Elons Little Plan
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DIY-HP-LED
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Jared was involved in middle east investing and got a 2 billion deal, so maybe he talked them into splashing a bit of cash for influence in American politics. Now that Trump is gone they need a way into American politics and Elon will use their money while Jared talks them into it. They bought FIFA, why not Twitter and get to shape American public opinion. Ironically they are getting into bed with someone who will end up killing them by helping to convert cars to EVs, and he is now far from alone as all automakers begin converting.
xtsho
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musk is a lying grifter. He's been lying for years. In 2017 he claimed the Tesla Semi would be rolling out of production in 2 years. Here we are 5 years later and that crappy Semi is still sitting on a stage waiting for the next media event to try and pump up the stock price. Cybertruck with the bulletproof glass that broke during a live demo? Where's that stupid piece of garbage? musks problem now is that the people with the money no longer believe much of what he says and that's reflected in the stock price. Also look at the P/E ratio. It's still way overvalued.
I saw an interview with Warren Buffet back when Tesla stock was at insane levels. Buffet was asked if he would invest in Tesla. His answer was no and he gave a lengthy reason why which was solid advice. Now a few years later it's apparent that he was correct. Ironically, musk has stated that he never cared for Buffet. Probably because he was one of the few people that actually saw through the smoke and mirrors.
I saw an interview with Warren Buffet back when Tesla stock was at insane levels. Buffet was asked if he would invest in Tesla. His answer was no and he gave a lengthy reason why which was solid advice. Now a few years later it's apparent that he was correct. Ironically, musk has stated that he never cared for Buffet. Probably because he was one of the few people that actually saw through the smoke and mirrors.
DIY-HP-LED
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Every car maker on the planet are introducing EVs or will be by next year, many with better technology and batteries. Mostly wealthy liberally inclined educated people bought a Tesla and Elon's recent Twitter antics have pissed them off and ruined his image. The harm he did on Twitter has spread to his other businesses and is affecting their stock prices as more of Elon is revealed to the public. It looks like he wants out of the ego trap and money pit, so he made a poll, his bankers knew they were gonna get screwed and threatened to sue if he drove it into the ground himself, he will need someone else to do that!
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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News Flash!: Elon Musk was beheaded today after visiting Saudi Arabia to explain Twitter's bankrupcey, costing MBS billions. The Biden administration had no comment... 
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Follow-on: Musk did not notice, and his advisors decided not to tell him.News Flash!: Elon Musk was beheaded today after visiting Saudi Arabia to explain Twitter's bankrupcey, costing MBS billions. The Biden administration had no comment...
xtsho
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It's no coincidence. The worst people on the planet sharing time together is perfectly normal. They're all the same when it comes to money. Jared is Jewish yet here he is in close business arrangements with the Saudi's. Money trumps ideology.
But musk sure had the wool pulled over the Democrats eyes. They were stumbling over each other to give him praise. He said Green! He's going to save the planet! Now that the curtain has been pulled back and people stop and actually take a moment to think, the truth of who he is becomes apparent to all. But they're still going to buy his cars just like they still buy Iphones despite them being manufactured in sweatshops using exploited workers.
Hypocrites. This side, that side. It doesn't matter.
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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That's the thing about democrats and liberals in general, they are so fickle and don't tolerate moral failings, look what happened to Al Franken. Republicans however are loyal and stick to shit like Trump, even storming the capitol for him and covering for treason and the aftermath of the shitstorm, they have much of their own blame to cover for.
It is a healthy thing to be able to respond to new evidence and change accordingly, nobody cared enough about Elon to have a close look at him, now they do.
xtsho
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Well they sure tolerated the Clintons who are still grifting themselves.
hanimmal
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lmao love how this turned to the inevitable 'but Democrats'.
Not everyone was fooled by this douche.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a37244461/elon-musk-says-tesla-not-invited-to-white-house-ev-event/
The White House hosted an EV-themed event on Thursday of this week to announce the administration's executive action on green vehicles, aimed at raising the share of battery-electric, plug-in hybrid, and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles to 50% of sales by 2030. Representatives from General Motors, Ford, and Stellantis were in attendance during the event that announced the wide-ranging (but non-binding) executive action, with President Joe Biden even driving a PHEV Jeep Wrangler on the White House grounds.
- Tesla was not a part of an EV-themed White House event attended by executives from GM, Ford, and Stellantis.
- President Biden signed an executive order aimed at bringing the sales share of new battery-electric, plug-in hybrid, and hydrogen fuel cell cars to 50% by 2030.
- The White House press secretary hinted at Tesla's relationship with the UAW when asked about Tesla's absence at the event.
But one prominent electric automaker was notably absent from the event and from the statements issued by the administration.
On the one hand, Tesla was an EV-only automaker from the start, so including it in the administration's event and announcement was perhaps redundant—it's all the other automakers that have their work cut out for them to increase their EV offerings in the coming years. So Tesla doesn't have anything new to commit to per se.
On the other hand, Tesla CEO Elon Musk indicated on Wednesday night that the automaker's absence from the administration's announcement was unexpected.
Other EV makers and start-ups such as Rivian, Fisker, Faraday, Bollinger, Arrival, Lucid, and Lordstown were also not mentioned by name in the administration's statements.
