Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Or_Gro

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Have a couple options for doing this. Was wondering what would be most ideal for a rookie DWC. I can grow in soil damnit. Just this water growing learning curve is semi stumping me. But I truly believe you guys aren’t going to let me sink and I appreciate that a lot.
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Here’s what I have to work with. I have to cut that lid to fit something. I’m not hoping to grow a plant. I want to grow a tree. With a trunk not a stalk. So I hope the trunk gets larger than those small netpots. But if it’d be more ideal to start one in a small net pot as pictured, I could always cut it away with a. Knife if need be........ not saying that’s the way to go. Just saying there’s work arounds in theory.

Thanks.
How many plants you plannin for that res?

Normally, i’d say only use 3” cups, cuz they let you get more water under them, but that bigass res with a single plant can tolerate a 5-6” cup’s depth....

You’ll find there is more to making and caring for a big tree than the size of the res...

I menyioned earlier to Clyde, one of my GC buds grew 22+ oz plant in a 3 gal bucket, roots looked like a block of white cheddar.
 

Moabfighter

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Size comes with practice and the application of science vs desire. Trying to stick with vpd is good, but keeping your roots healthy and your plant healthy is key. No funky roots is #1. Be patient is rule #2. The first time home grown watched me defol a plant I thought he was gonna try to strap me to the bed for fear I was killing the plant. OG defols the same. You'll learn. Just watch and breathe and listen :) you in Da Gud Place now lolol
Science vs desire.

That’s an amazing analogy man. About to read the rest of the post. But that sticks with me actually LEARN as opposed to sticking with what I “think is right”, ya know?

Root stuff. If there’s a hundred bloom nutes, there’s a hundred root nutes too. Any I gotta have? With my last run, my hydro guard DID keep my roots very white and lush. I think the PH/attention I gave her was bad.

Also was thinking adding 6-8 components from tap root would help. No bueno eh.... got it.
 

StickyBudHound

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Size comes with practice and the application of science vs desire. Trying to stick with vpd is good, but keeping your roots healthy and your plant healthy is key. No funky roots is #1. Be patient is rule #2. The first time home grown watched me defol a plant I thought he was gonna try to strap me to the bed for fear I was killing the plant. OG defols the same. You'll learn. Just watch and breathe and listen :) you in Da Gud Place now lolol
Truth! I'm still nervous to take as much as you and OG during defol.
 

Or_Gro

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I mean yeah I'm sick but doc thinks it might just be some kinda blockage or something. I'm okay for the time being, just waiting on that so we can see what the dealio is. Thanks for the well wishes and shit, means a lot.

If you guys have ANY kind of questions please feel free to ask. Just don't let them be lazy questions, ok? :D
Ok, can you stop by sometime and clean my dabifier?
 

Or_Gro

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What would you suggest?

Get a taproot from seed and drop it in the hydroton..... or a coco circle rooter thing. Or..:.. buy rockwool?

What is ideal? Everything I do this grow I want to be ideal.

Can I get a PPFD meter, co2, a humidity controller, etc this grow..... probably not.

But I can start my plants with the right products and I can give them the attention they need to survive and hopefully thrive. I don’t have a million dollar setup. I never will. But I want to adapt and become great with what I have.
Seed into water, slightest hint of white comin out of seed drop into rr, when taproog emerges from rr put it on a layer of hydroton in netcup fill in side gap w hydtoton whole thing into res (pH 6.1, water temp 65-70, airtemp in 70s, rh upper 60s liw 70s, about 100-200 ppfd light (get a 8DA85AF6-E6AC-4F11-9B57-186446D4A20B.jpegIf you can affird it, find conversion factor to ppfd for your particular light) run lights 24:0, 20:4, or 18:6...that should do it...
 

Ibn Vapin

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Ok, can you stop by sometime and clean my dabifier?
Bro I got you, it'll take me like ten fucking minutes max no joke. Some 91% isoprop, some fine grade sea salt and shake shake shake senora, shake eet all de time. Earplugs from work in either end(dirty) to keep any leaks(lewd) from happening, then just remove drain and rinse until clean-clean. If my shit is really nasty I'll hold it in the sink and pump straight piping hot water thru it to weaken the heavy shit and push it out down the drain.
 

Ibn Vapin

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Let me tell you man. I’ve grown fastbuds gorilla glue. And now I think this is expert seeds gorilla glue.

They’re two of the best top 5 strains I’ve ever grown. But.....someone got the wrong gorilla glue.

This one is super minty. Fastbuds was the strongest pine smell I ever smelled.
Two different phenos easily explains that away bro. Doesn't mean they got their breeder mixed up.
 

Moabfighter

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You’ll find there is more to making and caring for a big tree than the size of the res...

I menyioned earlier to Clyde, one of my GC buds grew 22+ oz plant in a 3 gal bucket, roots looked like a block of white cheddar.

I didn’t know that. I thought res size was purely the size reasoning......


Only “planning” to do one. I was wanting to put hooks all in the lid for LST stake points. But if I can effectively run two in there without a tangled mess where one isn’t taking more from the other, I’m not opposed v

Maybe stick with one to be safe. You think use that bigger net pot probably?
 

Or_Gro

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Mainlines where it’s at huh. Did it once with a tiny Mephisto autoflower.

It was cute. The idea and point worked VERY well. Just the yield wasn’t amazing. Bet it was way more than had I not though.

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W mainlines think of it as two separate things: a plumbing manifold for big up/down flow and some type of (you choose it) training above. For yield, you’re going for big pipes, flat top.

I’ve found that 8 mains make a big enuff manifold, 2-4 laterals per main coming to top, along w main, gives good trade-off between height and yield for 4 plants in a 4x4.
 

Ibn Vapin

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Really?

I feel semi inadequate to even be talking to you guys lol. I sound like a fool but I promise I’m not. I can learn.
Don't feel like a fool talking to me man. I'm a Marine, everyone knows that they put picture book explanations on our rocket launchers just so we can safely fire them. That's a true fact. You can probably fucking google that shit and see the reality of it. I swear on my brother's grave that any AT4 I've run across during my time in had pictures on it bc jarheads can't fucking read words and make thoughts at the same time lol.
 

StickyBudHound

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Let me tell you man. I’ve grown fastbuds gorilla glue. And now I think this is expert seeds gorilla glue.

They’re two of the best top 5 strains I’ve ever grown. But.....someone got the wrong gorilla glue.

This one is super minty. Fastbuds was the strongest pine smell I ever smelled.
Yeah man, I grew a GG4 last grow. It's my go the fuck to sleep right fucking now bud. :-) Got some really nice buds from that plant. I have quite a few seeds too. Got them from a friend recently. All feminized and photos. Good yielder at 10 zips.
 
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