enjoying your three day weekend?
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ChesusRice
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Ive earned tens of dollars titling porn for Amazons mechanical Turk
deprave
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lol well I don't get to sit and watch it Im working on the backend developing the servers, such high bandwidth the popular sites takes 100's of servers and its all a delicate balance.
Mr Neutron
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If you were in a union, you know how unions can influence favor. Stewards and business agents will stand up for their buddies and let the others to fend for themselves. Employers can be held hostage by stubborn good ole boys.
Were you in a local or national union? I can see where a small, local union may work for the betterment of both the employee and the employer. Just like government, the smaller and more local, the better. My only experience is with some of the biggest national unions.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Here there are many '80s cars and almost none from the '60s or earlier. The '60s cars that remain are almost entirely muscle cars and Beetles. But there are many many '80s cars, notably Toyotas and Hondas. But counting domestics only ... lots of GMs and Mopars and the odd large Ford. cn
bedspirit
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The vast majority of my experience was with the Teamsters, but it was a local chapter. I've got some experience with specialized unions as well. None of them prevented termination and some of those specialized unions didn't even protect seniority.
I've seen stewards not stand up for employees in trouble before, but in the cases I saw, those situations did not favor the employee. I can understand why the union didn't want to spend the time and resource to help a guy who might have deserved what he got.
I've never seen an employer held hostage by a union. I'm sure it can happen, but financially, strikes are not good for employees. Whatever raise they're striking for almost never makes up for the loss of wage absorbed during the strike.
You may be on to something about those larger unions. I haven't experienced a union big enough to intimidate an employer to a degree that would harm the business.
ChesusRice
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Unions are good
Union jobs suck
You get paid a good wage
and management makes sure you earn it.
You can be fired for poor performance. Very Very easily.
Union jobs suck
You get paid a good wage
and management makes sure you earn it.
You can be fired for poor performance. Very Very easily.
Grandpapy
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UncleBuck
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says the guy who has to pay for sex.
Mr Neutron
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Aren't they all local chapters? All under the national umbrella?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Lol, K-cars, Citations and Chevettes were the bottom of the barrel. Haven't seen a Chevy Monza in years either. I did see my high-school ride the other day though ... 1967 Ford Fairlane wagon, in stock and creditable condition. Memories ... cn
Mr Neutron
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Immeasurably!
You believe what you want, I believed you when you said your house looks like shit because you're too lazy to paint it! LOL
bedspirit
Active Member
I believe that. I think employees will always resist change that will make them work harder. Doesn't matter if they're union or not. My company had gone through something similar. Profit margins aren't what they used to be for a lot of industries. The existence of lazy guys on the job is not a valid criticism of a union.
A real indictment of a union would be if they could successfully force a company to tolerate such laziness. I know our Union would never vote to go on strike to protect the right of our foreman to take naps. I can't even imagine how a union could argue for that right. I can understand a union arguing for lower quotas. Sometimes they might be right. That's why I would always prefer negotiation rather than just doing whatever management demands. I've noticed that in a lot of companies, management doesn't really understand what goes on and what's feasible at the production level.
That's the point bedspirit, many unions do negotiate contracts that promote less production (laziness) why would our BA tell us to take it easy because we were making the the older guys look bad?
Do you think piece work is fair?
bedspirit
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I don't know. Does it vary for each industry they represent? For example, the police were teamsters too, so it would make sense for them to be a little broader. It doesn't matter, my experience was with a smaller localized union.
bedspirit
Active Member
I don't know about piece work, I don't have much experience with that kind of production.
Just as your Union was trying to slow production in order to get a better deal on their end, I'm sure the company engaged in their own tricks to get an advantage at the table as well. Our contracts only lasted 3 years so I've seen it play out time and time again.
When an agreement is finally reached, I think both sides should stand behind it. If it turned out to be too generous to the employees, I don't think the union should be vilified for it. Sometimes it goes the other way and the employer wins.
Just looked up the demographics of Oregon.
Only 3.8% of the population is black!
No wonder you don't have a clue, been doing some internet research on how to be a good little whiteboy?
Tell us all your experiences in the hood B-Dawg! LOL
UncleBuck
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the angry white racist who claims to be some type of growing guru doesn't understand why people would make bubble hash
let's see some more pictures of your awesome grows featuring neon yellow twigs!