EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

[ttystikk]

Cmon. You sore losers just cant stand it. Admit it. You backed a LOSER and one HORRIBLE candidate. With the way its set up...Sanders had no chance of running against Trump in the general. The whole system was NOT going to let him do it. From you fools...to the media..to the DNC. YOU ALL PUT YOUR FULL SUPPORT BEHIND A BAD CANDIDATE AND SHE ACTUALLY LOST TO A FUKING CLOWN. Thats the truth. Bottom line end of story. Dont you think (clearly for one second) that if it were any one other than Clinton...say Biden?...that Trump would of been CRUSHED??? CMON.

In case you haven't noticed, they've made an official practice of shooting the messenger on this. The question to ask is why? The answer, of course, is money. Too many people would rather keep taking their cut than work to change the situation, even if it means continuing to lose.

 

[Fogdog]

But she still got fired for an ethical violation, and none of your pathetic excuses change that- or the fact that such unethical people are entirely good enough to serve in the DNC, you establishment shill.

How about Feinstein?

Oh and please, nothing from that Iranian news outlet that you quoted earlier, LOL

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/04/10/517481/Why-Syrian-false-flag-attack-was-perpetrated

But this isn't the first time I've shown you the truth. You just don't care about facts, do you, fraud boy?

So which is it? Elitist shill or would-be social climbing liar? The World Wonders.

@travisw killed it when he said:

presstv?

Nice source as usual. If you don't trust your own government, why trust the Iranian government? Because that's who runs presstv.

You get things so wrong you are wrong about the things you are wrong about.

Thanks, Travis for that

 

[UncleBuck]

travisw cuts deep.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Oh how awful.

Yeah, it is pretty awful when democracy is subverted. I agree

You believe Clinton campaign cheated.

It has nothing to do with belief. Donna Brazile admitted she cheated while working for CNN. She fed a direct debate question to the Clinton campaign. That's cheating. Deny it all you want. The evidence is available to anyone who chooses not to bury their head in the sand

Your claim of admission is overblown though. Sanders campaign was caught red-handed cheating. Neither made any difference in the result.

How was the Sanders campaign "caught red handed cheating"?

Whether or not Brazile leaking direct debate questions to Clinton altered the outcome of the election is irrelevant to the fact that it happened. You are trying to hold two completely separate positions; they didn't cheat! & yeah, so what if they cheated, it didn't make a difference!

In the former, you deny cheating ever took place at all, in the latter you attempt to justify the cheating you know took place by saying that it didn't make a difference anyway. You're an idiot, you know it happened

 

[Fogdog]

Yeah, it is pretty awful when democracy is subverted. I agree

It has nothing to do with belief. Donna Brazile admitted she cheated while working for CNN. She fed a direct debate question to the Clinton campaign. That's cheating. Deny it all you want. The evidence is available to anyone who chooses not to bury their head in the sand

How was the Sanders campaign "caught red handed cheating"?

Whether or not Brazile leaked direct debate questions to Clinton altered the outcome of the election is irrelevant to the fact that it happened. You are trying to hold two completely separate positions; they didn't cheat! & yeah, so what if they cheated, it didn't make a difference!

In the former, you deny cheating ever took place at all, in the latter you attempt to justify the cheating you know took place by saying that it didn't make a difference anyway. You're an idiot, you know it happened

Convenient of you to forget that Sanders campaign hacked into Clinton's files at the DNC. Of course it was all just innocent fun.

Brazille. Did she collude with Clinton's campaign or do it all by herself? Did they use the leaked questions? I haven't seen anything to indicate they did, which is why I question your claim that Clinton's campaign cheated. Where's the proof? There is no admission by Clinton or her campaign, that's a fact.

Of course it's important whether or not Brazille's actions affected the election. You bring it up to taint the election and so it's reasonable to ask if your claim is valid. It is not. Unless that is you say four million people were influenced to switch their vote. In which case, I have some follow up questions about your feelings of white supremacy.

 

[ttystikk]

Just playing around with the idea.

You buy into conspiracy theories too easily. Like the Sarin false flag one this year LOL.

So then tell me exactly what has this dastardly Feinstein done. Not your internet musings or fake news blogs but some real underhanded deed that can be found on multiple sources.

Sooooo any shred of supporting evidence?

