feed once a day in the morning i spray seaweed thats from dr earth that has humic acid, then i do fish nutes, then essential grow, then general organics cal/mag, then silica and then on the final day xtreme gardenings cal carb which i let sit on the leaves for 2 or 3 days
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http://www.cannabis.info/us/abc/30006026-humic-and-fulvic-acid-in-cannabis-gardening
 
Mr. Krinkle

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in veg: Rootamentary from Beneficial Biologics and F.P.F. Plant Fulvic from Organics Alive - both at 1ml/gal

and if you like to foliar, use Vital Fish Powder from Vital Garden Supply at 1 tsp per quart - it also has BT in it and it'll help with fungus gnats and thrips (they like to hang around in organics)

just do that and your plants will love ya like jesus

praise the lord
 
MistaRasta

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Dankmarchi said:
Im a little fuzzy on what fulvic acid does its been a while since i read up on it what are the benefits again?
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Fulvic Acid is an extremely potent and high-energy substance that stimulates plant metabolism, increases stress tolerance and acts as a natural detoxifier.

..Fulvic acid is one of my favorites. I use it in my veg and flower weekly, I also use it when I take clones and when i make soil. Ive noticed a huge difference upon bringing it into my program, Worth every penny.
 
MistaRasta

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Rasta Roy said:
bio-ag takes the cake on the better quality humic product...though more expensive.
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Bio-ag most definitely takes the cake on best humic/fulvic product, Nothing else compares. They sell human grade fulvic acid as well. Called 'Wu Jin San.' Its around 100$ a gallon but thats to be expected when youre buying a product sequestered from ancient carbon out of raindrops off the coast of Oregon.
 
Rasta Roy

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MistaRasta said:
Fulvic Acid is an extremely potent and high-energy substance that stimulates plant metabolism, increases stress tolerance and acts as a natural detoxifier.

..Fulvic acid is one of my favorites. I use it in my veg and flower weekly, I also use it when I take clones and when i make soil. Ive noticed a huge difference upon bringing it into my program, Worth every penny.
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Do you use it as a foliar feed in flower? Or give it to the roots? I use as a foliar in veg and the first two weeks of flower but I stop foliar feeds by then usually.
 
MistaRasta

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Rasta Roy said:
Do you use it as a foliar feed in flower? Or give it to the roots? I use as a foliar in veg and the first two weeks of flower but I stop foliar feeds by then usually.
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Strictly roots in flower. So long as i keep up with my ipm program through veg, my flower room doesnt get sprayed. Other than clones i dont reallly foliar other than my ipm which consists of karanja oil, aloe, fulvic acid, silica, and an essential oil blend from bas. This is once a week and twice in the rainy season as im in a basement in a valley right down on ocean level. Which means lots of gnats.

Obvioiusly fulvic does a great job on breaking down and regulating whats in the aloe and silica and if you spray with kelp, it chelates its compounds as well. Definitely helps with assimilation.

The magic really comes from putting it in the soil. I like that pure fulvic is literally amber/gold. It fits very properly.
 
Rasta Roy

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MistaRasta said:
Strictly roots in flower. So long as i keep up with my ipm program through veg, my flower room doesnt get sprayed. Other than clones i dont reallly foliar other than my ipm which consists of karanja oil, aloe, fulvic acid, silica, and an essential oil blend from bas. This is once a week and twice in the rainy season as im in a basement in a valley right down on ocean level. Which means lots of gnats.

Obvioiusly fulvic does a great job on breaking down and regulating whats in the aloe and silica and if you spray with kelp, it chelates its compounds as well. Definitely helps with assimilation.

The magic really comes from putting it in the soil. I like that pure fulvic is literally amber/gold. It fits very properly.
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This is the fulvic acid I use.

http://www.organicallydone.com/content/amber-fulvic-liquid

It is much cheaper than $100...which makes me wonder about the quality... But the color is right...and it seems to do its job.
 
