skunkyhead
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Here's the pic!what is the best way to go? I got plenty of room in all directions
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baggednismo
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depends on if those 2 are the only plants in the scrog or not. if so I wouldnt follow the lines you have set in place, a straight line will be efficient. you want the canopy to be even so the longer it grows the more pinching/topping you will have to do to keep it even. just grow them for another 2 weeks diagonally from where it is then flower. you can fill the screen with just 1 plant but its tough to train and keep a perfect canopy. also you will be in veg for like 2/3 months and thats just not efficient since you have the room to put more
skunkyhead
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cheers bagged! So i should follow the red line? follow directly under light bulb.Only 2 girls caus 1st attempt. Can easisly add a 3 rd but can't add extra light and different strain, I don't want to cramp my girls caus first time on new strain,and now that system is tweaked i noticed awsome growth! 4-5 cm in under 24hrs! lights go up everyday otherwise my girls try to eat my light!
skunkyhead
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can't i fimm? wouldn't that fill up faster/more?
baggednismo
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you can fimm, in fact you should fimm/top/pinch. thats the whole idea to SCROG, make the plants produce more nodal points and expand over a screen. I would pinch your top's after they go through the screen after the first few days of training it to stay @ the screen. This will allow more time for your lower growth to catch up to the screen then you can continue in any means that you wish.
Personally i would top the plants now that they are close *if not going through the screen already* and let there be 4 new tops to train + your lower growth
Personally i would top the plants now that they are close *if not going through the screen already* and let there be 4 new tops to train + your lower growth
Ok, I read through this whole thread, and thank god it's here. I am thinking about a ScrOG because of height limitations with my light. I'll be in a 7'H x 4'W x 2.5'D cabinet with a 400w MH for veg and HPS for flower. I will also have (4) 4' 54w CFL strip lights in the corners of the cab. Oh one last bit of info before I get to the question phase. I will also be using (2) 5 gallon bubbleponics setups.
I understand the whole process/concept pretty well but I had an idea that I hope someone can give me some input on. I'll be growing some Seedsman Seeds WW. I should probably put up the screen at right around 8" - 10" above the bucket, right? Then I just let the plants do their thing. When the highest parts of the plants reach the screen, I just bend them in and out of the screen horizontally until the rest of the plant catches up. At which point, I push them into flower. Now, I don't know how many of you have read Uncle Benny's Topping Technique (good read by the way) but basically the idea is to lest the plant grow to the 5th or 6th node then top the whole thing at the 2nd node. This will give 4 huge colas. Could I do this and let the plant grow into the screen this way? The way I am thinking is that with a little less to have to wait to catch up, this could open up the bottom of the plants and leave a little more spacing between bud sites for more light and airflow, therefore cutting down on the risk of mold issues and giving you less but potentially much larger colas.
What do you guys think?
I understand the whole process/concept pretty well but I had an idea that I hope someone can give me some input on. I'll be growing some Seedsman Seeds WW. I should probably put up the screen at right around 8" - 10" above the bucket, right? Then I just let the plants do their thing. When the highest parts of the plants reach the screen, I just bend them in and out of the screen horizontally until the rest of the plant catches up. At which point, I push them into flower. Now, I don't know how many of you have read Uncle Benny's Topping Technique (good read by the way) but basically the idea is to lest the plant grow to the 5th or 6th node then top the whole thing at the 2nd node. This will give 4 huge colas. Could I do this and let the plant grow into the screen this way? The way I am thinking is that with a little less to have to wait to catch up, this could open up the bottom of the plants and leave a little more spacing between bud sites for more light and airflow, therefore cutting down on the risk of mold issues and giving you less but potentially much larger colas.
What do you guys think?
baggednismo
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read my last post... right above yours...
skunkyhead
Member
i have...... ok got it 
Got a full node through mesh. Gonna fimm her. the last nodes just hit the mesh as well so it has begun!!
Got a full node through mesh. Gonna fimm her. the last nodes just hit the mesh as well so it has begun!!Damn. I some how didn't connect your post with my thought before I put it down. Thanks for the info though. Looks like I owuld have been going in the right direction though.
stonedcold89
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Here are my sweety's!
hey man hows it goin? I was checkin out your pics, and it looks it hasnt been fimmed or anything yet, is that correct? I was just wondering because I start fimming when the plants are still fairly small, and was wondering if theres any advantage to waiting until they hit the screen to start fimming. peace!
skunkyhead
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True. Not yet. But soon.Havn't done so caus don't want to over stress my girls. Alot has changed in last 3 days for my girls. ph'd nuts ,nut temp,nut strenghs,light,lst.
Been told (don't know true/not) better to wait a few days after training head so she gets used to mesh and allows lower growth to catch up.
imho the less stress the better.
just remembered. shouldn't fimm to early caus plant can't handle it. i.e long time to recover=less growths. Been told u should wait till at least 5 nodes b4 fimm.
skunkyhead
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where she's at!
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Boulderheads
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hey skunky... you may want to take the main stalk and snip the top off. That will stop the vertical growth and make all of the other side branches shoot out even faster to fill that screen.
It is up to you.. I had better results topping multiple times rather than just training the main branch. Hope this helps.
It is up to you.. I had better results topping multiple times rather than just training the main branch. Hope this helps.
skunkyhead
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cheers boulder! is there a certain way to top? does it matter how i cut? Thought topping causes 4 main colla's. don't you want more branches to fill more room quicker? more branches more sites.
Hit a cross road here! LOVE sum input! top or fimm or just let her rip?
Hit a cross road here! LOVE sum input! top or fimm or just let her rip?
Boulderheads
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For the most part MJ plants like to grow a main vertical stalk, and a bunch of side branches that are always lagging behind the main stem. By topping that main stem and stopping its vertical growth the plant responds by lotsa side branching. You will see this with any plant that grows the same way. If you take the top out of Pine Tree early on it will focus energy on side branching.
It is up to you. but if your not 12/12 yet I would clip that baby and then veg another 12-14 days and flip ur lights.
Hope this helps
It is up to you. but if your not 12/12 yet I would clip that baby and then veg another 12-14 days and flip ur lights.
Hope this helps
Boulderheads
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Sorry, forgot to answer your question about topping.. look in the growFAQ for tutorials or just search in these forums.. there are lotsa different techniques. Pretty much you just take the upper most node and snip snip.. or I prefer to pinch with my fingers..
baggednismo
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Pinching is a cool technique, havent tried it yet but im going to this next time around.Uncle Bens Topping Technique is just about the best tutorial on doing so. In the fimming thread he posted this pic which is a self explanatory where to cut for topping and fimming
I like to FIM primarily, but will top when one refuses to respond & shoots above everybody else.
D/M WW SScrog.
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D/M WW SScrog.
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cackpircings
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I just bend the girls down at the net I dont ever really top them.
Boulderheads
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It all depends how early you start training your plants.. If you have a lot of growth on your main stalk.. topping or fimming may be very useful, however if you train very early no other adjustments should be needed.