White House press secretary Jen Psaki responded a question during the day about Tesla's absence from the event, and strongly hinted that the lack of UAW representation at Tesla plants may have been part of the reason.
"Well, we, of course, welcome the efforts of all automakers who recognize the potential of an electric vehicle future and support efforts that will help reach the president's goal," Psaki said in response to a question about Tesla's absence. "And certainly, Tesla is one of those companies. Today, it's the three largest employers of the United Auto Workers, and the UAW president who will stand with President Biden as he announces his ambitious new target, but I would not expect this is the last time we talk about clean cars, the move toward electric vehicles, and we look forward to having a range of partners in that effort."
"Well, these are the three largest employers of the United Auto Workers, so I'll let you draw your own conclusions," Psaki added when asked about Tesla's absence.
The UAW was a prominent part of the administration's announcement of 2030 ZEV targets, and released its own statement on the executive order.
"We are at a critical time for the auto industry as countries compete to build the vehicles of the future," UAW President Ray Curry said in part. "We are falling behind China and Europe as manufacturers pour billions into growing their markets and expanding their manufacturing. We need to make investments here in the United States. Fortunately, President Biden recognizes the importance of this moment, and his Build Back Better Plan makes the bold investments in manufacturing, consumer incentives, and infrastructure needed to ensure vehicles of the future are made in our country. Investments alone are not enough. Today’s announcement on emissions standards brings more certainty and better planning for the auto industry and UAW member future jobs."
The UAW has had a contentious relationship with Tesla in the past, having attempted to organize the Fremont plant without success, and initiated a suit on behalf of an employee who was allegedly fired for union organizing activities at the plant. The incident prompted the National Labor Relations Board to order Tesla to offer to reinstate the worker. The UAW had also made note of the automaker's stance on unions, which at one point prompted the NLRB to order the CEO to remove a tweet discouraging unionization efforts at the plant.
"Nothing stopping Tesla team at our car plant from voting union. Could do so tmrw if they wanted. But why pay union dues & give up stock options for nothing?" Musk wrote in 2018 in a tweet that was later criticized by the NLRB.
Overall, this week's instance of Tesla's exclusion from the event is unlikely to have an effect on consumer perception of the automaker—the focus late this week was squarely on the big three automakers and their EV plans, as they're the ones that have to make an effort to expand their zero-emission offerings in the coming years.
"While the UAW notes that the companies have made voluntary commitments on Electric Vehicles, the UAW focus is not on hard deadlines or percentages, but on preserving the wages and benefits that have been the heart and soul of the American middle class," Curry added in a statement on the administration's executive action.
This old trope. Wake me up when they get shut down for fraud, or actually shown outside of some right wing rag or conspiracy video that they actually did something actually wrong.
DIY-HP-LED
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Back in the day Bill was a corporate democrat and later Hilary was more about social policy. Since Obama the parties are polarized and his administration was as clean as a cat's asshole, Joe selected the people and staffed it out. They are no comparisons to Trump and the republicans, since Obama became president the republicans drove out all the good people and attracted white trash. They became the party of character flawed assholes and traitors we have all come to know only too well. Trump distilled them into their final form and poisoned them from within. There are no illusions any more it's straight up good versus evil, truth versus lies, in the struggle for the soul of America. Trump's presidency began with the Obama birther lie and ended with the big steal lie, all amplified and supported by republicans, the party of treason.
xtsho
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I didn't turn it into anything. You did because that's how you wanted to interpret my post and portray me. It's the same old story same old song and dance, my friend. Boring...
It's always about this side or that side with some of you. You need to move beyond that simplistic view of things.
As for my Clinton reference regarding morality.
xtsho
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I'll post this tweet and wait to see how long someone calls me a musk supporter despite the fact that all of my previous posts about musk have been negative.
hanimmal
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Im not sure how else to interpret this:
All those resources spent in investigating Clinton and the best they got was a blowjob. The work they do being called a 'grift' is just lazy.
And you are right about Musk buddying up with the Democrats, and being rich as shit would for sure get him a lot of one on one time, so I am sure you can find him in a lot of pictures with famous Democrats. And there is no question he benefitted greatly by the push to stop our mass polluting that the Democrats have been championing.
You really are touchy man, you have been exceptionally negative towards Musk. I just pointed out the opportunity you took to 'own the libs' is all.
xtsho
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Interpret it anyway you want. I made a statement. Do you disagree that musk had the wool pulled over Democrats eyes? If it's something that's accurate why does it have to be political? Can't a person make an observation without being labeled?
hanimmal
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That is the thing, I am not sure if he did pull the wool over the Democrats eyes or not. I really always thought Musk was a moron, at least once I started hearing about him when he bought Tesla and started his long term troll on us around 2008. But I can't say I know of any examples of Democrats heaping praise on him, I am guessing it is out there, but I have no clue.
It might feel true, but that is not saying much. I think Musk was better at spamming how much Democrats loved him more so than any actual truth one way or the other to it.
hanimmal
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Side 3
Spoiled rich kid to a evil villain, to wealthy right wing troll who catfishes as a former climate hero, to mega rich evil villain.