Examples of GOP Leadership

Roger A. Shrubber

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schuylaar

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Susan Collins: Orderly Transfer of Power 'Essential'
Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, says the Electoral Count Act needs to be overhauled because the orderly transfer of power is “essential.”

Collins, who is leading a bipartisan group of senators committed to reforming the act, made her remarks in a column posted by The New York Times on Friday.

“This 1887 law, vaguely written in the inaccessible language of a different era, was intended to restrain Congress, but in practice it has had the unintended effect of creating ambiguities that could potentially be used to expand the role of Congress and the vice president in ways that are contrary to the Constitution.”

But, despite the law’s flaws, it has not been an issue for more than a hundred years, she noted. That changed after President Joe Biden was elected in 2020.

“President Donald Trump and his allies both exploited the weaknesses of the law and ignored the language of the Constitution,” she said. “Mr. Trump argued that the vice president could overturn the election results. A violent mob temporarily halted the electoral count that would confirm President Biden’s victory.

“Vice President Mike Pence’s courage and integrity on that day cannot be overstated. He stood up to a determined president who relentlessly pressured him to swing the election his way. And he refused to be intimidated by rioters who assaulted police officers, swarmed the Capitol and chanted 'Hang Mike Pence!' As the dangerous mob neared the Senate chambers, the vice president and senators had to be whisked away.

“Finally, senators were told it was safe enough for us to proceed back to the chamber, which all of us were determined to do so that we could resume the counting of the votes."

She added: “That day reminded us that there is nothing more essential to the survival of a democracy than the orderly transfer of power, and there is nothing more essential to the orderly transfer of power than clear rules for effecting it.”

She maintained the Electoral Count Act is ambiguously phrased and must be amended.

“Our group of senators shares a vision of drafting legislation to ensure the integrity of our elections and public confidence in the results,” she said. “We want a bill that will be considered by committees, debated on the Senate floor, garner the support of the Senate’s two leaders and pass the Senate with 60 or more votes.”
..i think he learned his lesson..'
 

schuylaar

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they all seemed very very concerned about states rights, but not about the rights of the people who live in those states...why don't they be honest and tell the truth, that they're very concerned with anything that makes them uncomfortable, and will use any excuse to make others conform to their will...
They're uncomfortable with anything that questions their way of living.
 

printer

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Fox News Backs Down on Hillary Spying Claims
Left-wing media analysts have noted an abrupt change in Fox News coverage of special counsel John Durham's court filing alleging Hillary Clinton campaign ties to "exploiting" access to internet data in "gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump."

Both Mediaite and CNN noted Fox News now gives scant attention to claims Hillary Clinton's campaign "spied" on Trump.

The media critics say Fox's change came after Hillary Clinton's New York State Democratic Convention speech Thursday where she alluded to a potential lawsuit against conservative media, suggesting they had violated a legal standard to prove libel: "actual malice."

Clinton, denouncing the coverage of Durham's Feb. 11 court filing, claimed Fox News was "getting awfully close to actual malice."

Durham's legal filing never accuses Hillary Clinton herself of spying or wiretapping the Trump campaign or the Trump White House.

But the special counsel does make clear her campaign lawyer Michael Sussmannn, who has ties to high-tech firm, sought to monitor the internet traffic of the Trump campaign, Donald Trump's personal residence in Trump Tower, and the White House.

Still, Hillary Clinton's threat of a lawsuit might have effectively chilled media reports on Durham's allegations that her campaign spied on the Trump campaign.

False claims – including those made in the Steele dossier that was partially funded by the DNC and Hillary Clinton's campaign – promoted the idea Trump's campaign had secret ties to Russian agents. These allegations were used as the pretext for an FBI counter-intelligence probe of Trump and his campaign.

Several federal probes, including that of special counsel Robert Mueller, found no evidence Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign.

"Fox leads the charge with accusations against me, counting on their audience to fall for it again," Clinton told New York Democrats in her speech. "And, as an aside, they're getting awfully close to actual malice in their attacks."

Sussmann has moved to dismiss Durham's charges against him, including the charge he lied to the FBI when he approached the bureau to an open a probe on Trump. Sussmann falsely told the FBI he was not working for the Clinton campaign.

Sussmann had indeed been on the payroll of the Clinton campaign.

CNN's far-left media critic Oliver Darcy suggested "it is a strong possibility" that Fox News has been backing down from its Clinton coverage.

Darcy cited Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill who told him: "They went too far with their bulls**t coverage about 'spying' over the last week, so have retreated."