MistaRasta

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Rasta Roy said:
This is the fulvic acid I use.

http://www.organicallydone.com/content/amber-fulvic-liquid

It is much cheaper than $100...which makes me wonder about the quality... But the color is right...and it seems to do its job.
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The 100$ a gallon is human grade, specifically meant for human application. Their plant/feed grade fulvics are 40$ a gallon in the midwest. Which breaks down to 10$ a quart. If youre in a legal state you can easily find it for 30$ a gallon making it 7.50$ a quart. Thats cheap cheap.

I use Bio ag because of their owner/lead biologist Robert Faust. He has spent the majority of his career studying humic and fulvic acids and is the most acredited scientist in his field. His company speaks for himself as no other scientist/bioligist has put in the 40+ years studying these compounds (fulvics) and figuring out how to make them available in their most pure form as he has. His product is a must have in my garden and i will buy bio-ag's product as long as they sell it.

The company 'Nectar for the Gods' uses Bio-ag fulvic acid to chelate their entire nute line. They have around 14 bottles.. Its THAT good.
 
Rasta Roy

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MistaRasta said:
The 100$ a gallon is human grade, specifically meant for human application. Their plant/feed grade fulvics are 40$ a gallon in the midwest. Which breaks down to 10$ a quart. If youre in a legal state you can easily find it for 30$ a gallon making it 7.50$ a quart. Thats cheap cheap.

I use Bio ag because of their owner/lead biologist Robert Faust. He has spent the majority of his career studying humic and fulvic acids and is the most acredited scientist in his field. His company speaks for himself as no other scientist/bioligist has put in the 40+ years studying these compounds (fulvics) and figuring out how to make them available in their most pure form as he has. His product is a must have in my garden and i will buy bio-ag's product as long as they sell it.

The company 'Nectar for the Gods' uses Bio-ag fulvic acid to chelate their entire nute line. They have around 14 bottles.. Its THAT good.
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Yea the reputation speaks for itself. Organically Done uses their fulvic acid in their fish hydrolysate.
 
MistaRasta

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Rasta Roy said:
Yea the reputation speaks for itself. Organically Done uses their fulvic acid in their fish hydrolysate.
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How much does organicallydone charge for a gallon of their fulvic?

It honestly might just be bio-ag fulvic rebottled and sold. The only reason it makes me wonder is why they dont just use their in house fulvic acid to chelate a fish hydrolosate?
 
Rasta Roy

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MistaRasta said:
How much does organicallydone charge for a gallon of their fulvic?

It honestly might just be bio-ag fulvic rebottled and sold. The only reason it makes me wonder is why they dont just use their in house fulvic acid to chelate a fish hydrolosate?
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I meant their own in house fulvic acid not bio ags lol. It's 19.99 for a quart.
 
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MistaRasta

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Rasta Roy said:
I meant their own in house fulvic acid not bio ags lol. It's 19.99 for a quart.
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Same price as bio ag. Can you buy it in gallon incriments? I save a lot of money buying a gallon of fulvic acid for 40$ vs buying a quart for 20$.

That one gallon makes 4 quarts, each quart being 10$, Saving me half the money. Thats just me though, i started buying everything in bulk as i have a pretty dedicated program. Saves me lots of $$$
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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MistaRasta said:
Same price as bio ag. Can you buy it in gallon incriments? I save a lot of money buying a gallon of fulvic acid for 40$ vs buying a quart for 20$.

That one gallon makes 4 quarts, each quart being 10$, Saving me half the money. Thats just me though, i started buying everything in bulk as i have a pretty dedicated program. Saves me lots of $$$
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I hear ya! I order pallets of perlite for 12.99 per 4 Cuft bag instead of having to pay 30-40 at the growstore. Same thing with my peat moss and my compost until I pivoted into making my own.

I'm sure they do have a gallon bottle I should look into. They just carry this brand at the shop where I fill my Co2 tanks up and capitalism and things on shelves encouraged me to purchase initially lol. They just did a month long 30% off Sale on all their products last month though that was killer. I stocked up on bags and bags of Alfalfa Meal and kelp meal (my local feedstore has terrible options) and crab shell meal.
 
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