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forgetiwashere

forgetiwashere

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hey tcd. did u just tie that top plant once. thats pretty cool. i like that low maintenance method. i actually have never seen that before believe it or not.

"i thought the idea of a scrog is to train as many bud sites as posible in a sense the screen only holds the bud in place and then prevent,s them taking over with the streach, it,s a control tool in a sense"

this is exactly how i think of the screen. as a control tool. i completely understand that the traditional way of scrogging is to fill the screen to the max and to utilize the grow space as efficiently as possible and that is great. but i actually dont do it that way. i view it exactly how you worded it as a control tool. once my plant shows maturity i drop a screen on its head and flip it. i then train my plant out along the screen through stretch. this simply prevents it getting too high and it has the added bonus of opening up a lot more bud sites. its kind of like lst to me except i find it easier to pull a few branches under a screen each day than tying down branches each day and having a spider web of strings to deal with.

i guess it comes down to your end goals. if your growing commercially or massive yields are your thing then spend the extra time in veg and fill your screen. i am lazy and want to grow a single plant out with minimum veg and still get a decent yield. also i dont sell my weed or anything its all just for me so a plant like the one i have showed here before will more than cover my smoko needs till the next harvest.

good post tcd. its good to see some open discussion on scrog. thats what this thread should be about not just posting pics
 
trichomedome

trichomedome

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Your 100% right forgetiwashere it,s each to his own, but by nature i,m always going try and maximise, i,m actualy i,m a lazy grower aswell. The scrog is fine but it is labour intensive whereas with tying it is productive and suits the less intensive growers. I,ll have to see the end product before i commit to my next method.

wat i do is tie them over to 45 deg as they,re going into 12/12 That seems to stem any crazy growth for long enogh to get over the streach, and creates a nice flat cannopy.

"good post tcd. its good to see some open discussion on scrog" thanks forgetiwashere taken in context ;) TCD
 
forgetiwashere

forgetiwashere

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here is an example of how my stretch has been controlled

this is my plant the day i flipped to 12/12. she is 4 weeks from seed and stands 12 inches high and has been topped once.



now here is my screen at 1 week 12/12. the screen is nearly full. now obviously there is plenty of gaps.but she has stretched right out to the edges of the screen, that screen is 1m x 1m so its not small



and here she is now at 3 weeks 12/12



now this is a sativa dom plant so the stretch was through the roof but u see how my method works it may not be the hugest yielding method but its simple and easy.
could u imagine how big she would have been if i didnt train her under the screen?

another bud shot just for fun lol

 
The Dawg

The Dawg

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forgetiwashere said:
here is an example of how my stretch has been controlled

this is my plant the day i flipped to 12/12. she is 4 weeks from seed and stands 12 inches high and has been topped once.



now here is my screen at 1 week 12/12. the screen is nearly full. now obviously there is plenty of gaps.but she has stretched right out to the edges of the screen, that screen is 1m x 1m so its not small



and here she is now at 3 weeks 12/12



now this is a sativa dom plant so the stretch was through the roof but u see how my method works it may not be the hugest yielding method but its simple and easy.
could u imagine how big she would have been if i didnt train her under the screen?

another bud shot just for fun lol

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Looking Super Nice Scrogg Forgetiwashere.You Have A Grow Journal?Peace And Pussytail Grease :weed:
 
trichomedome

trichomedome

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forgetiwashere said:
here is an example of how my stretch has been controlled

this is my plant the day i flipped to 12/12. she is 4 weeks from seed and stands 12 inches high and has been topped once.



now here is my screen at 1 week 12/12. the screen is nearly full. now obviously there is plenty of gaps.but she has stretched right out to the edges of the screen, that screen is 1m x 1m so its not small



and here she is now at 3 weeks 12/12



now this is a sativa dom plant so the stretch was through the roof but u see how my method works it may not be the hugest yielding method but its simple and easy.
could u imagine how big she would have been if i didnt train her under the screen?