Darcy and CNN led efforts to have President Trump deplatformed from Twitter and have since called for the deplatforming of competing conservative cable channels like Fox News, Newsmax, and OANN.

But Fox News' Sean Hannity briefly broke from the network's silence on the Durham allegation Thursday night after Clinton's speech and Durham's latest motion, as Mediaite noted.

"It's called news," Hannity said. "Hillary, we invite you to bring it on. It's from a legal filing we quoted exactly from the filing that was put in federal court."

The phrase "actual malice" has been in the news because of Sarah Palin's defamation lawsuit against The New York Times, where a federal judge dismissed the case, saying the former Alaska governor had failed to meet the libel standard.
 

hanimmal

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Several federal probes, including that of special counsel Robert Mueller, found no evidence Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign.
lol fucking newsmax.

What would you call the data on American citizens that Trump was given by the RNC being handed over to the Russian military?

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It is just selling more 'cant trust government' trolling. When no, it is you can't trust the propaganda that the channels like Fox, OANN, and Newsmax push.
 

printer

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lol fucking newsmax.

What would you call the data on American citizens that Trump was given by the RNC being handed over to the Russian military?

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It is just selling more 'cant trust government' trolling. When no, it is you can't trust the propaganda that the channels like Fox, OANN, and Newsmax push.
That is just polling data. Not like they were coordinating strategy. Nothing you can convict anyone of.

That is their view on things. Even when they are telling the whole truth their readership complain of them selling out. Funny place Newsmax. At least I have read articles (not written by Newsmax) which I never would have seen other places. Think they post those to rile up their readership. Get them worked up and then they complain and spew stuff in the comment section. And the more times they come back the more NM makes from their advertisers.
 

hanimmal

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That is just polling data. Not like they were coordinating strategy. Nothing you can convict anyone of.
Whoopsie. Trump's campaign manager discussing strategy for winning midwestern state with a Russian spy is not just polling data.

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That is their view on things. Even when they are telling the whole truth their readership complain of them selling out. Funny place Newsmax. At least I have read articles (not written by Newsmax) which I never would have seen other places. Think they post those to rile up their readership. Get them worked up and then they complain and spew stuff in the comment section. And the more times they come back the more NM makes from their advertisers.
Yeah because they are cherry picking propagandist that are trying like hell to hide Republican foreign collusion to win American elections.

I really don't buy that those are not trolls (foreign and domestic) in their comment sections. Sure there is a hefty mix of useful idiots, but ones that are so indistinguishable from paid trolls that it really stops mattering.
 

printer

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Whoopsie. Trump's campaign manager discussing strategy for winning midwestern state with a Russian spy is not just polling data.

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Yeah because they are cherry picking propagandist that are trying like hell to hide Republican foreign collusion to win American elections.

I really don't buy that those are not trolls (foreign and domestic) in their comment sections. Sure there is a hefty mix of useful idiots, but ones that are so indistinguishable from paid trolls that it really stops mattering.
Sure there are trolls there, heck, you can call me a troll. Sometimes you just need to call out shit. Doubt many would be getting paid for it though. I would like to know where to sign up for it.
 

hanimmal

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Sure there are trolls there, heck, you can call me a troll. Sometimes you just need to call out shit. Doubt many would be getting paid for it though. I would like to know where to sign up for it.
Im sure there is some nazi Proud Boy group, or bible camp that you could find.

I doubt that there are many 'people' even posting there for them to not mostly be paid trolls on that comment section.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Sure there are trolls there, heck, you can call me a troll. Sometimes you just need to call out shit. Doubt many would be getting paid for it though. I would like to know where to sign up for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cyber_Command

these guys need to be doing a lot more, we need to be doing some competitive recruiting, and have whole facilities that do nothing but bombard russian news sites and social media sites nonstop with the truth...if the russian people are exposed to the truth, nonstop, maybe they'll do our work for us?
tell them about all the stolen money, while they're barely earning enough to survive... the misinformation campaigns into other countries elections, all engineered to keep pootin' and his oligarchs in power, and in money...how those other people aren't a threat to russia, they're peaceful people who just want the russians to fuck off and leave them alone, and that their only real offense is possesing something pootin' wants as his own...

we could also be preparing small powerful portable radio stations, with some hardened security, to distribute to allies that are under constant russian cyber attacks, to help fight back the disheartening lies and propaganda russia pumps at them nonstop...

the real solution to this problem would be a coordinated attack on putin himself, and all his oligarchs at the same time, cut the head off of the russian bear, and let it trash itself to death, it might be bloody, but it would be over quickly
 
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