Why would Assad use chemical weapons when he's winning?

Why might the rebels use them when they're losing- and then blame the other side? Because they were desperately trying to get America to join the fight on their side. And it worked.

Do try to think before you type.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Convenient of you to forget that Sanders campaign hacked into Clinton's files at the DNC. Of course it was all just innocent fun.

Source?

Brazille. Did she collude with Clinton's campaign or do it all by herself?

From: Jennifer Palmieri (Director of communications for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign)
To: Donna Brazile

Subject: Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance

Hi. Yes, it is one she gets asked about. Not everyone likes her answer
but can share it.

Betsaida - can you send her answer on death penalty?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Donna Brazile <donna@brazileassociates.com>
wrote:

Here's one that worries me about HRC.

DEATH PENALTY

19 states and the District of Columbia have banned the death penalty. 31
states, including Ohio, still have the death penalty. According to the
National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty, since 1973, 156 people
have been on death row and later set free. Since 1976, 1,414 people have
been executed in the U.S. That’s 11% of Americans who were sentenced to
die, but later exonerated and freed. Should Ohio and the 30 other states
join the current list and abolish the death penalty?

And here is the exact same sentiment of that question being asked by Ricky Jackson, in Michigan, during the town hall. His question is regarding the innocent people sitting on death row;

Did they use the leaked questions? I haven't seen anything to indicate they did, which is why I question your claim that Clinton's campaign cheated. Where's the proof? There is no admission by Clinton or her campaign, that's a fact.

The proof is posted above. Brazile knew the question regarding capital punishment would come up by way of her position at CNN, she knew Clinton was weak on her answer so she fed Palmieri the exact question Clinton would be asked during the debate. Here's what Jake Tapper, Brazile's colleague at CNN had to say about her conduct in this instance;

He makes it pretty clear...

Of course it's important whether or not Brazille's actions affected the election.

Brazile's actions alone didn't affect the outcome of the election, nobody is arguing that. The argument is about whether or not the primary election was held fairly. Brazile admitting she cheated outright proves that it was not. You simply cannot deny that in light of the evidence. She confessed to it. What, are you going to claim she was lying about cheating?

 

[Fogdog]

Source?

From: Jennifer Palmieri (Director of communications for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign)
To: Donna Brazile

Subject: Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance

Hi. Yes, it is one she gets asked about. Not everyone likes her answer
but can share it.

Betsaida - can you send her answer on death penalty?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Donna Brazile <donna@brazileassociates.com>
wrote:

Here's one that worries me about HRC.

DEATH PENALTY

19 states and the District of Columbia have banned the death penalty. 31
states, including Ohio, still have the death penalty. According to the
National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty, since 1973, 156 people
have been on death row and later set free. Since 1976, 1,414 people have
been executed in the U.S. That’s 11% of Americans who were sentenced to
die, but later exonerated and freed. Should Ohio and the 30 other states
join the current list and abolish the death penalty?

And here is the exact same sentiment of that question being asked by Ricky Jackson, in Michigan, during the town hall. His question is regarding the innocent people sitting on death row;

The proof is posted above. Brazile knew the question regarding capital punishment would come up by way of her position at CNN, she knew Clinton was weak on her answer so she fed Palmieri the exact question Clinton would be asked during the debate. Here's what Jake Tapper, Brazile's colleague at CNN had to say about her conduct in this instance;

He makes it pretty clear...

Brazile's actions alone didn't affect the outcome of the election, nobody is arguing that. The argument is about whether or not the primary election was held fairly. Brazile admitting she cheated outright proves that it was not. You simply cannot deny that in light of the evidence. She confessed to it. What, are you going to claim she was lying about cheating?

I still don't see any direct statement of admission that you earlier cliamed had been made. That was a canned response that Clinton had regarding the death penalty. Really, man, do you think Sanders lost because of this? That's such a weak argument it makes me laugh at you.

I;ll never waste my time on a video posted by you. So, just exxxx that one out.

in the end, Sanders lost because he failed to get the black and Hispanic vote. Are you claimng that black and Hispanic voters were more susceptible to this one leaked question than white people? Fuck an A man, that's totally saying black people are more gullible than whites. Is that what you claim?

 

[Fogdog]

Sooooo any shred of supporting evidence?

Why would Assad use chemical weapons when he's winning?