another bud shot just for fun lol

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I read this reply this morning but needed time to think about it. 1st i,ve wrongly asumed that everyone would want to maximise there crop, i,ve tried and i thought great..... but now i,m thinking that light is the main factor. So i may have a full screen but i thought the other day that i needed to add another 600w light, Which to me is the screen being acomadated instead of it acomodating me i,ve only ever used 1 600w. Like yourself i wont sell it either, i,m still smoking a crop from jan so there is absolutely no point in me putting another 600w in i don,t have $ to throw away. I think that come harvest there won,t be much difrence between them both, i think yours will build into nice fat colas, while i,m expecting to get lots of smaller bud, unless i put the other 600w in. I also hope i,m wrong but i cant see it ? only time will tell. The 1st and 2nd photo,s are decieving imo it looks smaller than 1mtr3. atb TCD
My future method depends on how this crop does with 1 600w ?

"Control tool of course the amount of control YOU! want :) not me or whoever else"
 
forgetiwashere

forgetiwashere

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good eye tcd. the screen if u want to get technical is actually about 100cm x 90 cm so just a touch under 1m x 1m. i built the grow area into a small area beneath my house. so it was governed by the size of the space. i normally just say 1m x 1m because its close enough to not worry about and people get less confused. also i hope your right about the buds getting bigger. that is certainly what i have seen in the past but i have also seen some screens packed tight with monster buds. i guess it comes down to light and strain.

also im only using a 400w cmh bulb in the above area. i have another tent which is 1.2 x 1.2m which i have a 600w hps in but to be honest i just like the smaller one better.
also i spent a lot more money on the hood for the 400w and i get a much better light spread with it. im thinking about buying the same hood for my 600w too.



this one is a little too jam packed for my liking. it looks messy the screen isnt as even but there is a load of bud sites. and as you can see i wasnt as vigilant with the training as i should have been because basically like you said in your earlier post it can become a pain to weave under your screen when they are this full. your constantly having to pull branches down and move them just to fit another one in and it becomes real hard work. im not really into hard work lol
 
forgetiwashere

forgetiwashere

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heres another one i have going. this is my indica screen. i find indicas have minimal stretch and so i dont need a big screen. this one is only about 1 foot x 3 foot. roughly. once again i just built into the space i had available. believe it or not this was started at the same stage as the 1m screen. 4 weeks veg aswell and flipped on the same day also.



with an indica strain like this if i wanted to grow it under the 1m screen i could probably veg for an extra week or 2 and fill the whole screen right up then flip it because of the minimal stretch and i would get a huge yield. but i just prefer to keep my indicas small. like i said before im going to have way too much smoko as it is. i dont need this many plants going at once i just find it hard to only grow one strain at a time lol.

and yes im aware that all these scrogs are far from perfect but i just dont really care. at the end of the day i have smoko and thats all that matters.
 
trichomedome

trichomedome

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There,s a few interesting things forgetiwashere your hood one of the most underated pieces of kit, what type do you use, also the cmh i was trying to find some growers who had used them, do you find a big difrence compared to the metal :) ?m.h asuming you used one previously ?
Here,s a little example of how good a parabolic disperses heat and a magical spread for the money involved £50 the only hood that,s close to it that i,ve seen is the grostar imo ?
It is my hand :) TCD
Oh my skunk is indica dom i hope i get a huge yeild! fingers crossed TCD

Quote " i also hope your right about the buds getting bigger. that is certainly what i have seen in the past but i have also seen some screens packed tight with monster buds. i guess it comes down to light and strain"

The 1st sat strain i grown blue mystic "crap imo" i tied over as norm like you said they like to streach, what i ended up with was aprox 30/35 donky dick colas from 6 plants, I,ve never weighd so i don,t know the total, "one of them was 111grms weighd to get an rough ave" if i could get a sat that i liked enogh i would not hesitate to repeat that process.
 
forgetiwashere

forgetiwashere

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Sativas aren't for everyone I guess. I dont really like being couchlocked so I tend to prefer them. Which is I guess what first got me on to screens I just dont have the room to grow em upwards.

