Ebb n grow watering times? How many?

justsmoking

justsmoking

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I have the ebb n grow from C.A.P. And am using 12 pots full of hydroton and have been flooding and draining twice a day 12am and 12pm. Now that's been for two weeks. The roots are now showing through the bottom of the inside pot full of hydroton . Now there's always water siting in the bottom of all the buckets. So I lifted them 1.5in higher than the control bucket to drain better. I also hear to swich up to flooding the pots 3 times a day as soon as I see roots come out the bottom? Then 4 times a day during the final month? Damn thing didn't come with directions so I need help.
 
GreenThumbSucker

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justsmoking said:
I have the ebb n grow from C.A.P. And am using 12 pots full of hydroton and have been flooding and draining twice a day 12am and 12pm. Now that's been for two weeks. The roots are now showing through the bottom of the inside pot full of hydroton . Now there's always water siting in the bottom of all the buckets. So I lifted them 1.5in higher than the control bucket to drain better. I also hear to swich up to flooding the pots 3 times a day as soon as I see roots come out the bottom? Then 4 times a day during the final month? Damn thing didn't come with directions so I need help.
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Once you see roots out of the bottom you can turn the nutes up to 500 - 600 ppm.

If you see roots I would start flooding three times per day. Once when the light comes on and once six and 12 hours later.

There is no need to lift the pots up to drain them. The inch of water in the bottom is used by the plant between floods.
 
StreetRider

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I know there will be people who disagree, but you can flood and drain non-stop.

As soon as you flood, drain, repeat. As long as you drain down fully each time the roots get a fresh breath of air between each feeding. If your air is dry you should have zero problems.

Just don't feed at night.

And allow drying time if you use rockwool.

Best of luck.
 
GreenThumbSucker

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I got almost 2 lbs per lamp last grow feeding 3 times, then 4 times per day. Not sure why someone would flood continually but I agree, it should work.
 
StreetRider

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How it was explained to me was that it helped bring E&F and DWC closer together.

As he stated... "It's what the 'kids' up north are doing.."

I switched to it, and so far so good. No sign of it hurting. No stunting. I am always changing little things, so I would not say I can swear to it... But, it does seem to work well for me.
In rockwool you would probibly drown your roots, but in Hydrton it should be more than fine.
 
justsmoking

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Sweet I'm switching tonight to three times a day that's instead of 12am 12pm it will be every 8 hours 12am 8am 4pm then back to 12am. I hope this is right
 
GrowingfortheGold

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StreetRider said:
I know there will be people who disagree, but you can flood and drain non-stop.

As soon as you flood, drain, repeat. As long as you drain down fully each time the roots get a fresh breath of air between each feeding. If your air is dry you should have zero problems.

Just don't feed at night.

And allow drying time if you use rockwool.

Best of luck.
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I disagree by experience. I grow in coco. Was flooding 4 times a day 5 gal buckets. It took about 2 weeks and then My plants exhibited signs of overwatering, yellowing do to roots not being able to take in nutrients, and very slow growth. I cut back to 1 time a day and after the first month of veg I switched to 2 times a day...and yes I aerate my reservoir. The roots need more air than you think.

As for flooding times of hydroton - cannot say have never grown in hydroton.
 
justsmoking

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See your way of thinking is mine. I think keying them dry makes them grow slowing the roots to strech out looking for food? But I've been watering two times every day and there three times bigger than ever with soil. I'm loving how every day there bigger and fuller i don't want that to stop because I over watered. Though I thought once a day was to much and I've never seen growth this fast in veg with Jack Herer of all strains. Jack loves to grow in flower. So this is new. I'm going to give them three floods a day and will see mabey they'll grow even faster?
 
GrowingfortheGold

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Keeping the medium more dry than wet makes the plant search for more water. Speeding up the growth of the rootzone which directly relate to yield.

Check out my grow in my sig I think you can relate!
 
justsmoking

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The change to three times a day is working great!!! Lots of growth and there real nice coloring. All my soil grows were real good but I was never able to get this much nitrogen in the leaf !!! I love hydro ebb n grow is the only way
 
RyanTheRhino

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justsmoking said:
The change to three times a day is working great!!! Lots of growth and there real nice coloring. All my soil grows were real good but I was never able to get this much nitrogen in the leaf !!! I love hydro ebb n grow is the only way
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i know right:hump:... im a noob to hydro this is my first time using it ,but i can tell the plant is growing 3x or at least 2x as fast compared to soil.

i have suspended net pots filled with hydroton over my flood trey.
++++++++++4 min floods+++++
flood cycle = lights on, every 4 hours, right before lights off
1st.... 6am lights on
2nd... 10am
3rd... 2pm
4th... 6pm
5th... 10pm
6th... 12am
 
royboy12

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ive got an e and f...with net pots and my clones were obviously started in rockwool but i keep them in hydroton..ive recently started to flood every 3 hours cause my plants were showing signs of underwatering so far its lookin good..and from what ive gathered you gotta play it by ear and just see how ur plant respnds to the nutes and watering...good luck
 
johndoecangrow

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DSC00092.jpgI feed more in veg to get the roots going I start out feeding every 2 hours then back it down to 3 feedings a day by the start of bloom and keep it at 3 feedings a day threw bloom. and believe it or not the drink more nutrient when you feed them less you always feed them less in bloom than in veg.
 
patlpp

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GrowingfortheGold said:
I disagree by experience. I grow in coco. Was flooding 4 times a day 5 gal buckets. It took about 2 weeks and then My plants exhibited signs of overwatering, yellowing do to roots not being able to take in nutrients, and very slow growth. I cut back to 1 time a day and after the first month of veg I switched to 2 times a day...and yes I aerate my reservoir. The roots need more air than you think.

As for flooding times of hydroton - cannot say have never grown in hydroton.
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Well of course you overwatered. Coco retains water whereas hydroton does not. Apples and oranges.
 
patlpp

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johndoecangrow said:
View attachment 1355378I feed more in veg to get the roots going I start out feeding every 2 hours then back it down to 3 feedings a day by the start of bloom and keep it at 3 feedings a day threw bloom. and believe it or not the drink more nutrient when you feed them less you always feed them less in bloom than in veg.
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That looks like some amateur setup you have there. /Inet sarcasm . Great looking plants!!
 
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