Why might the rebels use them when they're losing- and then blame the other side? Because they were desperately trying to get America to join the fight on their side. And it worked.

Do try to think before you type.

Umm, the claim is yours. I'm not disputing the official story, you are. Your source is the Iranian propaganda site. What evidence?

Ask Assad why he did this. Unlike you, I don't claim to be able to read minds from a distance. LOL, your only "sources" are RT and Iranian propaganda. Sorry, man, that's just not valid. Well, not sorry.

Now, on to Feinstein. What corruption claims are you making that actually fit the definition of corruption?,Please don't quote RT.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I still don't see any direct statement of admission that you earlier cliamed had been made.

"sending those emails was a mistake I will forever regret.”

That was a canned response that Clinton had regarding the death penalty.

Then why did Brazile feel the need to send the exact question she knew would be asked during the town hall in Michigan to the director of communications for Hillary Clinton's campaign? If it was a "canned response", why did Brazile specifically highlight this questions and tell Palmieri

"Here's one that worries me about HRC.

DEATH PENALTY"?

Seems awfully specific to be a "canned response"...

 

[Fogdog]

"sending those emails was a mistake I will forever regret.”

Then why did Brazile feel the need to send the exact question she knew would be asked during the town hall in Michigan to the director of communications for Hillary Clinton's campaign? If it was a "canned response", why did Brazile specifically highlight this questions and tell Palmieri

"Here's one that worries me about HRC.

DEATH PENALTY"?

Seems awfully specific to be a "canned response"...

Are you really saying the election turned on that response?

If you want to argue policy, I'm down for that, but the thread of your objection is leaked question turned the primary and tainted Hillary's win. Up to now, you haven't said anything about the policy. Are you claiming that black people voted in nearly total numbers for Clinton because of the debate question?.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Are you really saying the election turned on that response?

Brazile's actions alone didn't affect the outcome of the election, nobody is arguing that.

If you want to argue policy, I'm down for that, but the thread of your objection is leaked question turned the primary and tainted Hillary's win.

No it isn't. I just said it isn't. My contention is that the primary was not held fairly, as you claim it was. Brazile fed the Clinton campaign a direct question. That automatically renders the town hall/debate, unfair. Would it be fair if the Sanders campaign was fed direct debate questions against Clinton? Of course not, and you bet your ass I'd have something to say about it, then, too. Why is it so difficult for you to admit Brazile helped the Clinton campaign cheat in this instance when she already admitted it herself?

 

[ttystikk]

Umm, the claim is yours. I'm not disputing the official story, you are. Your source is the Iranian propaganda site. What evidence?

Ask Assad why he did this. Unlike you, I don't claim to be able to read minds from a distance. LOL, your only "sources" are RT and Iranian propaganda. Sorry, man, that's just not valid. Well, not sorry.

Now, on to Feinstein. What corruption claims are you making that actually fit the definition of corruption?,Please don't quote RT.

Ah, so you've already decided to take on the role of Chief Source Censor. Fuck your 'acceptable sources', I say the truth is the truth, no matter where it gets posted.

You're on the wrong side of a very slippery slope.

The truth is that people on the ground complained of acrid, bleach smells. That's chlorine from stores in the building that was hit. Sarin is odorless.

Now start using your head or forever remain benighted.

 

[schuylaar]

Oh how awful. You believe Clinton campaign cheated. Your claim of admission is overblown though. Sanders campaign was caught red-handed cheating. Neither made any difference in the result.

citation?

 

[schuylaar]

I'm beginning to think that some of my bias against the crap that padaskystikk keep layering onto this site is my perspective of living on the west coast where we didn't have egregious Democratic cronyism and corruption that the east coast and industrial lakes region experienced in the mid-late 1900's. Nearly all the kinds of scandals you mention are of a type that I associate with Republicans. Democrats in my state have pretty much been clean.

The south, on the other hand is conservative, corrupt as all hell and has been in Republican control for a generation, which kind of disproves this line of thought.

Republicans who are truly evil are now running things. I don't know if we've hit bottom yet and are ready to take steps to recovery.

I still think the country as a whole is more conservative than Sanders supporters acknowledge. I don't see any recognition of this among your faction.

the dems (establshment) woke up to the gravy train late in the game- can you blame them for wanting their 'fair share'?

they used to be for 'we the people'..a great name for a group; 'progressives' works too..i take that over justice dems. sorry @Padawanbater2 .