Hahaha I love your reason you edited head up your ars. My mind boggles at what wonderful things might have been written in the original post lol.

U dint have to censor yourself with me anymore tcd I think I get u a bit better now I can take the criticism.

Oh and also I can't remember what hood it is I will snap some pics next time in down there.

And on the cmh the jury is still out. This is my first cmh grow but in feeling pretty happy so far
 
The Dawg

The Dawg

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For Some Reason MISSPHOEBE Its Not Letting Me Post A Reply With A Quote.But Thank You I Think A Well Scrogged Plant Looks Very Sexy.I Did Some Canopy Management This Am Trying To Even Her Out.Peace And Hair Grease :weed:
 
trichomedome

trichomedome

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Decepticon said:
i know woodsman would be proud of this
here is my attempt at an outdoor scrog i got 3 in here

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and here is my blueberry bud

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That will be interesting budy i can,t say i,ve seen an outdoor scrog before, my hat goes of to you atb with it. From what i can see budy woodsman is pretty thin on the ground round here, please you 1st ;) It will be good to see how that comes along. btw blueberry is bad for turning hermie "ladyboy" watch her closely

Deffo misspheobe but what about the eggs :) you could always crop rotate to give the chickens a chance to fertilise the flower bed ;):) TCD

DUDER! don,t sit at the side line bud join in... i,m not looking to dispute with anyone, i may not agree, but that,s forums in fact that,s life. no hard feelings TCD
 
PakaloloHui

PakaloloHui

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Here is an outdoor Scrog. Last year, Garden of Weeden, subcool video.

[video=youtube;hDs2QE9Dzzw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDs2QE9Dzzw[/video]
 
trichomedome

trichomedome

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The garden of weeden ;) i like that budy very cool indeed, i,m going to try an outdoor auto strain crop this summer, that is a u.k summer :cry: TCD
"I am a british subject so i carry the burden off shame, ub40"
FORGETIWASHERE... scroll forward to 9.30 then watch for a min that,s what i pictures your,s doing. atb TCD

I was looking over old posts and come across this
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/470880-like-greenclaw.html#post6364102 HERE!
That used to be my air con unit, incl a fan i,m using an evo fan controler now £200 but tbh they both do the same, i,d love to tell you how much better it is, but i wont kid myself on nor other members. TCD
 
forgetiwashere

forgetiwashere

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heres some shots of the strain im growing.

im not expecting huge colas just big medium dense top knots. probably wont get anything like the main cola probably just get lots of buds like the ones you see in the close up and on the lower branches in the zoomed out pic.

so probably not going to be the best yield but plenty of smoke thats for sure and this strain is supposed to be some serious serous smoko.

heres a quick smoke report by skunkmunkie who is responsible for the above pictures

"The High: Strong, hard hitting and gets to work a soon as exhaled!! Starting with an instant heavey smack to the head, thats both relaxing and stupifying and leaves me all dazed & slieghtly confused too. Time seems to stand still and I am soon lost in my own thoughts, all my worries a distant memory while under the influence of this Bud. Once the eyes get heavey and dry the stone then sets in and the "High" softly works it's way down to your body having an effect all the way to the toes with that relaxing "blanket" feeling taking over too. This is high grade medicince and lasts around 2-3 hours with little tolerence build up over time.
This is not for the fainthearted or first time smoker either as the effect is so fast working, strong and heavey hitting it will almost feel too much for some to handle. If you want power in your flower this is it, high tolerence smokers will love this one. I know I do."
 
trichomedome

trichomedome

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Can you imagine trying to tell some regular shit hash smoker that, the local dealer only gets wet shit bud or a something called soap bar "tcd curses about it" total shit but some peeps do smoke it regularly "a shame for them" anyway like the weed your describing bho oil is the same it,s just to potent/hard hitting for the ave joe, but i lagh to myself at the thought of trying to explain to a soap bar smoker :) TCD
 
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