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EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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I was being facetious.
He said he wouldn't run independent before many of the facts presented themselves.
New information changes things.
You can still go on believing the world is flat if you wish..
Fogdog
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Now, now, a small difference is not something to go ballistic over. I think Bernie won't run as an indie. Just my opinion, which matters not.
But don't you need everyone to vote before deciding who has the popular vote?
Bernie wins nationally because the polling consists of ALL not just some voters.
Don't underestimate the millions of independents who weren't allowed to vote..we're just waiting for the general to roll around.
Fogdog
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Well, in primaries, or at least closed ones like in Oregon, the popular vote for the democratic party candidate consists only of those who registered as democrats before April 26. We don't even have a popular vote for president in the fall. Its all done by the electoral college, which is decided by which candidate wins the most votes by state. As shown in 2000, the president-elect doesn't need a majority in any state or even to win the most popular votes nationwide.
Not that I like all that, but those are the rules until we change them.
Why doesn't Florida have vote by mail?
londonfog
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Sky go take the time to do the math. You making this harder on yourself. DAMN YOU BERNIE for turning a good woman bad and crazy.
Padawanbater2
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"But Bernie's gonna take away my guns!"
Corso312
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I don't think you are being sarcastic..but that's exactly what all these hoops are for.. To discourage people from voting..it should be easy as hell and quick to cast a vote every 4 years.
Flaming Pie
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Should only need a drivers license. That is proof of identity.
ttystikk
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I wasn't being at all sarcastic; I was labeling the practice for what it is.
And it should be quick and easy to cast a vote during EVERY ballot, because some state and local initiatives can come up as often as every six months.
ttystikk
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Why? Nowhere in the constitution does it say citizen ID is required. Should be able to match against registered voter lists, just like they did when I was younger.
Flaming Pie
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My bad. Just thinking the barcode on it would make it super easy. Forgot about lots of people not having licenses. Lol
I could of sworn i had to show id to vote in 2012tho.
Corso312
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ttystikk
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Requiring a state ID is another subtle form of voter suppression; those who don't have them are much more likely to be poor, minority- and vote Democratic.
Kasuti
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I disagree. Everybody should have at least a state ID. It's not that hard to get one and I'm sure everyone can find the time to go to dmv and get one.
ttystikk
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Show me where it says in the US Constitution that I have to have an ID to vote, and I'll go along with it.
There's good reason ID requirements aren't in there. It's to keep those who would buy power and influence from using them to create rules and regulations to stifle a citizen's right to vote... just like which is in fact happening left and right around the country.
WTF is it with right wingers who wrap themselves in constitutional rights- and then try to revise the document, anyway? I'll bet you haven't even read the whole thing, or if you have it was back in middle school. That's actually most Americans, so it's a fairly safe bet.
Ace Yonder
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There are so many things in this country that require ID, it boggles my mind that providing identification is a serious hurdle for anyone. It seems like it would actually be much much harder to live life in America without ID than it would be to acquire one. I just can't think of any valid reason to not have ID.