 

[Fogdog]

No it isn't. I just said it isn't. My contention is that the primary was not held fairly, as you claim it was. Brazile fed the Clinton campaign a direct question. That automatically renders the town hall/debate, unfair. Would it be fair if the Sanders campaign was fed direct debate questions against Clinton? Of course not, and you bet your ass I'd have something to say about it, then, too. Why is it so difficult for you to admit Brazile helped the Clinton campaign cheat in this instance when she already admitted it herself?

So you are just crying unfair. OK. I really don't think the one leaked debate question helped Clinton at all. In fact it's given grist for crybabies which is irritating if not harmful. I don't think Brazille should have done it either. It was really dumb of B to do because it's such an obvious question and Clinton would have prepared for it anyway. In the light of everything that happened during the election this is really insignificant. I also see nothing to bolster your claim that Clinton consprired to get it.

Now then, what about Sanders campaign's hacking DNC computers. Unlike you, I'm not claiming Sanders sanctioned it, but his campaign materially benefited from it. That's unfair. I don't really care that it happened either, I'm just raising this point to say that shit happens in big money elections with lots of people working hard to get their person elected.

 

[Fogdog]

the dems (establshment) woke up to the gravy train late in the game- can you blame them for wanting their 'fair share'?

they used to be for 'we the people'..a great name for a group; 'progressives' works too..i take that over justice dems. sorry @Padawanbater2 .

I'm referring to the Democratic political machines behind crony governments and favoritism in the mid-late1900's . Mayor Daly, for instance. There was collusion between Unions, Mafia and New York City government. East coast union leadership was pretty corrupt too. These acts left a legacy and still taint the Democratic Party and unions for some people. I'm just saying there is a real difference in the history of politics on the two coasts. You see corruption everywhere and I don't. I'm playing with the idea that I'm biased because of where I grew up. Relax, it's just a thought experiment. It's drawing some fire and I'm not only ok with that, I'm seeking it to test the idea.

.

 

[Fogdog]

citation?

google it.

 

[UncleBuck]

Source?

From: Jennifer Palmieri (Director of communications for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign)
To: Donna Brazile

Subject: Re: From time to time I get the questions in advance

Hi. Yes, it is one she gets asked about. Not everyone likes her answer
but can share it.

Betsaida - can you send her answer on death penalty?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Donna Brazile <donna@brazileassociates.com>
wrote:

Here's one that worries me about HRC.

DEATH PENALTY

19 states and the District of Columbia have banned the death penalty. 31
states, including Ohio, still have the death penalty. According to the
National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty, since 1973, 156 people
have been on death row and later set free. Since 1976, 1,414 people have
been executed in the U.S. That’s 11% of Americans who were sentenced to
die, but later exonerated and freed. Should Ohio and the 30 other states
join the current list and abolish the death penalty?

And here is the exact same sentiment of that question being asked by Ricky Jackson, in Michigan, during the town hall. His question is regarding the innocent people sitting on death row;

The proof is posted above. Brazile knew the question regarding capital punishment would come up by way of her position at CNN, she knew Clinton was weak on her answer so she fed Palmieri the exact question Clinton would be asked during the debate. Here's what Jake Tapper, Brazile's colleague at CNN had to say about her conduct in this instance;

He makes it pretty clear...

Brazile's actions alone didn't affect the outcome of the election, nobody is arguing that. The argument is about whether or not the primary election was held fairly. Brazile admitting she cheated outright proves that it was not. You simply cannot deny that in light of the evidence. She confessed to it. What, are you going to claim she was lying about cheating?

your "evidence" is unverifiable russian propaganda, retard.

 

[Fogdog]

Ah, so you've already decided to take on the role of Chief Source Censor. Fuck your 'acceptable sources', I say the truth is the truth, no matter where it gets posted.

You're on the wrong side of a very slippery slope.

The truth is that people on the ground complained of acrid, bleach smells. That's chlorine from stores in the building that was hit. Sarin is odorless.

Now start using your head or forever remain benighted.

LOL

Get your news from zerohedge or Breitbart for all I care, it's just going to make you look more foolish. If you want to be believed, cite credible sources, not stuff from holocaust deniers.